US Plans for Rule of Iraq on hold (Merged)

The Iraqi opposition seems to be particularly feeble as the US are prasctically going to have to run the country in the absence of any credible home-based candidates. There will be some token role for this Chalabi dude it seems.

April 07, 2003

US delays naming team to form new government

By Elaine Monaghan in Washington, Richard Beeston, Diplomatic Editor, and Philip Webster, Political Editor

THE face of America’s planned new government for Iraq was to emerge from the shadows today when a retired US Army general, selected by the Pentagon to replace Saddam Hussein, was scheduled to name Baghdad’s new administration.
In a sign, however, of the uncertainty hanging over the post-war arrangements, American officials cancelled Lieutenant-General Jay Garner’s first public appearance hours before it was due to take place. No explanation was given.

General Garner was expected to unveil the new authority that will be in charge of the civil administration in territory captured by US and British troops. He may set up an advance headquarters at Baghdad’s international airport, where his staff would be able to begin running operations as soon as Saddam’s regime collapses.

Paul Wolfowitz, the US Deputy Defence Secretary, said yesterday that the first challenge for the US-led administration would be to get food and medicine to the people and ensure that crucial infrastructure, such as water systems and sewerage, were functioning as soon as possible. Later the new government is hoping to reopen schools and ministries and even issue a new currency, without Saddam’s face.

Even before the mission is launched, however, General Garner is finding the going tough. He has been condemned by Washington’s critics for running a modern colonial government imposed from abroad, which many fear could become a model for future post-conflict governments. He has been criticised by America’s allies for ignoring the United Nations, which so far has been given only a walk-on part by Washington. There are also disputes within the Bush Administration about the selection of his staff.

Finally, the more damage is done to the country’s infrastructure, and the longer fighting rages, the harder his task will be. Crucially, it is not clear whether the civilian population in Iraq and the country’s civil service will co-operate with the new American authority.

Nevertheless, the former Vietnam veteran and close friend of Donald Rumsfeld, the US Defence Secretary, insists that he will establish a transitional authority lasting a few months and later hand over power to an Iraqi interim administration.

Mr Wolfowitz, the architect of the war against Iraq, made clear yesterday that the process from a US-led government to a broad Iraqi one will take months — not least because of a lack of credible Iraqi opposition figures to lead a government. He said that the operation would be more complex than the one by which Kurds took over the reins of northern Iraq from allied forces at the end of the Gulf War in 1991. That transition, which General Garner helped to oversee as commander of US forces in the region, took half a year.

“This is a more complicated situation. It probably will take more time than that,” Mr Wolfowitz told Fox News.

One of the most sensitive issues is the legitimacy of the US-installed government, to be made up largely of former American military officers, diplomats, aid workers and half a dozen British officials, who have been attached to General Garner’s staff over the past few months.

The new administration is particularly controversial because it does not include any formal role for the UN, which has been directly involved in most recent post-conflict resolutions, in particular in Afghanistan, Kosovo and East Timor.

The European Union and other nations have given warning that they will not assist in postwar reconstruction of Iraq unless the UN is given a “central role” in shaping the country’s future. America has conceded the need for “a role” for the UN, but so far has limited the contribution to humanitarian aid. This dispute could also cause splits between Britain and America. On the eve of Tony Blair’s latest summit with President Bush in Belfast, Labour MPs queued up to urge the Prime Minister to prevent Washington from dominating the reconstruction of Iraq, with a Cabinet minister, Peter Hain, suggesting the UN should be “in charge”.

While Mr Blair supports the inevitable period of military rule under American and British forces, he wants it to be as short as possible. For the second stage, Britain is proposing the idea of a UN-sponsored conference that would pave the way for an interim Iraqi-led authority, advised by the allies and the UN. Finally, there would be representative government after elections.

Chris Smith, the former Cabinet minister who spearheaded the Commons revolts against Mr Blair last month, said it was essential that reconstruction was determined by the international community at the UN rather than just by the Americans.

Looks like Jay Garner is the man who will take Saddam’s role of running Iraq. Interesting choice and a pro-Israeli to boot. No chance of illegal Zionist settlements being dismantled anytime soon then…

April 07, 2003

‘I am going away, I have to do a little work for Donald Rumsfeld’

By Richard Beeston

WHEN Jay Garner last set foot in Iraq, he was hailed as a hero for commanding American and British forces on a humanitarian mission to save the Kurds of northern Iraq from revenge attacks by President Saddam Hussein’s regime.
But as he was carried shoulder-high by the Iraqis he had been sent to protect, one placard held by a Kurdish supporter should have alerted him to the possibility that he might one day be forced to return. “Thank you, but the job is half-done,” read the prescient message.

