US, India and Israel to take out Pakistani Nuclear sites if Pakistan falls apart

Re: US, India and Israel to take out Pakistani Nuclear sites if Pakistan falls apart

he wont come back here to answer this one

legged it as, as he did in other similar threads

Re: US, India and Israel to take out Pakistani Nuclear sites if Pakistan falls apart

I wonder if some of you are mixing up what the actual threat is. Nobody (India, Israel or USA) is threatening or likely to threaten Pakistan for its existence.

On the contrary all three of them view Pakistan as a potential threat - not the conventional way but as the most likely place that will let nuclear material fall into the hands of non-state enemies of the world namely jihadi terrorists.

I will be very surprised if any of you claim or think that this above threat is unfounded. With the amount of collaboration that has now been proven (and even tacitly admitted by the government of Pakistan) between jihadis and Pakistani government, military and intelligence establishments, it is an absolute medium to high probability threat and therefore it will be foolish of India, Israel and USA not be putting place strategies to deal with that.

Why Israel? because a large number of muslim jihadi outfits want to remove them as a country. The muslim jewish hatred is a well known thing.

Why India? because a section of Pakistan (though diminishing now) has been educated to believe India wants to obliterate them and undo the partition' another small section absurdly has been brainwashed to thinking India is anti-muslim in spite of hosting the 2rd or 3rd biggest muslim population! and a tiny section also think they should not let the absurd claim on Kashmir go away!

Why USA? because 2/3 of the 9/11 terrorists were trained in Pakistan; the money for that and other future attacks were sent form Pakistan; in spite of being a front line state in the war on terror, parts of Pakistan are being used as the conduit for weapons and source of training for terrorists from all over middle east! To such an extent that even the govt of Pakistan admittedly finds it difficult to control and eliminate these jihadi establishments. USA has every right to feel vulnerable - what if nuclear weapons or material are sold by some hig placed chain of Pakistani military-government-intelligence establishments? The A.Q.Khan history of disgrace only adds proof to this assessment.

It is sad but I think it is absolutely necessary for US India and Israel to collaborate to manage Pakistan in this respect, for their own well being. They should create scenario where China also participates but that is not a necessity.

Re: US, India and Israel to take out Pakistani Nuclear sites if Pakistan falls apart

StirCasy,

I think It's not about who is missing what, more about who believes in what.
I don't believe in Jihadi masterminds. There is no threat like Al Qaeda, which I believe is all a man (USA) made. Yes, there are militants and yes there are militant groups, but to believe in a huge Network linked to several groups rejoining them to one and letting them fight on some words like Fatwas, Kafirs, INfidels is all propaganda.
The West wishes to have a more moderate Islamic (Muslim) Society, thus re-writing (changing) the Holy Book (Quran), so that all the unsuited parts would be left out or even exchanged with some new verses. More or less It would solve their social integration problem, since many radicals take the Quran by chapter and verse. Not understanding It's secrets and deep meaning. Quoting Hadiths (the onces they suit them best) to justify unjust behaviour at times. This is not Islam only. THere is much more to it, but no one could make the West hear Muslim Voices. And then exactly those countries listed above play and played a huge role in degrading Islam and Muslims.
It's been a choice between the devil and the deep sea.

Re: US, India and Israel to take out Pakistani Nuclear sites if Pakistan falls apart

^ I agree with what you have said. Problem is, even though there may not be a (remember old mandrake comic books and the vice syndicate?) a huge global network amongst terrorists, it doesn't require such a formal organization. Even small groups are sufficient as long as there is a base (sympathetic population and cooperative local governments) for these cowards!

As to Quran etc - of course everyone uses it for their own purpose. Unfortunately a large section seem to believe the violent interpretations.

The one part I don't agree with you is where you seem to believe that the 'west' wants to rewrite islam. Apart from the fact that there is no such thing as the 'west', US and Europeans haven't exhibited any such serious need. Everyone is simply scared of some lunatic showing up with a strap-on bomb.