various 'schools' of thought in Islam

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Re: various ‘schools’ of thought in Islam

@psyah

Peace vroom

Then make it correctly … Against which of the points in Aqeedah At-Tahawiya do you deem kufr on Deobandis? Number of the aqeedah point required please … If you wish to use another aqeedah book then please provide the reference and the 'ijma position on it, not singular opinions … I want one point only and we can deal with it one at a time - inshaAllah you will see that there is little to no basis for takfir on the matters that you state. However, I agree with many of your points and I have accepted them - but I did it without doing takfir on our Muslim brothers.

You may use a Barelvi source to prove your point also … but on the condition that it is not an interpolation or interpretation unique to Barelvis - you need to show that such interpretations have widespread or 'aam understandings among the Hanafi ulema of other places … this is not an easy task I understand … but this is my requirement to accept your position on Deobandis.

Now the first point you can help me out on is the correct manner in doing takfir:

I think it should be avoided and only on clear disbelief should it be done:
These are points in the Aqeedah At-Tahawiya - the commentary is by Shaykh Muhammad bin Yahya Al-Ninowy (A famous Sufi scholar - who is one of our teachers in tariqah also)

***107 – We lean to validate doing the prayer behind any of the people of the qiblah (Muslims) whether pious or sinful, and doing the funeral prayer over any of them when they die.

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108 – We do not declare anyone of them will categorically go to either paradise or Hellfire, and we do not accuse any of them of blasphemy (kufr), disbelief (associating anything with Allah), or hypocrisy (nifaaq), as long as they have not openly demonstrated any of those things. We leave their hidden characters to Allah Ta’ala.

Aqeedah Tahawiyyah Text | TAWHEED

Statement by Sufi scholar GF Haddad - no endorsement of takfir on Sh. Gangohi
Takfir of Deobandi Scholar

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You are making too much of aqeedah at-Tahawawi. This is a simple text that all schools claim to adhere to. Has not stopped deobandi claims on shirk and kufr. Has not stopped takfir in the past, nor is there Taqlid in Aqeedah

Taqlid is in Fiqh only, not aqeedah. Aqeedah must be like The Prophets SallAllahu Alaihi wa Ahlihi wa Sallam.

So would you like to judge deobandis on on At-Tahawi text or Islamic Aqeedah? If takfir was as simple as Tahawi text we wouldn’t need anyone to claim someone is kaffir or not kaffir

I’ll comment on gf haddad later, many people are no longer endorsing the takfir. gf haddad is actually a follower of the deobandi elders and vouches for them as embassadors of piety which is in direct contradiction with our belief