US officials get a taste of Pakistanis' anger

US officials get a taste of Pakistanis’ anger at America

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Friday, August 21, 2009
KARACHI:** Judith A McHale was expecting a contentious session with Ansar Abbasi, a Pakistani journalist known for his harsh criticism of American foreign policy**, when she sat down for a one-on-one meeting with him in a hotel conference room in Islamabad on Monday.** She got that, and a little bit more.**

After Ms McHale, the Obama administration’s new Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs, gave her initial polite presentation about building bridges between America and the Muslim world, Mr Abbasi thanked her politely for meeting with him. Then he told her that he hated her.

“You should know that we hate all Americans, “Ms McHale said Mr Abbasi told her. “From the bottom of our souls, we hate you.” Beyond the continuation of the battle against militants along the Pakistani-Afghan border, a big part of President Obama’s strategy for the region involves trying to broaden America’s involvement in the country to include nonmilitary areas like infrastructure development, trade, energy, schools and jobs - all aimed at convincing the Pakistani people that the United States is their friend. But as Ms McHale and other American officials discovered this week, during a visit by Richard C Holbrooke, the special representative to Pakistan and Afghanistan, making that case was not going to be easy.

“We have made a major turn with our relationship with Pakistan under President Obama,” Mr Holbrooke told reporters at a news conference in Karachi on Wednesday. Time and again, Mr Holbrooke tried to delineate the differences between the Obama administration and the Bush era, painting the new administration as one that wants to see a better life and more business opportunities for Pakistanis.

He said his very presence in Karachi - Pakistan’s largest city and its commercial capital - demonstrated that drone attacks and the hunt for Al-Qaeda were not the only American foreign policy activities in the country.

To polite applause, Mr Holbrooke told local officials at the Governor’s House that the United States Consulate in Karachi would start granting business visas -100 a week - instead of making would-be business travelers to the United States go to Islamabad for the visas, as has been the case.

He stopped at a shantytown in the city to chat with schoolboys crowded into three classrooms, and even visited the home of a local resident, to get a feel for how people in Karachi live. On Tuesday, he met opposition leaders in Islamabad, including Liaqat Baloch, Secretary General of the anti-American political party Jamaat-e-Islami, and Fazlur Rehman, leader of another anti-American party, Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, who is sometimes referred to as the spiritual founder of the Taliban.

In Karachi on Wednesday, Mr Holbrooke kept bringing up a trade bill that just passed the House, which would set up so-called reconstruction opportunity zones so that textiles and other goods made in Pakistan’s tribal areas could get preferential access to the United States market. And Ms McHale, whose job is, in part, to try to repair America’s relations with the Muslim world, strayed from his side only when she ventured out on fence-mending missions of her own, meeting with 17 Pakistani journalists, 8 officials of non-governmental organizations and members of several political parties, all in an effort to deliver one message: ‘America cares about Pakistan.’

But Mr Abbasi’s reaction-a response that, Ms McHale acknowledged, apparently reflects the feelings of about 25 per cent of the population, according to a recent poll-demonstrated just how tough the job was. For all of the administration’s efforts to call attention to the non-military ties that would bind the two countries, America is still being judged by many Pakistanis as an uncaring behemoth whose sole concern is finding Osama bin Laden, no matter the cost in civilian Pakistani lives.

“He told me that we were no longer human beings because our goal was to eliminate other human beings,” Ms McHale said Wednesday, recounting the conversation with Mr Abbasi. “He spoke English very well, and he said that thousands of innocent people had been killed because the Americans were trying to find Osama bin Laden.”

Following Mr Holbrooke’s example when he received a similar lashing from Mr Baloch, Ms McHale said she argued her points with Mr Abbasi, points that to many Americans would appear logical, but that often failed to impress over here: Al-Qaeda and bin Laden attacked the United States on Sept 11, 2001; the war in Afghanistan, unlike the war in Iraq, is blessed by the United Nations and is a multinational effort; America will always do whatever it takes to defend itself. She said that even though she knew that she did not sway Mr Abbasi, it was good to hear what he thought because she wanted to try to understand the source of much of the anti-Americanism in Pakistan. Meanwhile, in Karachi, Mr Holbrooke continued to push an agenda of soft power, telling business leaders that the United States wanted to invest in energy projects in Pakistan. But he acknowledged that some of the projects that Karachi technocrats put before him, with their complex ownership structures, would never get approval in the Congress.

The trade bill, now before the Senate, has labour provisions that are unlikely to get past free-trade Republicans, whose support is needed for it to pass. And on top of that, in a concession to the United States textile industry, the bill would not include imports of cotton tops and pants, items that are made in abundance in Pakistan.

