US tried to plant WMDs:Pentagon whistleblower

According to a stunning report posted by a retired Navy Lt Commander and 28-year veteran of the Defense Department (DoD), the Bush administration’s assurance about finding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq was based on a Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) plan to “plant” WMDs inside the country. Nelda Rogers, the Pentagon whistleblower, claims the plan failed when the secret mission was mistakenly taken out by “friendly fire”, the Environmentalists Against War report.

Nelda Rogers is a 28-year veteran debriefer for the DoD. She has become so concerned for her safety that she decided to tell the story about this latest CIA-military fiasco in Iraq. According to Al Martin Raw.com, “Ms Rogers is number two in the chain of command within this DoD special intelligence office. This is a ten-person debriefing unit within the central debriefing office for the Department of Defense.”

The information that is being leaked out is information “obtained while she was in Germany heading up the debriefing of returning service personnel, involved in intelligence work in Iraq for the DoD and/or the CIA. “According to Ms Rogers, there was a covert military operation that took place both preceding and during the hostilities in Iraq,” reports Al Martin Raw.com, an online subscriber-based news/analysis service which provides “Political, Economic and Financial Intelligence”.

Al Martin is a retired Lt Commander (US Navy), the author of a memoir called “The Conspirators: Secrets of an Iran-Contra Insider,” and is considered one of America’s foremost experts on corporate and government fraud. Ms Rogers reports that this particular covert operation team was manned by former military personnel and “the unit was paid through the Department of Agriculture in order to hide it, which is also very commonplace”.

According to Al Martin Raw.com, “the Agriculture Department has often been used as a paymaster on behalf of the CIA, DIA, NSA and others”. According to the Al Martin Raw.com story, another aspect of Ms Rogers’ report concerns a covert operation which was to locate the assets of Saddam Hussein and his family, including cash, gold bullion, jewelry and assorted valuable antiquities. The problem became evident when “the operation in Iraq involved 100 people, all of whom apparently are now dead, having succumbed to so-called ‘friendly fire’. The scope of this operation included the penetration of the Central Bank of Iraq, other large commercial banks in Baghdad, the Iraqi National Museum and certain presidential palaces where monies and bullion were secreted.”

“They identified about $2 billion in cash, another $150 million in Euros, in physical banknotes, and about another $100 million in sundry foreign currencies ranging from Yen to British Pounds,” reports Al Martin.

“These people died, mostly in the same place in Baghdad, supposedly from a stray cruise missile or a combination of missiles and bombs that went astray,” Martin continues. “There were supposedly 76 who died there and the other 24 died through a variety of ‘friendly fire’, ‘mistaken identity’ and some of them—their whereabouts are simply unknown.” Ms Rogers’ story sounds like an updated 21st-century version of Treasure Island meets Ali Baba and the Bush Cabal Thieves, writes Martin.

“This was a contingent of CIA/ DoD operatives, but it was really the CIA that bungled it,” Ms Rogers said. “They were relying on the CIA’s ability to organise an effort to seize these assets and to be able to extract these assets because the CIA claimed it had resources on the ground within the Iraqi army and the Iraqi government who had been paid. That turned out to be completely bogus. As usual.”

“CIA people were supposed to be handling it,” Martin continues. “They had a special ‘black’ aircraft to fly it out. But none of that happened because the regular US Army showed up, stumbled onto it and everyone involved had to scramble. These new Iraqi “asset seizures” go directly to the New US Ruling Junta. The US Viceroy in Iraq Paul Bremer is reportedly drinking Saddam’s $2000 a bottle Napoleon-era brandy, smoking his expensive Davidoff cigars and he has even furnished his office with Saddam’s Napoleon-era furniture.

US tried to plant WMDs:Pentagon whistleblower

So saddam is gone and replaced by an american saddam, US tried to plant weapons what a surprise not the whole world and its dog knows there gonna plant them sooner or later

nut surprising at all :~)

Desperate people do desperate things, especially terrorists like the American occupiers of Iraq.

I was listening to NPR in which I heard Kofi Annan saying something like US and UK are the occupiers so they are responsible for the security.

Does it mean that UN recognizes US and UK as occupiers of Iraq?

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Interesting question. Wasn't there some sort of Resolution pushed through at the Security Council some weeks ago where the US and UK were recognized as the current authorities of Iraq - something like that, i doubt the word 'authorities' was used, some other word with less connotations. But, it was a Resolution that was pushed through by the Council, shortly after the official end of the invasion.

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Yes, the US and Britain jointly submitted to the UN their intent to occupy the country. The UN approved it so now the US/UK carry the legal responsibilities of an occupier.

Australia ‘twisted Iraq intelligence’ , BBC, 22 August 2003

A former senior Australian intelligence analyst has accused Canberra of exaggerating the case for going to war in Iraq, on the first day of an official inquiry. The Australian parliamentary inquiry is examining the intelligence used by Prime Minister John Howard to justify sending more than 2,000 Australian troops to Iraq.

As in Britain and the United States, there has been public concern in Australia over whether intelligence information, especially that relating to weapons of mass destruction (WMD), was manipulated.

Andrew Wilkie, who resigned in March in protest at the war in Iraq, told the inquiry that the government had distorted intelligence information to suit its political purposes.

