bullshyt,.. FATA was never part of Pakistan yeh in the books my ass .. if FATA was under government control .. wtf 140000 soldiers are doing their - shyting so we can have better soil ?
Govt/army's mis-steps can't be counted towards this claim. You need to learn a lot as well as not ignore many other factors before making such a claim.
crickplaya does matter he is in Canada and Faisal was in US.. coincidence? remember: sleeper cells ?
Nope, no coincidence. There are thousands of Americans who are against US presence in Afghanistan or Iraq, are they part of the sleeper cells too? Stop becoming a Fox news follower.
whoever they agents are mostly found with Pakistan, India, China, Iran, Saudi, Afghani, US, European's ..etc..etc
rest of the population can't afford !
Nope, either you really are total ignorant or you are playing one just to make a useless point.
Govt/army's mis-steps can't be counted towards this claim. You need to learn a lot as well as not ignore many other factors before making such a claim.
mis-steps..ahan.. so lets go back 30 years.. Pakistan role in Afghan war/jihad was wrong then ?
Nope, no coincidence. There are thousands of Americans who are against US presence in Afghanistan or Iraq,** are they part of the sleeper cells too**? Stop becoming a Fox news follower.
ideology !
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Nope, either you really are total ignorant or you are playing one just to make a useless point.
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already gave the answer, now lets move on shall we?
mis-steps..ahan.. so lets go back 30 years.. Pakistan role in Afghan war/jihad was wrong then ?
Yes, it was, anymore questions? and the mis-steps doesn't really go back to 30 years, every action taken afterwards has been a 'mis-step'.
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^perfecto. please put that into e-jihadies around yourself, i am also trying my best !
ideology !
So lets stop accusing people of being part of sleeper cell.
already gave the answer, now lets move on shall we?
Nope, you are just deflecting in ignorant way. You are still denying that the passport they would get 'officially' would be Pakistani.
So lets stop accusing people of being part of sleeper cell.
Nope, you are just deflecting in ignorant way. You are still denying that the passport they would get 'officially' would be Pakistani.
yup "offically" or as "in the books" ..
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Aah
Farangi Teri Topon main keeray parain-
فرنگی تیری توپوں میں کیرے پڑیں
So who exactly is allowing drone attacks in Pakistan? Isn't it the great Armed Froces of Pakistan?
Please get over this emotional drama. Pak Army isn't going to do anything. More than half of our country is sold out. The sooner we accept it, the better. For the sake of few $$s, jets & other so called 'advanced weapons' our country is sold out to US, including our great army ofcourse. Thank's to Sir Musharraf and Gen Kayani along with Beghairat Zardari are keeping up the good work.
If tomorrow US decides to bomb FATA off, it will do it regardless of what Pak Army thinks or does. US wouldn't give a sh**. The reality is, no matter how many times we deny it, our country is sold out and we are surviving on aid & bheek from IMF and US. How sad!
Zardari is allowing it, after all he has to pay back for being brought into power.No, its not the great Armed Forces of Pakistan. PAF chief a long time back gave a statement that if he was allowed, he would not let drones enter Pakistan.
Its true, more than half of the country is sold out especially the ruling powers and Army is not ruling anymore. Kiyani made it clear in 2008 that Army will not have anything to do with Politics and he stands on it still. The decision powers are Zardari and Gillani.
Zardari is allowing it, after all he has to pay back for being brought into power.No, its not the great Armed Forces of Pakistan. PAF chief a long time back gave a statement that if he was allowed, he would not let drones enter Pakistan.
Its true, more than half of the country is sold out especially the ruling powers and Army is not ruling anymore. Kiyani made it clear in 2008 that Army will not have anything to do with Politics and he stands on it still. The decision powers are Zardari and Gillani.
What nonsense.
Drone strikes have been going one long before Zardari was in govt.
Everybody knows the big decisions in the country are made by the Army, whether there is an elected govt or not.
Zardari is allowing it, after all he has to pay back for being brought into power.No, its not the great Armed Forces of Pakistan. PAF chief a long time back gave a statement that if he was allowed, he would not let drones enter Pakistan.
