US Intell: ISI killed Saleem Shahzad

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It is popular belief that he wasnt killed on purpose. he supposed to be tortured only but since he had some pre existing medical condition which agencies didnt know about that caused his death.

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true

but i don't need the biggest lair on planet to tell me that...on contrary now that they have spoken about it, i doubt ISI have anything to do with the murder of shazad....

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The army is also destroying Pakistan. It has an organisation is holding Pakistan at ransom. They are on par with the politicians. The greed of the army generals is coming before the rest of Pakistan.

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I can not believe but Mike Mullen has come himself on the issue.
Mullen: Pakistan Gov Sanctioned Death Of Saleem Shahzad
www.huffingtonpost.com

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You won’t believe it because your relatives are in ISI and ISI is not going to tell their relatives what they do at work.

The moment they speak of what we guess they cast a shadow of doubt, why can’t they stay out of it for once?

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I am afraid Captain 1
If you read once all the topics at PA , Many other important issues are not being discussed but all these are telling a different story, Perhaps they have started the final phase and we can not conclude.
Keep in mind that our top elite has kept every thing out of country even their children.

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I also thought it was ISI. That's what HRW was saying. But today I read Mike Mullen's statement saying that it was not ISI but the government?!

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I know, that is the most scary part for me.

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I don't understand why Mullen said this. Even if he believed it, what did the US achieve by making this remark?!
If he did not like a decision by the government then he should have talked directly to them, instead of saying this all out in the media.

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That is what we have been trying to say that ISI has links with Jihadi's/ Jihadi lovers.

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:hehe:

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It is a reply
Think before you speak, Pakistan tells US
www.pakistantoday.com.pk

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^^ Strange govt we have, one someone mulls ISI, then govt keeps it mouth shut, rather have a sheepish grin on its face and the supporters of govt. jump up and down saying we said so, we knew that, but when some one blames them, then the cooperation in WOT is endangered...

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The ISI and the Pakistan Army are a curse on Pakistan.

The ISI is a security threat to Pakistan, and should be disbanded and replaced by professional intelligence personnel, ie.CIA,MI6 etc.

God save Pakistan from these corrupt killers.

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I guess the real threat is incompetent politicians whom people worship... the head of political parties who first play in the hands of local and foreign power makers and then who ever pay them most, they act accordingly just like a prostitute, may be prostitute is better than the politicians we have, may be a prostitute in Heera Mandi is ten time better then the Bhuttos or Sharifs we have got as most of the prostitutes sell their body but the politicians whom most of us consider as gods sell every thing they have...and then their cheap agents come forward and blame security agencies...

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As if CIA/MI6 types are any angels, you would probably call ISI as party of angels if you knew what CIA/MI6 do :hehe:

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The CIA, MI6, Amercian Army etc, are not angels to the enemies of their own country.

When CIA.MI6, US/UK Army deal with their own country-

Do they sell their countries nuclear weapons? No, /Pak Army does.

Do they kill their own people in their thousands? No, ISI/Pak Army does

Do they kill their own leaders? No, ISI/Pak Army does

Haven’t CIA prevented all terrorist attacks after 9/11? - in Pak they occur every week!

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**ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s military on Saturday rejected as “baseless” stories in the New York Times accusing it of colluding with militant groups and Pakistani intelligence services of approving a journalist’s killing.
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A statement quoting spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said the general “rejected the allegations levelled against the Army and ISI, and described them as baseless and mischievous”.
Abbas drew parallels between these stories and the newspaper’s reporting in the run-up to the Iraq war, some of which it later retracted.

“**In recent weeks the NYT has continued to publish wild claims presented as news stories on the basis of information supposedly provided by unnamed US officials,” **he said in the statement.
“If the paper continues with its vilifying campaign without any concrete evidence, I am afraid at some point it may end up expressing its deep regret the way it did in the case of its Iraq coverage,” he said.
On Monday the New York Times reported that US officials believed Pakistan’s powerful Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) was behind the killing of a journalist who reported that Islamist rebels had infiltrated the military.
The newspaper quoted two senior officials as saying that intelligence showed that senior members of the ISI ordered the killing of Saleem Shahzad, 40, to muzzle criticism.

Top US military officer Admiral Mike Mullen later echoed that report, saying Islamabad may have sanctioned Shahzad’s killing.
An ISI official said last week that Shahzad’s “unfortunate and tragic” death was a “source of concern for the entire nation” but “should not be used to target and malign the country’s security agencies”.
**In another report Monday, the New York Times said the Pakistani military continued to support a variety of militant groups as part of a strategy of using proxies against its neighbours and US forces in Afghanistan.
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Citing an unnamed former prominent militant commander, the newspaper said that this man’s group was supported by the Pakistani military for 15 years.

The commander was quoted as saying that militant groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba, blamed for the 2008 Mumbai attacks, which killed 165 people, were run by religious leaders, with the Pakistani military providing training, strategic planning and protection.

Pakistan has assured the United States it has ceased supporting militant groups on its territory, and Washington has given Islamabad more than $20 billion in aid over the past decade for its help with counterterrorism operations, the paper noted.

Another US newspaper, the Washington Post, **said Wednesday the architect of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons programme claimed that North Korea paid bribes to senior Pakistani military officials in return for nuclear secrets in the 1990s. Pakistan’s foreign office dismissed the claims as “baseless”.
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The two uneasy allies have been increasingly divided since the US commando raid in May that killed Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden in a compound near Islamabad, where he had been living for years.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/07/09/pakistan-military-rejects-mischievous-nyt-reports.html

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And top of the list of their demands,
Pasha must go, says NYT

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Almost every day, some people get abducted, their tortured bodies turn up in Balochistan, and many incidents that occur in Fata which dont get any media coverage. This is in addition to the bomb blasts that occur throughout the country every now and then. The ISI which has ubiquitous role in all terror activities around the world, cannot save its own people from terrorism. Ironic isnt it?

Every country in the world had terror incidents like Spain, UK, US and even India, all these countries picked up their act together and nothing has happened there. In Pakistan there is nothing of the sort of intelligence, if the intelligence is aiding the terrorists in those acts is another thing.