Twelve years later the retired US Army general finds himself like a latter-day Douglas MacArthur, who memorably promised, “I shall return,” after being driven out of the Philippines by Japanese forces. General Garner’s summons to duty was less spectacular, but the job he faces running Iraq after President Saddam Hussein is no less daunting than MacArthur’s in the Pacific.

The retired general was fixing the deck on his boat at his lakeside home in Windermere, Florida, recently when the Pentagon rang. He was asked if he would be willing to go back to Iraq and finish the job. “I am going to be away for a while,” he told his family. “I have to do a little work for Donald Rumsfeld.”

After weeks of secret preparations, involving close co-ordination between Washington and London and including bitter turf battles between the Pentagon and the State Department, General Garner is finally to come out of the shadows.

Most Iraqis have probably never heard of him. Certainly the white-haired career soldier, who celebrates his 65th birthday next week, looks more like an elderly American tourist than a man hailed by some as a saviour and condemned by others as a modern colonial viceroy. From today General Garner, who will be accompanied by a team of Gurkha bodyguards, is will be presented to the world as the new leader of Iraq.

Although his title is simply director of the Pentagon’s Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance for Iraq, he will command several hundred American and British staff and run an entire civil administration, complete with regional governors and ministers responsible for everything from education to health.

Friends say that General Garner’s avuncular appearance and his backslapping style conceal a determined and effective commander.

“We are here to do the job of liberating them, of providing them with a form of government that represents the freely elected will of the people,” he said last week. “We’ll do it as fast as we can.” One friend described him as “a bulldozer — but a very bright bulldozer, and exactly the right man for this job”.

His officials have already hinted that, even before Saddam is overthrown, General Garner proposes to establish his headquarters at Baghdad’s captured international airport to “create facts on the ground”.

Nevertheless, there are serious questions about his background. During his last posting at the Pentagon, he was in charge of the controversial missile defence programme, which is closely associated with hawks in the Republican Party.

When he retired from the military, he worked with a defence contractor involved in developing “Star Wars” technology. He is also known to be a good friend of Mr Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary.

**His links to Israel have also raised concerns about his qualifications for running postwar Iraq.

In 1998 he visited Israel as a guest of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, a pro- Israeli lobby group. Two years later he co-signed a letter, with other former generals, blaming Palestinians for starting the violence against Israel and praising the Israeli Army for its “remarkable restraint”. **

Colleagues, however, said that these criticisms would not deter him; neither would the danger of the job ahead. “He would not dodge bullets, he’d bite them,” retired General Thomas McIrnerney told Fortune magazine.

Apparently his (Garner's) first assignment will be to oficially recognise the State of Israel and second to re-open the pipeline from Iraq to Haifa. Well in a population which doesn't recognise the right of Israelis to exist I think that will go down like a cluster treat.

US appoints Gen. Garner to lead interim Government

US has appointed pro-israeli Gen J. Garner as the head of the interim government who has previuosly on record saying in the favor of israel in Israeli-palestenian conflict. What a smart move :rolleyes:

Why do you think so? US already has "plans" for the conflict resolution.

^ i see this as a smart move to further establish thier control over iraq and further piss the Arabs off.

what can Ay-raabs do? Cry? Ha Ha. Thats all they can do.

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what can Ay-raabs do? Cry? Ha Ha. Thats all they can do.
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They will use sharp words with Colin Powell at their next meeting.

Hey. The General is an Iraqi civilian.

Don't tell me u lot didn't know that!

Re: US appoints Gen. Garner to lead interim Government

Saby,

He said that? I thought he said that he was not in favor of Land for Peace deal, as I understood him to mean that it set a bad precedent and that he didn’t believe it was a good basis for peace.

Could you link your information about him? I’d like to read it.

Thanks

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Saby,

He said that? I thought he said that he was not in favor of Land for Peace deal, as I understood him to mean that it set a bad precedent and that he didn't believe it was a good basis for peace.

Could you link your information about him? I'd like to read it.