Its true, more than half of the country is sold out especially the ruling powers and Army is not ruling anymore. Kiyani made it clear in 2008 that Army will not have anything to do with Politics and he stands on it still. The decision powers are Zardari and Gillani.
Yaar please spare me this BS. Why do Pakistani love to defend this beghairat Army fully knowing what they are upto? Huh ?
Zardari is allowing drone attacks? What was Musharaf doing when he was in power? Few days ago I heard Sir Kayani Sahab have agreed to start an operation in NW soon.....there goes our great armed forces!
These people, inc army ofcourse, are sucking up to US. And you know for what? For few billion $$$s, F-16s (which we are going to use on our own people) and few other 'latest weapons' to apparently fight India. But i assure these very same weapons will be used on our own people by The Armed Forces of Pakistan. These lanti Genreals have killed thousands of our own people in the past 8 years just to please Uncle Sam and get some bheek. We are truly sold out! Our own Army has probably killed more Pakistanis than the Indian Army. No wonder why we are in this mess today.
Please don't get emotional. Face the reality. Zardari is merely a puppet, protected by US and our own Army!
What nonsense.
Drone strikes have been going one long before Zardari was in govt.
Everybody knows the big decisions in the country are made by the Army, whether there is an elected govt or not.
Yes when one is fed by media, such things seem nonsense.
The decision was not made by the army but by Musharraf, Army was headed by General Kiyani and NOT Musharraf. and if Zardari and Co. are so sincere towards the country then drone attacks should stop.
No, not every big decision is made by the Army and this surely is nonsense.
Yaar please spare me this BS. Why do Pakistani love to defend this beghairat Army fully knowing what they are upto? Huh ?
Zardari is allowing drone attacks? What was Musharaf doing when he was in power? Few days ago I heard Sir Kayani Sahab have agreed to start an operation in NW soon.....there goes our great armed forces!
These people, inc army ofcourse, are sucking up to US. And you know for what? For few billion $$$s, F-16s (which we are going to use on our own people) and few other 'latest weapons' to apparently fight India. But i assure these very same weapons will be used on our own people by The Armed Forces of Pakistan. These lanti Genreals have killed thousands of our own people in the past 8 years just to please Uncle Sam and get some bheek. We are truly sold out! Our own Army has probably killed more Pakistanis than the Indian Army. No wonder why we are in this mess today.
Please don't get emotional. Face the reality. Zardari is merely a puppet, protected by US and our own Army!
Obviously, its BS when all u have been fed is , is by the media only.
Pakistanis love to defend this Army because, its due to this Army, Pakistan has not become a part of India. and shut ur hole, coz if u know what Army has been upto and how many sacrfices have been made so far by the Army u wouldnt start this BS in the first place.
Zardari is allowing drone attacks, thats true and i dont deny that Musharraf allowed it and he paid the price for it, he was taken off from the power of COAS and a new COAS was made. GHQ was not happy with many decisions that Musharraf made and thats another reason GHQ didnt support him in his final stages and didnt take steps to make his tenure longer.
The story of F-16's is different from that of what we are discussing here. but newer F-16's and F-16 MLU is a stop gap measure till JF-17's are inducted in full numbers. PAF evaluated better options also Rafale and EF2000 even, but the package for upgrading the 30 odd old F-16's was found to be most economical and was made part of the aid plan. Google the F-16 aid plan for details.
Use of F-16 on own people is also a media hype. There was only one misled strike recently that caused civilian casualities.
Most people here cant differentiate between TTP and Afghani Taliban. The weapons stock being used by the Armed Forces in FATA is the 80's era old and almost outdated ammunition thats being used up to make up space for new weaponary.
I dont think i seem emotional from any of my statements, but ur post is like ur sitting on boiling water.and most of ur post is of a brainwashed media victim.
Zardari is surely an american puppet but not protected by the Army in the way u take it.
And during Musharraf’s 8 years was it Pakistan doing the drone attacks on US? 
GHQ was not happy with many decisions that Musharraf made and thats another reason GHQ didnt support him in his final stages and didnt take steps to make his tenure longer..