Courtesy New York Times
US officials get a taste of Pakistanis’ anger at America

Darn! that must have hurt some feelings in Pakistani and American circles…heck maybe even on this forum (just watch and see ;)). You may or may not like the journalist for whatever reason, but what he has said is a sentiment that a majority of Pakistanis feel atleast towards the American Govt and its Foreign Policies, same could not be said of people-people relations because everyone outside of America realizes that Media and Corps. make and break Govts. and American public is innocent of most of these chances, only if guilty then of the fact that they allow themselves to become sheeple and deliberately feed on D.C. Propaganda. Case in point, all major conflicts and wars that have been made to look necessary so Military Machine can remain strong and dominant even if at the cost of innocent human lives and spread of misery across the globe.

If that’s not cause enough to earn “hatred” then i don’t know what is.

Hmmm.

Obviously the journalist excellence of Mr. Abbasi is at the display, all bare and naked.

So, think about a reverse scenario.

Pakistani official or perhaps PM Gilani being Wolf Blitzer. Then suddenly Wolf goes mad and starts shouting at Gilani saying, we hate you, we hate every Pakistani, every f'ing Muslim. you are all vermin to be squashed. You killed 1000s of innocent Americans. blah blah blah.

How would you Mr. Vigo feel about the mad outburst of wolf?
Would you celebrate him as an American hero?
Or you would ask CNN to fire Wofie?

Vigoratus

When Pakis get $s from Uncle Sam, accept the conditions attached with it. Uncle Sam is like Paki police man, "es ki na dosti achi hay na doshmani". Dictators should have learnt this a long time ago.

Good one, many pakistanis don't like it when the chappal is on the other pearr.

I would expect PM Gilani to not meet Wolf Blitzer again, and deny him the spotlight. Simple :)

The rest of your "more of the same" doesn't warrant a reply.

PS: Many "crusade-minded" journalists feel that way, and it is no secret. Just because Wolf Blitzer does not say it, doesn't prove anything. Please try again...

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Even if you hate someone you do not say it. Anser Burney has done as great unservice to Pakistan. Jang should not have published the story. How Anser Burney or many other Pakistani would feel if we say the same to Saudis.

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Ansar Abbasi, the great spokesman for taliban has once again shown his cheap and paindu ways while accomplishing nothing but showing how mentally challenged and full of hate the mad mullahs are.

I'm sure this once more will be celebrated by nawaz and imran leaguers as a great coup.

Excellent!!!

4000 people died in the tragedy of 9/11, in return Americans have killed almost a million, hunderd millions are direct effected by the madness of American Elephant + Donkey, and millions were to be effected, still Americans are wondering that y every one hates them...

The Funniest part, after all this destruction ( which even Gengis Khan cannot think in his wildest dream), the Osama and other culprits are still alive and at are freely attacking/threating.. so who were the people got killed? does the relatives of these deads will ever LOVE USA...

Aren't we throwing "millions" and "billions" figures willy nilly?

Wonder how many of those "relatives" are posting on the gs (and BTW relatives don't mean the phony arabized brotherhood).

Is Abbasi a "relative" or he is just trying to be a "Khawaja ka gawah mandek"?

Ansar Abbasi was not relaying "Government`s" feelings. Its the government (and its officials) that is getting money while drones are directly affecting Pakistani people and its economy, so to say that Pakistanis should shut up because US is paying money for drone attacks is just silly.

Can Abbasi or any other person have his own opinion? Can Abbasi or any other person have feeling or likeness or hate? can these feeling be different than of yours? if yes, then Abbasi is right if not, then you are another form of Taliban.. one tried to put up their version of Islam and one with your mindset, imposes their theories....

Ansar Abbasi may be the Khawjah ka gawah Maindak, but your mindset are "Dhobi ka kuta, gher ka na ghaat ka"

Now don't be offended, its you who started it..

Abbasi can certainly have "his" opinion. However when we said this:


we hate all Americans, “......... “From the bottom of our souls, we hate you.


he definitely stepped over the fine line of journalistic ethics. Him being a Pakistani makes it $tupeed to start a statement as "We hate................". This is so primitive and uncivilized.

Going back to the CNN example, Wolf Blitzer can have his "personal" opinion about hating all Pakistanis, or hating all Muslims.

But Wolfie needs to set that aside when he is interviewing a Pakistani dignitary.

Perhaps it is too difficult for you to understand the norms of "civilized behavior".

When he said WE, he meant he and his mindset, you need not to worry, there are many in Pakistan which can do every thing ( ofcourse if paid well) for USA.. so you can relax and have a chill pill

Thank you all.

Yes. It is time that we start giving respect to others at the same level that we demand respect for ourselves.

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quite disingenious to claim that UN's blessing were sought before launching the war on afghanistan. An approval, permission,blessing wasnt sought nor given although for all the honesty and integrity UN posesses silence or blind eye can be miscontructed as blessing.

Interesting to know that nicaragua took US to UN for supporting (funding and training) terrorist organistion in nicaragua. Nicaragua proved it as well. what happened? not a bit, UN ordered reparations to be made US snubbed UN and thats about all nicaragua got for its pains. Now for US to dress their imperialism under some form of legality (which i admit is the reason behind the facade of UN's creation) is not unique nor unexpected. Nor is pakistanis hatred for american policies.