various 'schools' of thought in Islam

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Re: various ‘schools’ of thought in Islam

@vroom

Actually no. The term barelvi is not even accepted for this point. It has mainly been used by opponents to single out Imam Ahmad Raza Khan as being founder but like everything else our history is older. Not all of Imam Raza Khan’s positions are taken by those termed as Barelvi. The sufis still dance, the chistis still use music, women still visit Mazaars. So Imam Raza Khan is just a scholar within a long line of people considered as Mujadid. And it this point Imam Raza Khan was the or has become the standard bearer for the fatwa of kufr on deobandi akabir.

The fatwa of kufr on deobandi elders is not a start point for us. It is an incident

We have benefited from Imam Raza Khans other works more then this for example His salat o salam after Jumaah. Something which we regard in the same category as Qasida Burdah

With regards to deobandi elders he said what others did, but was more comprehensive and this is the reason His name stands out, because He is taken as important. We produced someone we can call Mujadid. SubhanAllah

He took on batil, and this is a hallmark of Mujadid according to Moulana Asrar Rashid

So you call one set wahabis and not the deobandis as wahabis. The deobandi accepted the wahabi label for themselves. and where their concepts meet thats what we call wahabis.
And you say these ahul bidah share some concepts and started at a similar time, ok I’ll accept that and call both of them as wahabis. By the way its not so important for me to call deobandis as wahabis. They have alot of similarity.

you are a star!
Yes they need to remove these concepts and these concepts were why they changed in the first place. Need to get rid of deviance like this

An admission to Ahlus Sunnah [barelvi] would be nice too.

The truth is you do not represent deobandis, and they would not like you commenting against their aqaid and elders like this

Good for you
If you are trying to say i should do the same, erm no thank you. I have my reasons. Some concepts land a person clearly outside of Islam and some positions are not from the Ahlus Sunnah. Where there is benefit i will mention these according to my ability and at my own risk.

What an Honor. May Allah Subhanahu wa Ta’ala protect him

I guess I can live with that inshaAllah …

Incidentally my position comes from Shaykh Hamza Yusuf and Shaykh Abdal Hakim Murad and my own Shaykh regarding laypersons not demonising others and not getting in to debates … and I believe they are more qualified than me and many others as well.

Your last line …
Ameen … And May Allah (SWT) grant us all success in this life and the Hereafter.