US presidential candidates openly promote acts of terrorism in foreign countries..

[ehsan]

Re: US presidential candidates openly promote acts of terrorism in foreign countries.

@BindazChakkar

@ehsan - again all you have is the tired old generalities I hear from many who don’t bother to get their aspirational beliefs informed by facts. NAM, voting record on Iran & Palestine etc are obviously inconvenient to remember. Similarly remarks such as “oh yeah - RAW doesn’t know…” is meaningless rhetoric . If you have some fact to base your comments on RAW let’s hear it. I don’t know how old or young you are but facts are important before you come to conclusions and on top of that accuse me of agenda and trolling.

BTW I will have no qualms to admit my mistake if you show me some reasonable fact. I grant that every spy agency spies and that includes CIA, RAW and Mossad. But to blame every illness and bombing and separatist attack and taleban etc on outsiders is plain wrong. And even if RAW wants to do something like that, I very very much doubt if they have the means - smarts, resources, technology & discipline- to do all that.

@achterbahn - as much as it may burn you up, India has always been and continues to be quite important. Don’t take that as any reflection on Pakistan, which is quite important too. The reason I mention USA, India and Israel together in this thread is only because you & others have a habit of blaming RAW, Mossad & CIA for all the ills brought onto Pakistan by its own agency called ISI. If you don’'t make that mistake, I wouldn’t have to correct it

By same token it is fashionable and especially amongst Indians waiting for years to blame everything on Pakistan. You asking me for proofs, do you have nay apart from quoting western and Indian media. Any concrete proofs? As for taliban who supported them in the good old days, who was instrumental in creating them in the first instance. The same people who are calling them terrorists were calling them freedom fighters and mujhadin when they were doing their dirty work. ISI has its responsibility towards defence of Pak and if US doesnt like it they know what to do. As for my age I have lived through the 65 war with India, that should tell you. Seen a lot and know every trick the Indians play. I am all for peace between the two countries but will never allow or accept domination or bullying by them.It is shameful to see Indians hiding behind the Americans to vent their hatred against Pak.

[BindazChakkar]

Re: US presidential candidates openly promote acts of terrorism in foreign countries.

SO because taleban was co-created or nurtured by the ISI and CIA to fight Russia 20+ years ago - that gives them rights to shelter Al Qaeda and other terrorists? And you really believe Osama bin Laden was able to live in that military town without being sheltered and sponsored by Pak military?

Come on.

I am for peace too. I know India has great problems to solve for its people and that will only be possible if Pakistan allows it.

Getting you non-Indian and non-Western sources for proof? That will be difficult given my language limitations but I will try.

I will prove what I said. You do the same

[mo293]

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@ehsan

By same token it is fashionable and especially amongst Indians waiting for years to blame everything on Pakistan. You asking me for proofs, do you have nay apart from quoting western and Indian media. Any concrete proofs? As for taliban who supported them in the good old days, who was instrumental in creating them in the first instance. The same people who are calling them terrorists were calling them freedom fighters and mujhadin when they were doing their dirty work. ISI has its responsibility towards defence of Pak and if US doesnt like it they know what to do. As for my age I have lived through the 65 war with India, that should tell you. Seen a lot and know every trick the Indians play. I am all for peace between the two countries but will never allow or accept domination or bullying by them.It is shameful to see Indians hiding behind the Americans to vent their hatred against Pak.

Oh Look, ISI bribed Shri Hillary to a confession.. People we are fighting today we funded 20 years ago…

Aby yaar why you wasting time… Indians live in full and complete denial… but just for fun please proceed…

[BindazChakkar]

Re: US presidential candidates openly promote acts of terrorism in foreign countries.

@mo293 - read #22.

@ehsan : actually it wasn;t too difficult; there is a Pakistani admitting and exposing the ISI terrorist nexus

[rommel]

Re: US presidential candidates openly promote acts of terrorism in foreign countries.

these indian fanatics are a joke they actually think the ISI is root cause of all their miserable and pathetic lives if it rains too heavy must be ISI agents, India has economic crash must be those ISI dudes

oh no maoists are attacking the police they must be trained by ISI

they dreaming about ISI in their sleep

[achterbahn]

Re: US presidential candidates openly promote acts of terrorism in foreign countries.

BindaazChakar: If I show you that “your own” people admit that RAW has been instrumental in fanning “freedom struggles” and other terrorist acts in the neighboring countries, will you then for a change admit that RAW is involved in terrorism in neighboring countries?

Or will you still keep your head burried in the sand?

[ehsan]

Re: US presidential candidates openly promote acts of terrorism in foreign countries.

@BindazChakkar

@mo293 - read #22.

@ehsan : actually it wasn;t too difficult; there is a Pakistani admitting and exposing the ISI terrorist nexus

if you were going to give proof give some solid one, not one coming form some dodgy blog created by someone claiming to be Pakistani. I am removing the link.