Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
Dilemma is that even the liberal's hands are also stained (aka Karachi). Banda jaayay tou kidhar jaayay.
It seems as if the previous regime handed over a very peaceful Pakistan after the recent elections.
Well, at least we should not support the holy mufsideen and their allied parties. Although we can't find angels but not every liberal has his hands tainted.
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Well, at least we should not support the holy mufsideen and their allied parties. Although we can't find angels but not every liberal has his hands tainted.
Liberals are no better, they kill for different reasons. Liberals supporting ANP, MQM and PPP have the blood of all people killed in Karachi during the past 2 decades. Besides PPP was instrumental in creation of taleban in 96, and JUI until recently was allies of ANP, PPP and MQM.
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ANP, Amn-Committee, MQM… aur kon si “liberal” party rah gayee hay “non-tainted” hands wali? 
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
US certainly knows our weak points points, doesn't it?
Why Pakistani leaders provide weak points to cut sorry figure later on? That Gangoo Teli tin commando lied to the world and Pakistani nation, that OBL was burried in Tora Bora caves, though OBL was alive and living amongst military garrison for so many years under his nose.
Don't shoot the messenger. Let that doctor be freed. His only mistake was to expose the lies of Gangoo Teli and those who were hiding him. That doctor should be given highest civilian award for serving the nation.
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Really? That is all you see? Very short-sighted.
Some guys will make every excuse to be supportive of political parties who collude with holy mufsideen murderers.
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US certainly knows our weak points points, doesn't it?
They know our nature and not just the weak points.
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi’s release
^Thats true.
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
The funny thing is that almost of us don't know in which cases he is been arrested and in govt.custody now! （＾_＾）
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
The funny thing is that almost of us don't know in which cases he is been arrested and in govt.custody now! （＾_＾）
Some people don't even know who's Shakil Afridi. Is he the elder brother of Shahid Afridi? :D
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^I honestly don't know who he is
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Ok ok
Great legend of cricket IK says he is a hurdle and responsible for polio vaccine compagin in KPK and FATA coz he with the help of polio compagin did a lot of fake things which make locals to believe on polio compagin. And talibans are against polio stop compagin coz of dr. Afridi?? I'm confused too
Govt.saying he sold information to CIA about obl( I even don't wana type his name in capital words) location so he is a traitor. We are with USA on war of terror so his help to trace him out helped who USA? Pakistan? Well, I'm confused here too. But the funny thing is that he is in custody on very different charges, guess what?
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi’s release
Partially Shakeel Afridi is responsible for this, I am reproducing an article more than an year old. We discussed this right after the raid. Having said that there are other myths attached with polio vaccines like impotency etc.
Ali Hayat: Aid Worker as Spy: The Cost of a Fake Vaccination Campaign
Sadly, none of our politicians made any reference to the consequences and implications of recruiting aid workers as intelligence operatives. At the time of his recruitment by the CIA, Dr. Afridi was administering a polio vaccination effort in Khyber Agency, which isaccording to UNICEF, the worst hit area in Pakistan. Out of 23 polio cases reported in Pakistan this year, nine were detected in Khyber Agency. Vaccination experts working in Pakistan, including westerners, have acknowledged the demonstrable harm resulting from the CIA scheme last year.
The fallout from this has taken place at a number of levels. Firstly, the general population in Pakistan, especially in the more conservative and backward areas, including many of the conflict-afflicted areas has refused vaccinations for their children. At the general population level, the news of an aid professional working as a foreign intelligence operative and in some ways contributing to lethal targeting, stokes all too genuine fears, made even more real by the ongoing drone campaign.
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
^ so he was active under the polio compagin to do what? And the vaccines were fakes? He was injecting to make disease more wrost?
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
^ so he was active under the polio compagin to do what? And the vaccines were fakes? He was injecting to make disease more wrost?
He used the polio vaccination campaign (as a cover) to trace OBL. The people now treat the polio workers as intelligence agents, which creates fear as drone strikes are also continuing.
Read this line it specifically mentions this:
"At the general population level, the news of an aid professional working as a foreign intelligence operative and in some ways contributing to lethal targeting, stokes all too genuine fears, made even more real by the ongoing drone campaign."
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi’s release
Here are more links:
Bin Laden raid harms Pakistan polio fight - CNN.com
This is our discussion on this board:
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
Ok! So you know on which charges he is under arrest?
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
^ cooked up charges. On supporting some terrorist organization. We know why he has been jailed.
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Shakil Afridi, US and UN creating mistrust about anti-polio drive: clerics - thenews.com.pk
**PESHAWAR: After living in a state of denial for over two years and using completely redundant communication strategies to drum up public support, there is growing consensus in the society that Dr Shakil Afridi’s fake vaccination drive, coupled with polio campaign’s association with the United States and the United Nations agencies are the biggest factors that are responsible for rising public mistrust in the country’s largest health initiative.
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This belated and much-needed realisation came at a recently held meeting on the subject of polio eradication. The meeting was held under the chairmanship of provincial secretary for Auqaf, Haj and minorities affairs on the involvement of religious leaders in polio eradication initiative.
According to the official minutes of the meeting, a copy of which is available with The News, the gathering was attended by high-ranking officials of the polio programme, including senior brass from the WHO and Unicef.
According to the minutes of the meeting, Mufti Ghulamur Rahman informed the meeting that the attacks on polio teams were the result of the use of the health activity by the United States to capture al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden.
**He said the fake vaccination drive created deep mistrust among the people in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, where people have different culture from other parts of the country.
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“They are close to Afghanistan and Fata. They thus dislike anything associated with the US including United Nations,” the minutes quoted Mufti Ghulamur Rahman as saying.
**He added the attacks on polio teams were more of a political nature than religious one. He stated that there were doubts in the minds of the people about the motives behind the programme.
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**Mufti Ghulamur Rahman recommended that the government should develop a comprehensive communication strategy and run a campaign with full force to remove the distrust about anti-polio campaigns.
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The minutes of the meeting stated that there was an agreement that the government should devise a realistic communication strategy and run a campaign for dissociating the anti-polio activities from the Abbottabad operation.
“The government should denounce the use of health and other social welfare activities for political and espionage purposes,” states the minutes while quoting the cleric as suggesting.
According to the minutes, the religious scholars said the federal government should be asked to call upon the United Nations to ban the use of health services for political or spying purposes.
**“Religious and political leadership should publicly support the polio eradication programme under the banner of the Department of Religious and Minority Affairs and columnists of the widely circulated newspapers should be effectively engaged in writing in favour of polio eradication programme,” the religious scholars suggested in the minutes.
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The meeting called for the need to engage the district and tehsil Khateeb so that they could build confidence among the Ulema about the polio eradication programme through holding seminars.
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
^ cooked up charges. On supporting some terrorist organization. We know why he has been jailed.
CIA? Or Taliban?
Re: US links issuance of $33 mn aid with Dr Shakil Afridi's release
Partially Shakeel Afridi is responsible for this, I am reproducing an article more than an year old. We discussed this right after the raid. Having said that there are other myths attached with polio vaccines like impotency etc......
The rate with which our population is growing, I think the yahoodi sazish of making the Pakistani population impotent has failed miserably.
We should, however, request WHO to add something to the vaccines which might aid birth control efforts.