Who is the GHQ to decide who controls the country? Pakistan is not GHQ's playground. Pakistan belongs to the civilians, and our represented head is elected, not picked by the GHQ. While we appreciate the Armed Forces, valiantly doing the job of defending the country like they are supposed to, we do NOT appreciate them meddling in the country's politics.
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Pakistanis love to defend this Army because, its due to this Army, Pakistan has not become a part of India. and shut ur hole, coz if u know what Army has been upto and how many sacrfices have been made so far by the Army u wouldnt start this BS in the first place.
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There you go, emotional drama start ho gaya hai. Let me tell you one thing, i am not doubting or questioning the sacrifices our Jawaans have made or are making, no doubt they are brave souls and are doing the job they have been asked to do. When i criticise the army, I am critcising the Laanti Generals of Pak Army who have brought us in this mess. It is because of them we are seeing 100s of our own civilans being killed/murdered.
Just because Army (rather the soldiers) makes sacrifice for us to protect us, it does not give these Generals the right to act like this. I am sure you do realise it is the Army who is responsible for the mess we find ourselves in. No one else is to blame. Today Army is fighting the very same people who it funded and armed back in 80s & 90s.
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Zardari is allowing drone attacks, thats true and i dont deny that Musharraf allowed it and he paid the price for it, he was taken off from the power of COAS and a new COAS was made. GHQ was not happy with many decisions that Musharraf made and thats another reason GHQ didnt support him in his final stages and didnt take steps to make his tenure longer.
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Zardari is allowing Drone Attacks? What was Musharraf doing in his 8 years' in office? And do you honestly believe Army has not authorised these Drone Attacks? Spare me this BS. Considering the history of our Army, these Drones Attack would not have been taking place had the Army not authorised them. The fact that Musharraf allowed drone attacks in Pakistan proves that US has army permission.
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The story of F-16's is different from that of what we are discussing here. but newer F-16's and F-16 MLU is a stop gap measure till JF-17's are inducted in full numbers. PAF evaluated better options also Rafale and EF2000 even, but the package for upgrading the 30 odd old F-16's was found to be most economical and was made part of the aid plan. Google the F-16 aid plan for details
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I don't have to google anything. You didn't get my point. The Army lacks the balls to say no to Drone attacks because Gen Kayani fully knows that he won't be getting F-16s along with other 'bheek' from US. In other words, this is basically the reward for our great army from US for selling Pakistan and Pakistani Citizens to them. And do i have to tell you that these new F-16s are for fighting the War of Terror? Uncle Sam will make sure all these weapons are used on Pak Citizens...
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Use of F-16 on own people is also a media hype. There was only one misled strike recently that caused civilian casualities.
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Look at the arrogance you are showing. Use of F-16 is media hype? Give me a break. Each & every day PAF is carrying out air strikes in FATA, killing countless people. And there was only one misled strike by PAF? Ohhh please. In past 8 years, PAF & PA has killed thousands, not hundreds, of our own people. The Army who calims it will protect people of Pakistan from threats has and still is killing it's own people. How ironic.
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I dont think i seem emotional from any of my statements, but ur post is like ur sitting on boiling water.and most of ur post is of a brainwashed media victim.
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The bold part above applies to your posts, not mine.
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Zardari is surely an american puppet but not protected by the Army in the way u take it
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If Zardari was not protected by Pak Army, today he would not have been sitting in Presidential Palace in Islamabad. You & I, we both know it. But you just won't admit it.
PS: Just like you, i love my nation. I am a patriotic Pakistani but my love for my nation is not blind. Ofcourse, i realise the sacrifices our Jawaans have made or are making. I salute their bravery, i know had it not been because of these Jawaans i would not have been alive. But it's about time we get over the past and look forward to the future. The decisions these Generals have made or making are just not acceptable. Which country would allow drone attacks on it's own soil? Which country uses it's own Air Force on it's own people? Which country sells it's civilans to other countries for the sake of few $$$s? One & Only Pakistan!
It's about time we wake up, put our differences aside, and question these *******s. They have no right to treat our own people like this. These laantis are killing/selling the very same people who elect them to power. This bakwaas has to stop.
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Preparing the American Invasion of Pakistan
^ It sounds a little far-fetched but more reality there than we see in the mainstream media.