1 October 2004: The Bush administration has conveyed to General Parvez Musharraf during his recent New-York visit to downsize the Pakistan army to between 2-2.5 lakh, turn it into an anti-terrorist paramilitary force within five years, and that Pakistan’s security vis-à-vis India would be guaranteed by the US as its MNNA partner.
The downsize formula contained in a US South-Asia policy paper prepared more than two years ago was handed to General Musharraf before he went to meet president George W.Bush, and America has said it will fund the training and rearming of the transformed Pakistan army, while at the same time ensure a solution to the Kashmir dispute.
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Source: Newsinsight.net
US for downsizing Pak army
1 October 2004: The Bush administration has conveyed to General Parvez *Musharraf during his recent New-York visit *.....
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Ha! Another Bharati Shankar Acharya is born who posts all the hot-air (bakwaas) released from Saudis and Hindians.
When was the "recent trip" and how come the news shows up on the gup board now on November 18th Pakistan's time? There can be one simple reason! Absolute hate for the Pak army and deep rooted filthy attitude about Pakistan.
Thank Mr. Shankar, for bringing us news from the Bharati Bhonpoo the insight.net.
well not new bro. but think about what the kuffar plan. what u say pak army is just pak army not muslim army, coz muslims are one brother hood, how do pak army stay in barracks and watch muslims bleed, so is the case with every muslim country coz they think it nationalistic way.... and please dont call names to brothers . Ma Salam
I say why not, it's not as if the Na-Pak army will ever gather enough balls to actually fight, and that too against someone other than their own people.
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...but think about what the kuffar plan. ....
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The first order of the day is to see what is the plan for Pakistan. We can all talk about the "kuffar" plan for the next 1000 years with no result whatsoever.
Planning for Pakistan is how to improve its economy, provide jobs in the country, improve education standard so that Pakistanis become useful and productive citizens.
While we all concentrate on improving the lot of Pakistanis, please ignore the Hindian and Saudi hot-air. It simply is distracting from our struggle for the betterment of Pakistan.
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The first order of the day is to see what is the plan for Pakistan. We can all talk about the "kuffar" plan for the next 1000 years with no result whatsoever.
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‘Umar radhiallahu anhu once said that “Any Muslim who doesn’t care about what the enemies of Islam prepared against him, nor does distinguish between what is Jahiliyyah and what is not, he is not a Muslim.”
Now have a look what Kuffar say
"The point at issue is that Turkey has been destroyed and shall never rise again, because we have destroyed her spiritual power: the Khilafah and Islam." - Lord Curzon, British Foreign Secretary, after the abolishment of the Khilafah by Mustafa Kemal
and so our leaders........present or past
"His (Mustafa Kemal) death has come as the greatest blow to the Muslim world. (...) In Kemal Ataturk the Islamic world has lost a great hero. With the example of this great man in front of them as an inspiration, will the Muslims of India still remain in quagmire?" - Qaid-e-Azam Jinnah 1938: Presidential address to League Convention
The master of Shuhada is Hamzah & a man who challenges an oppresive ruler, ordered him (to do good) and forbids him (from doing evil) and is killed by him. - sahih bukhari
so will u make pakistan a better place when democracy is there which contradicts islam and leave brothers bleed in kashmir, pak is neighbour so isnt it a responsibility, it is the rulers who are agents of british and america.
‘Umar radhiallahu anhu once said that “Any Muslim who doesn’t care about what the enemies of Islam prepared against him, ....
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Ok! budd!
Don't ever try to improve your own economic situation. Always recite what Kuffar are saying. Take lots of pictures and put them on Islamic websites. Happy now?
p.s. pretty soon you will be the livebait for the US
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I say why not, it's not as if the Na-Pak army will ever gather enough balls to actually fight, and that too against someone other than their own people.
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If anything, the major international objection concerning the pak army is that they have too many balls (excuse the expression :)), if u remember Kargil and '65
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p.s. pretty soon you will be the livebait for the US
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And Allah (SWT) says in Sura Annisa 138-139: "To the hypocrites give the glad tidings that there is for them (but) a grievous pentalty; yea to those who take for friends unbelievers rather than believers: is it honour they seek among them? Nay, all honour is with Allah"
To preserve the Muslim home-lands and to protect it from the Kuffar is fardh, and no dispute in this. And the Muslims to rise to renounce the Kuffar and to throw them out of the Muslim lands is also a sharia fardh, Allah (SWT) says: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter". (Albaqara 190/191)
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...."Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, ....
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Precisely why we had to kick some A$$ in Wazirastan. Those Mullahtic idiotics killed innocent Pak-soldiers. These Mullahs even mutilated dead bodies of Pakistanis. Damn tribals!
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.... yea to those who take for friends unbelievers rather than believers, ....
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yes. Mullahs take for friends Arrabob hypocrites rather than peaceloving Pakistanis.
These Mullahs bomb Pakistani-Shia mosques, harass Pakistani-Ahmadis, and kill Pakistani-Christians. Damn Mullahtic idiotics.
During the past five years of the Musharraf regime the type of political, economic and religious damage that has been incurred by Pakistan and its people is unprecedented, more damage has been done than any of his predecessors’ rule. It was during Musharraf’s tenure when Pakistani land was used for massacring Muslims and destroying Afghanistan; a U-turn was taken on the Kashmir issue by declaring Jihad as terrorism; scientists and doctors were abducted; more than 500 Muslims were sent to Guantanamo Bay’s torture cells; complete silence was observed on carnage of Iraqi people and horrifying pictures of Abu Ghraib prison; a vote was casted in favour of legitimising US occupation of Iraq in the Security Council; hundreds of thousand people were pushed below the poverty line in Pakistan and our own people were bombed indiscriminately in Wana and civilian casualties were unfeelingly termed as “collateral damage”.
It was none other than Musharraf who tried to eliminate the concept of Jihad in the new generation and to quash their desire to stand up against oppression by changing the curriculum; he stated the acceptance of the illegitimate existence of usurper Israel; he sold the sons, daughters and wives of the Mujahideen to the inhumane Americans for a petty reward; he attacked Islam under the guise of Hudood and Blasphemy laws; he granted permanent bases to American forces; provided full assistance to FBI to raid houses; and encouraged the spread of immorality, obscenity and the Hindu culture.
That is what we muslims are fighting, I dont know which side are you on.
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If anything, the major international objection concerning the pak army is that they have too many balls (excuse the expression :)), if u remember Kargil and '65
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KARGIL :D WHoever said that Pakistan army did anything in kargil. Till date the official version is that it was only Mujahideens (though that's another matter that under pressure from the families of NIL Pakistan government had to announce some posthumous awards). Talk of balls. People with balls accept what they do, whatever the outcome or outfall of that action be.
Please lets not start with Kargil. It's common knowledge that it was arguably the biggest blunder ever committed by our Na-Pak Army. Considering their history, that's quite a feat!
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.... Kargil. ...was arguably the biggest blunder ever committed by **our Na-Pak Army.* ....
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Na-Pak Kabuli Kommies are now claiming to own Pak army as well? Great!
These Kabuli Kommies destroyed Kabul, Kandhar, and Jalabad. Now they want to destroy Wana, Kohat, and Peshawar. This Kabulie Kommie Kabal (KKK) is hell bent on burning and pillaging Pushtoon lands. May Allah punish these Kabulie Kommies and "explode" them in hell forever.
If anything, the major international objection concerning the pak army is that they have too many balls (excuse the expression :)), if u remember Kargil and '65
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It takes a lot of balls to do acts and then disown those who died for you. Very interesting.