US Muslims: Wake Up Call (merged)

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Congressman says muslims should not be allowed to enter US.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/12/20/lawmaker.koran/index.html

Rep. Virgil Goode says he will not apologize for his comments. Virginia guppies do jam his phone lines and flood his email box

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n why should he apologize? :halo:

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^ Did you bother to read the article?

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are all republicans from virginia inbred bigots? first Macaca and the this wanker

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Al-Crackaa at his best.

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yo Kaleem its your GOP btw, u write first :)

Which guppies/guppays wud u really go for???!!!
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Funny, the guy needs a history lesson. This country was founded on religious tolerance by people fleeing persecution for their religious beliefs.

Just as a fun example I have reproduced a letter from Washington to the Touro Synagogue. (Lest we forget that Jews were welcome among the early settlers of our country. And, why can we not remember how to properly use the English language well like George did? (Yo, Geo, what up?)

To the Hebrew Congregation in Newport Rhode Island.
Gentleman.
While I receive, with much satisfaction, your Address replete with expressions of affection and esteem; I rejoice in the opportunity of assuring you, that I shall always retain a grateful remembrance of the cordial welcome I experienced in my visit to Newport, from all classes of Citizens.

The reflection on the days of difficulty and danger which are past is rendered the more sweet, from a consciousness that they are succeeded by days of uncommon prosperity and security. If we have wisdom to make the best use of the advantages with which we are now favored, we cannot fail, under the just administration of a good Government, to become a great and happy people.

The Citizens of the United States of America have a right to applaud themselves for having given to mankind examples of an enlarged and liberal policy: a policy worthy of imitation. All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights. For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support. It would be inconsistent with the frankness of my character not to avow that I am pleased with your favorable opinion of my Administration, and fervent wishes for my felicity. May the children of the Stock of Abraham, who dwell in this land, continue to merit and enjoy the good will of the other Inhabitants; while every one shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, and there shall be none to make him afraid. May the father of all mercies scatter light and not darkness in our paths, and make us all in our several vocations useful here, and in his own due time and way everlastingly happy.

G. Washington

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While I am at it, here are more quotes on Religious tolerance from a somewhat better Virginian.

By George Washington

  1. Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought most to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society. [George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792; from George Seldes, ed., The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey: Citadel Press, 1983, p. 726]
  2. There is nothing which can better deserve our patronage than the promotion of science and literature. Knowledge is in every country the surest basis of public happiness. [George Washington, address to Congress, 8 January, 1790]
  3. Religious controversies are always productive of more acrimony and irreconcilable hatreds than thsoe which spring from any other cause. [George Washington, letter to Sir Edward Newenham, June 22, 1792]
  4. ...the path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political direction. [George Washington, 1789, responding to clergy complaints that the Constitution lacked mention of Jesus Christ, from The Godless Constitution: The Case Against Religious Correctness, Isacc Kramnick and R. Laurence Moore W.W. Norton and Company 101-102]
  5. If they are good workmen, they may be from Asia, Africa or Europe; they may be Mahometans, Jews, Christians of any sect, or they may be Atheists.... [George Washington, to Tench Tighman, March 24, 1784, when asked what type of workman to get for Mount Vernon, from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover]
  6. To give opinions unsupported by reasons might appear dogmatical. [George Washington, to Alexander Spotswood, November 22, 1798, from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover]
  7. ...I beg you be persuaded that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution. [George Washington, to United Baptists Churches of Virginia, May, 1789 from *The Washington papers *edited by Saul Padover]
  8. As the contempt of the religion of a country by ridiculing any of its ceremonies, or affronting its ministers or votaries, has ever been deeply resented, you are to be particularly careful to restrain every officer from such imprudence and folly, and to punish every instance of it. On the other hand, as far as lies in your power, you are to protect and support the free exercise of religion of the country, and the undisturbed enjoyment of the rights of conscience in religious matters, with your utmost influence and authority. [George Washington, to Benedict Arnold, September 14, 1775 from The Washington papers edited by Saul Padover] *]The blessed Religion revealed in the word of God will remain an eternal and awful monument to prove that the best Institutions may be abused by human depravity; and that they may even, in some instances, be made subservient to the vilest of purposes.
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seems like goode is at odds with the founding fathers of this great nation.

Larkay
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[quote=Kaleem]
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Kaleem, do tell us what you did about it. Like, a copy of the email you sent to him or something.](“Lawmaker won't apologize for 'Islamophobic' letter - CNN.com”)

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well kaleem did ask Virgin guppies to Jam phone of Goode from HOR, not many virgin guppies here I suppose

PS: ppl from virginia are callec virgins right? :)

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they can do anything they want as long as it keeps the nation secure in a time of war.