“Sometimes the exaggeration was so great, it was clear dishonesty,” he told the inquiry.

Inquiry Told Australia Govt Lied About Iraq Threat
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CANBERRA (Reuters) - The Australian government lied about the threat of Iraq (news - web sites)'s weapons of mass destruction to justify its involvement in the U.S.-led war, an official inquiry into intelligence on Iraq was told on Friday.

A former senior intelligence analyst, Andrew Wilkie, who resigned in March in protest over Australia’s case for war, said Prime Minister John Howard, a close U.S. ally, created a mythical Iraq by dropping ambiguous references in intelligence reports.

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“The government lied every time it skewed, misrepresented, used selectively and fabricated the Iraq story…The exaggeration was so great it was pure dishonesty,” Wilkie, formerly of the Office of National Assessment (ONA), told the inquiry.
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The ONA is equivalent to the U.S. National Security Agency.

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“Key intelligence assessment qualifications like ‘probably’, ‘could’ and ‘uncorroborated evidence suggests’ were frequently dropped. Much more useful words like massive and mammoth were included,” he added.
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Controversy has been raging in the United States, Britain and Australia over accusations those governments manipulated intelligence on Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to justify the war with no evidence yet found of biological, chemical or nuclear weapons.

Wilkie’s comments to the inquiry are some his strongest yet against Howard’s administration. Since his resignation, Wilkie has made numerous attacks on Howard, embarrassing the Australian leader.

“I don’t know on what he bases those claims. If he has got evidence of that let him produce it, otherwise stop slandering decent people,” Howard told reporters in Adelaide.

“I deny his allegations…ONA has indicated that he had virtually no access to the relevant intelligence.”

PARALLEL TO BRITISH INQUIRY

The Australian parliamentary hearing parallels an inquiry into the information the British government used to make its case for invading Iraq and toppling Saddam Hussein (news - web sites).

Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) and Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon are due to give evidence next week at the inquiry into the suicide of weapons expert David Kelly, who was caught up in a row over the prime minister’s case for war with Iraq.

Howard has said he made the right decision to send a 2,000-strong force to the Gulf despite initial public qualms, but said that intelligence could not have provided absolute proof of the Iraqi threat.

Wilkie said he believes Iraq had a disjointed weapons of mass destruction program, but said the United Nations (news - web sites) should have been given more time to search Iraq.

He said the Australian intelligence community had done an acceptable job in judging the threat posed by Iraq, but was sometimes biased by U.S. intelligence, government pressure and politically correct intelligence officers.

“The government was prepared to deliberately exaggerate the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction and terrorism threat so as to stay in step with the United States. The Australian government misled the Australian public over Iraq,” Wilkie said.

Former U.N. weapons inspector Richard Butler told the inquiry on Friday that 85-90 percent of specific, hard intelligence he received on Iraq from countries including the United States and Britain was accurate, but also very rare.

Butler, who led the U.N. weapons inspection team in Iraq between 1997 and 1999, said the more voluminous, speculative intelligence, such as intercepted messages and pictures taken by spy planes, tended to be less than 50 percent accurate.

“I’m sure once (Iraq) is finally swept then there will be some weapons of mass destruction found. I don’t think they would have destroyed all of them or could have. Let no-one doubt they had a weapons of mass destruction progamme,” Butler said.

The Australian inquiry, some of which will be held in secret because of the confidential nature of some intelligence, is due to report back to the conservative government in December.

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everybody lied to join the war but is it too late to bring out these lies. i mean is anyone going to pay any attention? are attacks in iraq a diversion by USA from such lies just like clinton’s attack on a medicine factory during monica scandle.

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Democratic governments engaging in deceit and lies to popularize an invasion of a sovereign country. More time than Blix was ever given, US and British forces on the ground in Iraq continue to pathetically search for WMD in Iraq - and yet, there is silence from them. Where's all the promised armageddon arsenals ? It's absolutely amazing that our own democratic govts. have gone to such extraordinary lengths to lie to their own public - the very people whom they are supposed to represent. Had Blix been allowed to finish his job, by now all of Iraq would probably have been disarmed..

Geesh, how can the CIA be smart enough to pull off 9-11, and put the blame on Osama, but be incapable of planting a few anthrax spores? It just doesn't make sense.

Stu,
Please be advised that those people in the CIA definately are that stupid.
But, accourding to recent polls here in the United States, the American People are wising up. They now do NOT want Bush to be president again.
Maybe, just maybe, we can find a way to regain some respect from the rest of the international community.
But, it won't be easy to fix the mess the Bush 'Regime' has got us in.

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it doesn't take much to fool the ever gullible American masses.. but seriously do you for a moment think the Government 9/11 "theories" add up?? No wonder the Bush Regime keeps blocking 9/11 investigations.

Report: U.S suspects Iraqi WMD in Lebanon’s Bekaa Valley](http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/breaking_1.html)

:smiley: not much to say about this that hasn’t been said the last dozen times.. But this reminds me of an intense conversation I had back in Spring 02 with some former military folks about how they’d rather we start in the Bekaa and make our way to Baghdad from there instead of the story you’ve seen played out to date… ?

I think it's time they stopped abusing the word "intelligence" ....

:rotfl: Where next? The fabled Atlantis?