Thanks
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yah okay i will find the story i read on bbc and will post the link.
But this 3 month interim govt is a joke. All along US wanted to handover it to UN and now they are backing away. Well i know agai they will have their way out of htier arrogancy and pure 'might is right' theory.

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All along US wanted to handover it to UN and now they are backing away. Well i know agai they will have their way out of htier arrogancy and pure 'might is right' theory.
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Well actually "Might IS Right" and UN is really a joke. They couldn't stop the invasion, so what right do they have to now get a role in ruling Iraq? Nothing. And I am not sure when did US said that they wanted to handover Iraq to the UN. It's not logical and doesn't make sense.

This is war in its basest sense, and the victor will do as it pleases. If someone doesn't like it, they can whine about it, but I doubt many countries of the world, can actually do much about whoever is appointed by the US to rule post-war Iraq.

Good :k: i hope this occurs even if Iraqis vote for a majority of Shi’ites in the new Iraqi government, leading it to a potential alliance with the Iranian govt.

Chalabi is the individual the Jordanian govt. would like to get its hands on for embezzlement charges in Jordan.

Is he the best US has to offer? I mean, even in a stanch pro-US TV channel like CNN, last night, all they were discussing were the negatives associated to Mr Garner, and how his name is criticized by everyone.

How come in a nation of 270 million people, they can find only Mr Garner to rule over such a sensitive territory like Iraq? Aqal baree ke bhains?

This article really demonstrates an interesting philosophical bias by the writer/publisher.

Two of the "serious questions about his background" are that:
1. In his last posting to the Pentagon he was in charge of the missile defense program, and,
2. After retirement, he worked with a defence contractor involved in developing missile defense technology.

Now, someone please tell me why his involvement while in the military and post military with missile defense technology constitutes a "negative background" trait that undermines his suitability for the job in Iraq.

Top Democrat fears `disaster’](Breaking News - Headlines & Top Stories | The Star) Toronto Star 07 Apr 03

Exiles don’t represent Iraq: Senator
Biden warns against giving group power

LINDA DIEBEL STAFF REPORTER

WASHINGTON—**Post-war Iraq could be a ``prescription for disaster,‘’ says a leading Democrat, over what he fears are U.S. plans to divvy up the country among a small group of Iraqi exiles. Delaware Senator Joseph Biden, the leading Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, warned yesterday that the Bush administration is set to allow Ahmad Chalabi, whose Iraqi exile organization has strong corporate and political friendships in Washington, to map out a new Iraq.

"The word was … that Chalabi and the Iraqi National Congress would be 60 per cent or so (of the new government) and they (Chalabi’s group) would pick the remaining 40 per cent,‘’ said Biden. "If that’s the case, that would be a prescription for disaster,‘’ he warned on ABC’s This Week. **Biden’s comments yesterday came as the debate intensified over how long the U.S. will occupy Iraq — and who will run the shattered nation — providing a preview of possible power struggles to come. Today, U.S. President George W. Bush flies to Belfast to discuss the shape of post-war Iraq with British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

"It’s critical for all kinds of reasons that this not be an American administration,‘’ said Michigan Senator Carl Levin, top Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee. Yesterday, Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz predicted a U.S. occupation of at least six months, likely longer. "Six months is what happened in northern Iraq,‘’ he said, referring to Kurdish administration set up following the first Persian Gulf War in 1991. "This is a more complicated situation. It will probably take more than that.‘’

But Wolfowitz, a key administration hawk, said the goal is neither occupation nor long-distance control of Iraqi political and economic life. "You can’t talk about democracy and then turn around and say we’re going to pick the leaders of the democratic country,‘’ he told CBS’s Face the Nation. "I think the right goal is to move as quickly as we can … to a government that is, if I can paraphrase Abraham Lincoln, of the Iraqi people, by the Iraqi people, for the Iraqi people,‘’ he said. "Not to make them a colonial administration or a United Nations administration in any way by force.‘’ …

“Clash of interests” maybe? :rolleyes:

Please explain. I’m really interested in understanding this thought process. What is there that is particular to the missile defense system that somehow disqualifies this guy from working in Iraq? The author doesn’t object based upon him being retired military. Everyone knew that it would be a military or retired military guy. If this guy were in charge of weapons procurement and retired to a munitions company, why would that be less objectionable?

OK, I'll try. But please first tell me in layman terms why Mr Pearle was forced to quit?