US Primary elections: Who are you rooting for?

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I voted for Trump in the primary wink wink :D

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Oh so that is why people call you "primary fall"

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I am not a fan of universal healthcare. Having lived under universal healthcare all my life in Canada, it is not the utopia people think it is. The wait times are atrocious even for a simple endoscopy. My mother went in for a simple appendicitis surgery and became so sick that she had to be admitted into ICU for a week because no one bothered to come check her after her surgery when her oxygen levels were in the low 80's. I talked to my physician friends here and they said as soon as a patient post surgery has low oxygen levels, a doctor rushes to check out the patient. No such thing in Canada. I had to create a scene for the nurses to send in a doctor. And this was a great hospital. The doctors are over worked and cannot keep up with the demand. When the patients request proper care they dismiss it as the patients being too demanding when in all fairness it's a patients right to be given due care. A good friend of mine in Denmark is also really disappointed with the Danish health care. Basically if you're not bleeding from your throat and having a stroke or heart attack, the doctors in Canada don't take you seriously.

I think the healthcare is pathetic there and I'm so glad to have the freedom to contact a specialist here in the U.S. under my own discretion. I also don't like Obama care because it drastically increased my premiums and deductibles just so that insurance companies who denied coverage to people with pre existing conditions can now provide them coverage and we are basically footing their bill. I think the only solution to healthcare should've been to increase the eligibility for Medicaid but keep the private insurance system as it was pre Obama care or maybe create a tiered system. But no way would I ever want to live under universal healthcare because I think it's a disaster.

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some person's appendicitis and post-op complications can be more expensive to my insurance company than a person with a pre-existing condition who is stable. why should i foot the bill for the former and not the latter?

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People who don't like Universal healthcare say that why should I foot the bill for other people when I don't have health issues ( you do have higher taxes). Others say they don't want the Government interfering in their decisions. And also, healthcare is not your right. You spend money to fix your roof so spend to fix your health too. Infant mortality and other healthcare statistics show that other industrialized countries are doing better healthcare wise, even though they spend less on healthcare.

I have been a student of healthcare administration and had heard some interesting debates in class. Fact is the working poor simply can't afford healthcare, forget about the ones who are lazy and what not. And oh in many states you can't qualify for Medicaid unless you have dependent children.

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Do they gave evidence to show this to be the case? Or did they pull it out of their crapper?

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Having been to county hospital, it is pretty bad compared to private hospitals. You do wait several hours even in emergency, could be anywhere from 4 to 14 hours long wait. The nurses and doctors have terrible attitude.

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Ok. We could work on that.

Sanders had a great answer today when Chuck Toad asked him abt danger of health care being rationed. Sander said 29 million are already rationed out of healthcare. Millions also cannot afford medicine

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True a complication arising from a simple procedure can be expensive but it's an anomaly rather than the norm. It's usually much more costly to treat people with pre existing conditions who need constant medical care and medical supplies. And that is why everyone's premiums are higher now to make sure the insurance companies keep up their hefty profits. Also, I was trying to show the stark difference in care under universal healthcare and private health care. My mother was ignored by the medical team even though her oxygen levels were in the low 80's. That's a big deal but it was brushed off because you could see the non chalant attitude amongst the nurses. In the U.S. they are just more vigilant about these things and my mother would have never deteriorated to the point she did if she was here. I've seen care provided in both countries and there is a huge difference. I've also seen gross negligence in so many other cases and there is absolutely nothing you can do as a patient other than just suck it up and be thankful for 'free' healthcare. Mind you it's not free. My family has been working full time ever since they got to Canada and have paid more than their fair share of taxes so yes I do expect the doctors to be at their service when they are admitted to the hospital and not make it seem as if they are doing us a favor!

Also the only thing I like about Obamacare is that people with pre existing conditions are now covered. I just think Medicaid should have been expanded and Obamacare did have a public option initially which never became part of the final bill. It's also important to put a cap on private insurance payouts. It's totally feasible to put a cap on these payouts to maybe 125% of Medicare but the GOP buffoons and insurance lobbyists don't let that happen. All I am saying is universal healthcare is NOT the answer to the current healthcare crisis. The same people who are crying for universal healthcare will be crying about the super duper long wait times and lack of proper care if it does get implemented.

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So expand Medicaid for those 29 million. Why subject the other 290 million to universal healthcare and lower the standard of care?

Medicine is an entirely different ballgame. Even Canada doesn't have public insurance for medicine but they do have price controls. U.S. is the only country with no price controls thanks to the pharmaceutical lobby.

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In some countries you can even qualify for free IVF rounds. In the U.S. Few insurances if any cover it. People in the universal healthcare companies have the option to buy private insurance if they want better service.

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Are you implying give the 29 million the same POOR treatment that medicaid recipients receive? Why not LIFT the standard across the board

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In canada we don't have the option of buying private insurance. Maybe Quebec does (not sure) but Ontario definitely has no such policy.

It's not poor at all! My mother in law is a Medicaid recipient and her care is excellent. She goes to a great hospital! Medicaid recipients go to hospitals for pretty much everything and hospitals obviously cannot turn them away. So no their treatment is far from poor. Once you're in the hospital you are treated well regardless of whether you're on Medicaid or a PPO plan.

Lifting the standard is easier said than done. I wish people would stop comparing the US with a population of 320 million to countries with a population of less than 80 million or so. There is no comparison. Like it or not,once healthcare becomes universal, the standards inevitably go down because it's impossible to keep up with the demand and I don't even want to imagine what would happen to the standards in a country with a population of 320 million.

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What are you saying exactly. If Medicaid is not poor, we can assume Medicate is equal or better. Sanders is proposing Medicare for ALL.

If you think Medicaid is good, why would Medicare for ALL not be good

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Mainai note kiya hai U.S. elections hamaisha bas chehron ki fight hoti hai! Marina Khan acts like Madonna! :flower1:

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Was the flower for Marina Khan or Madonna?

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Kasich impressed me. But even he talks about arming this group and that one and this approach of arming Rebels has caused a lot of problems. You can't arm people unless you know what you're dealing with. Their arming has resulted in ISIS gathering all those arms and donations and launching their own craziness. And it's no one's business anyway. People have their internal protests and problems with their governments. Let them deal with it. Outside forces meddling only results in the crazy assaults of government on people such as seen in Syria.

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Clinton pocketed Navada and having her victory speech now. Once again she started it by thanking Bernie Sanders. :k:

If she wins SC next week which I’m sure she will, it’ll be hard for Bernie to come over the deficit.

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She needs to stop acting arrogant. She is acting like trump, with all the theatrics. Making faces, talking like she never went to an IVY league school, etc.

Manners. People have forgotten their manners this election, and everyone is talking like they are on the TV show: Jersey Shore.

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If Hillary was moving her lips, lies must have been flowing like the Ganges out of Shiva's head.