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This is a wake up call to all Americans. Ignorant bigots like this need to be voted out of office.

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It is odd, that this cad hails from Charlottesville Virginia. Charlottesville’s most famous citizen proposed the enactment of a Freedom of Religion Law to serve as the most basic of Laws in Virginia. Jefferson himself wrote the Preamble to the Law, in support of the following bill which declares the right of Religious Freedom to be a “Natural Right” of all man kind. The act goes so far as to say that no later Legislature may revoke or infringe upon this right.

II. We the General Assembly of Virginia do enact that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer, on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.

III. And though we well know that this Assembly, elected by the people for the ordinary purposes of legislation only, have no power to restrain the acts of succeeding Assemblies, constituted with powers equal to our own, and that therefore to declare this act irrevocable would be of no effect in law; yet we are free to declare, and do declare, that the rights hereby asserted are of the natural rights of mankind, and that if any act shall be hereafter passed to repeal the present or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right."

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I've stopped caring about this now. I mean we should play our part and that should be it.
if see stupid comments - who cares.
Do what we can do and don't worry about it.

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Lawmaker sees Muslims as threat 'in the usa'

a country known for the liberty, justice and freedom for all,

has this to witness.

hmm. kind of had it coming, right?

grudging politically blinded, consciously doped, paranoiacs are debilitated. & causing more hatred.

what can we do as citizens who do not expect special treatment, but are simply wanting to say, "there are more truths then your truth!!", without being malicious.

any comments?

dushwari

Lawmaker sees Muslims as threat
Virginia Rep. Virgil Goode Jr. said in a letter that more Qur'an-carrying Muslimswill follow Minnesota's Keith Ellison to Congress unless immigration laws are tightened.

By Rob Hotakainen, Star Tribune

WASHINGTON - A Muslim group is asking Virginia Republican Rep. Virgil Goode Jr. to apologize after he told hundreds of his constituents that more Muslims will follow Rep.-elect Keith Ellison, D-Minn., to Congress if strict immigration laws are not passed.

"The Muslim representative from Minnesota was elected by the voters of that district, and if American citizens don't wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran," Goode wrote.

The letter was written in response to constituents who contacted Goode after Ellison said he planned to bring his Qur'an with him when he takes the oath of office on Jan. 4.

In his letter, Goode said: "When I raise my hand to take the oath on Swearing In Day, I will have the Bible in my other hand. I do not subscribe to using the Koran in any way."

Goode, an attorney and former state senator who was first elected to Congress in 1996, said he wants to "stop illegal immigration totally and reduce legal immigration and end the diversity visas policy pushed hard by President Clinton and allowing many persons from the Middle East to come to this country.

"I fear that in the next century we will have many more Muslims in the United States if we do not adopt the strict immigration policies that I believe are necessary to preserve the values and beliefs traditional to the United States of America and to prevent our resources from being swamped," Goode wrote.

Corey Saylor, national legislative director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), said Goode's "Islamophobic remarks send a message of intolerance that is unworthy of anyone elected to public office."

Ellison, who will replace the retiring Democratic Rep. Martin Sabo, did not return phone calls. CAIR officials noted that Ellison traces his family roots in the United States back to 1742. He is a native of Detroit.

Saylor said Goode should apologize, and he offered to arrange a meeting with Goode and Muslims in his district.

Linwood Duncan, Goode's press secretary, said that Goode sent the letter to hundreds of constituents who contacted his office after Ellison disclosed his plans. At about the same time, the head of the local Sierra Club contacted Goode about a different issue, and the letter was accidentally sent to him in response. The Sierra Club official gave a copy of the letter to a reporter.

"The congressman is not apologizing," Duncan said. "He stands by the letter."

John Cruickshank, the Sierra Club official from Earlysville, Va., said he was "deeply offended" when he received the letter from Goode. He said he's in regular contact with Goode on environmental issues.

Goode's letter drew a response from Democratic Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. of New Jersey, who wrote a letter to Goode saying he took his remarks as "personally offensive."I have learned a great deal from the Muslim community and have made it one of my priorities to educate other Americans about the common misconceptions regarding the peaceful faith of Islam," Pascrell wrote.

"There are many valid policy questions regarding immigration that should be addressed by Congress; however, promoting a fear and disrespect of Muslims is not only wrongheaded, but it is reckless. Muslim-Americans do not threaten our American values and traditions, in fact they only add to them."

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Here’s another article in which a Jew said that if you can’t swear on the bible, stay away from office…

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/politics/16291488.htm

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^
We'll he's a dumbass.