various 'schools' of thought in Islam

[Sa1eem]

Re: various ‘schools’ of thought in Islam

@psyah

Peace Sa1eem brother

It is all well and good that you know “your” aqeedah better than me … but the problem is you are not referring to your “Ahl-us-Sunnah - Barelvi” books of aqeedah - instead you have given me your own ijtihad on the matter by presenting me the verses. As far as I know the Barelvis I know accept Aqeedah At-Tahawiya like I do and this is what is states in there:

63 – He is clear of being attributed with having limits, nor ends, nor having parts, nor organs, nor limbs. Nor is He contained by the six directions as all created things are

Explanation:
This is clear in stating the Muslim’s belief that unites of measurements cannot apply to Him, whether it is distance, time or otherwise. No ends, no restrictions, no confinement in space or place, no organs, no parts, no limbs, nor do the six directions apply to Him. The six directions are above, below, front, back, right and left. All these things are a creation of Allah, and a creation cannot be an attribute to The Creator. That would mean that The Creator and the creation are equal in that attribute which contradict the Qur’an, Sunnah, the sound intellect, and the meaning of God.

Explanation by Shaykh Al-Ninowy

*Please read my last post again. *

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**63 – He is clear of being attributed with having limits, nor ends, nor having parts, nor organs, nor limbs. Nor is He contained by the six directions as all created things are

So, if Allah has no limits, no ends, neither he is contained by any direction (as mentioned above)… than it is clear that … Allah engulfs everything he created in all directions .. as no direction or space can contain him … that means Allah is everywhere, as being or thing that is not present everywhere is contained by direction and space to exist at a place somewhere … so how can it is possible that Allah is not everywhere and would be contained somewhere in any direction?

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Actually, those who give direction to Allah, contains Allah in that direction, and those who give space (Allah is somewhere and not everywhere) contains Allah in space. In both cases, they also give perimeter to Allah … that means outer boundary or body of some sort, as such body with perimeter is needed for a being to have direction and place in space.

Those who have no direction nor any space is containing them, they are everywhere, and that being is only one, that is Allah, not contained by any direction or space … the one whose existence has no ends in time, space or distance. Actually, they are beyond direction or place … as they are beyond time, space and distance.****
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