"The main hospital was taken over by the Americans, Doctors and patients had to evacuate to local health clinics. "
No wonder they all love them Americans back in Falluja!
'And where have YOU heard that the majority of those 700 killed were terrorists'?
Imdad heard it directly from Bush and read it in the Mars Chronicles!
Next he'll be saying that the KKK want multiculturalism!
Imdads logic does sometimes defy reason.
Ohioguy
If you were to take away the adavantages and left both sides with AK 47's, then we can really see who has the grit, determination and upper hand. However in reality, this is more for the PS2.
If as you say the deciding factor has always been the tech factor, then why not push on N Korea? ( I await the excuses now......)
The fact is that heart, willingness, bravery, tactics and belief in the cause play a vital role in any combat.
The Marines know what their back up is, that is why they are willing. Like I stated before, if you were to send them into the region with the exact fire power, they'd need a lot of toilet paper to cope! If they went in the first place that is.
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though I'm sure some innocents got caught in the middle, especialy since the iraqi fighters were using them as human shields.
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ah yes, civilians dont really mount to much do they? you, me, somebody's parents, someones children - theyre just numbers right?
and yeah, the big bad Iraqi ppl would use their own brothers and sisters as shields
Added to the fact the Marines dont want to fight, they are there just bcos they have no other choice, admitting it wouldnt seem a macho thing to do
Iraqi's on the other hand have plenty of incentive on their side, no matter how many die, the Americans are facing not just a handful of men, their up against a country
Fallujah rebels inflict more bloody losses on the foreign terrorists. :k:
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/world/8456408.htm
6 Marines, scores of Iraqis killed in fierce battle
BY RON HARRIS
St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Six Marines were killed and scores of insurgent Iraqis slain in a fierce 14-hour battle Saturday between Marines and mujahedeen fighters who slipped into this town near the Syrian border. According to Marines, an estimated 300 Iraqis from Fallujah and Ramadi launched an assault against the Americans in Husaybah around 8 a.m. local time, beginning with a roadside bombing and a flurry of 24 mortars.
When Marines responded to the bombing, they were met with small-arms and machine-gun fire as they neared a former Baath Party headquarters. Marines responding to the call for help were mortared and strafed as they made their way into the city. Additional Marines then joined in the fight. Fighting continued late into the night as Marine Cobra helicopter gunships strafed enemy positions near a downtown soccer stadium and Marine helicopters continued to take wounded to their main base 22 miles away at Camp Al-Qaim. At least nine Marines were injured and about 20 Iraqis captured, Marines said. The detainees were taken to Camp Al-Qaim late Saturday night for questioning. All of the Marines were killed in the first hour of the fighting, four of them when they went to clear out a house where Iraqi fighters were hiding. The battalion commander, Col. Matthew Lopez, said he believed the Marines had crushed the insurgents’ attack. “I don’t think they expected us to retaliate as hard as we did,” said Lopez, 40, of Chicago, commander of the 3rd Battalion, 7th Marines.
Re: Its called when push comes to shove
As predicted, the American’s have made what Vietnam-style peace deal on Falluja, after many, many negotiations, which they never said they would have.
The United States announced on Monday that it had sealed a deal to defuse an armed showdown with Iraqi fighters in the Sunni Muslim stronghold of Fallujah.](Daily Jang: Urdu News - Latest Breaking News update Pakistan - jang.com.pk)
To the brave and victorious resistance in Fallujah, and other parts of Iraq. :k: :k:
Re: Re: Its called when push comes to shove
Now why would scums drop demand for the handover for skinning of scums!!! Its a mystery!!! Hey but when push comes to shove scums will offer their mama free. Just sit tight and watch for the spin…
Iraqi terrorists just bombed their own prison killing 20 iraqi prisnors. just so they could kill some americans. That is their logic, but even then they failed to kill americans.
This the islamist way of thinking. No matter how many muslims are killed, even if one american is killed, it is a great victory. Remember the bombing outside the karachi consulate that killed 12 pakistanis? only the blind do not see their eviul ways.
^ Here’s the link. http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4881159&pageNumber=0
The brave Iraqi freedom fighters killed 21 of their own and wounded another 100 by shooting mortars at a prison. Had Americans done this massacre, it would be compared to Sabra and Chatilla.
Way to go guys. 21 less terrorist mouths to feed. 21 less thugs we need to beat up and interrogate. :k: :k: :k:
^ 
How can I take these fallujah faloodas seriously when they act like this? help me..I want to understand their rationale…
Who says that the attack was by the freedom fighters. It could very well be the occupiers.
Before you raise too many thumbs remember the total number of friendly fire deaths, by the Americans who were supposed to be firing precision weapons and are highly trained. :rotfl:
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Who says that the attack was by the freedom fighters. It could very well be the occupiers.
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Yeah. RIIIIIGGGHHHT. The Americans fired mortars into the prison that they control and operate. Wouldn't it have risked less American lives if our soldiers had just shot the thugs in their cells?
I think I've got it figured out. It was the freedom fighter's idea of a prison break. The captain who war planned that operation is probably hanging from a meat hook somewhere by now.
Indeed well done marines, leaving Iraq the old fashion way.
US seeks a truce, no sh*t!
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Indeed well done marines, leaving Iraq the old fashion way.
US seeks a truce, no sh*t!
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So sad, the ceasefire and American retreat from Fallujah came to late for these soldiers...
US goes after thugs in surgical strikes within city limits - and America haters shout genocide! (which minimizes the real and tragic genocides of history). The US could take care of these thugs in less than 24 hours but is determined (for political and humanitarian reasons) to mimimze cilvilian casualties.
Because thugs are hiding behind civilians in civilian areas the US unilaterally calls a cease fire and trys the humane (and politically correct) approach of negotiating a settlement. These these same America haters imply the US are cowards. This type of illogical reasoning is transparent and quite laughable. It makes all other posts irrelevant because of the obvious bias.
After the American failure in Fallujah (and elsewhere in Iraq) now the usual American spin, which I’m afraid even a growing number of American people are not even believing now.
Plus killing 600-700 civilians in a week is hardly trying to minimize casualties. Take a read of this, and other similar articles posted in thread earlier which testtify to what the civilians who have managed to escape Fallujah are saying.
**Civilian Deaths Anger Fallujah Refugees **](Yahoo News: Latest and Breaking News, Headlines, Live Updates, and More)
Fleeing the city of Fallujah in their car, 9-year-old Gofran Mohammed’s parents and three of her siblings were killed by a spray of gunfire — U.S. fire, her relatives say. Now Gofran, wounded in the attack, is huddled with other Fallujah families in Baghdad who vow never to forgive the Americans
Many residents have reported civilian casualties they blame on U.S. fire, particularly during the first week of fighting in Fallujah…
In the first seven days of fighting, more than 600 Iraqis were killed, mostly civilians, according to the city hospital.
Yes, yes you are too smart for us. i have heard that US army units are attacking the marines in fallujah. Their are no insurgents their! Only mossad
Allah akbar!!!
Picture emerges of Falluja siege](BBC NEWS | Middle East | Picture emerges of Falluja siege)
One that America will not like…
Humanitarian workers speak of US gunmen firing at ambulances and civilians.
Sistanis chappal does wonders - US military backs down
Sistani shows his swinging chappal](http://www.gupistan.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145800)
**Military backing down from an all-out assault on Fallujah
**](http://www.news24houston.com/content/headlines/?ArID=27790&SecID=2)
Lets have the spin please… 