Re: US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
Tried for human rights violations? Saddam killed hundreds of thousands and was never indicted. The days of trials for human rights abuses are over. Nobody has the stomach for dealing with the aftermath. Like it or not, when you remove the authority structure from a country that resists authority structures, you have chaos. Today we had a bomb go off targeting kids playing soccer in Iraq. Things can and do get worse.
Re: US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
well eventually saddam got what he deserved right? the same should happen to these guys in afghanistan, rather than them being part and parcel of the govt there.
Re: US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
OK, fine with me. Now who is going to remove them, forcibly I presume, stabilize the area, supervise the disbanding of the militias, and arrange for trials? Norway? The French? Doubtful. When it comes to things like this, if the US and the UK don't do it, it does not get done. Occasionally the French will send 9 or 10 soldiers to Haiti, or Africa. The Russians can't find their butts with both hands. The Chinese can't do it.
So fine, have at it. I endorse any plan whatsoever to remove warlords.
Re: US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
Hey thats not my job :) peopl get paid a lot and all to do all that. So let them figure it out. This mass pardon is only going to come back and bite afghanistan in the butt.
The dilemma was the same last time around, and these gusy were left to figure out what they wanted to do, resulting in a bloody civil war that in my view destroyed afghan infratsructure much more than the soviets did.
So now, sure, lets postpone the problem, give them mass pardons, and then walk away hoping that this was a learning experience for them and that they will not get into
just remember, while these guys have competition from bathtub meth makers and central american drug cartels, its the coke from their areas that will eventuallt flood the market, again. which is just one issue
as long as these ppl are around, that country is not going to be stable.
PS: yah so the rest of the gang wont do jack, thats why its imperative that US and UK lead this
Re: US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
I remember a similar post before the Iraq invasion.. all about how Iraqis were so fed up with Saddam and how they'd be relieved to see the troops yada yada yada...
we all know how that turned out..
OG is now on a new mushroom trip.. 'control the straits of Hormuz' .. yea sure.. let's see how u feel pumping $10 a gallon gas pretty soon...
Re: US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
Funny, I remember a lot of pundits here predicting that US troops would never prevail in Afghanistan too. Not many guppies predicted a shia-sunni civil war either. Iran is a different case. They are a modern society, and the US would look to achieve very limited objectives. Not a single US soldier would set foot on Iranian land, just select things going boom.
And, historically the Iranian middle class overthrows it's leaders when business is threatened. Sanctions may well work. On the other hand, what is to stop Bush now? One big incident in the Gulf, and things could willingly escalate. Go ahead President Nutjob, make my day. Nutjob talks the talk, but he is all bluster. The Iranian people would betray him in a minute if they were facing a decade like Iraq or Afghanistan.
Re: US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
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It depends on what your definition of prevail is. most ppl here had said that US will blow the crap outts the Taleban, but due not get rid of them, and that Al kayda will continue on too. Right now taleban fuding is coming from drugs produced in the lands of warlords that are supposedly NATO allies now..so I dont xactly know how much if a success it has been. In terms of beating the crap out of taleban and forcing them to run wearing burqas, it has been a phenomenal success.
Many ppl predicted a civil war, not just shia sunni, but also kurd.
But the people who did not predict it, probably are at the same intelligence level as our planners who did not predict it or plan for it either. what do we pay these guys for anyways?
Re: US funds terror groups to sow chaos in Iran
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It's amazing to see how some people can suffer from forgetfulness. Isn't it what Zionist regime thinking when it invaded Lebanon?
And also, remember Iraq?
Looks like some people need some more beating before they could learn a lesson.
Unfortunately, these evangelical lunatics have lost control of American policies now. too bad. hehe