US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

[Goliko]

US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’
Published: Monday, 1 May, 2006, 10:18 AM
Doha Time

HYDERABAD: The United States is looking for greater Baluchistan to surround Iran and isolate Pakistan and Afghanistan, a former Pakistani army chief has said.

Gen (Retd) Mirza Aslam Baig, who now heads the Awami Qayadat Party, said that the 1970-like situation was being witnessed in Baluchistan.

He was speaking at the ‘Point of View’ programme of the Hyderabad Press Club.

Baig said that due to mistakes of the successive rulers, the people of Baluchistan were suffering from a sense of deprivation.

He said that the Baluchis’ method of protest was quite different from other Pakistanis as they believe in taking up guns and going to mountains.

The former army chief said the first attempt to crush them was made by Ayub Khan, then by Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and now this mistake was being repeated by Gen Musharraf.

He said that the main cause of the Baluch insurgency was absence of democracy in the country.

Baig said it was written large on the wall that the government will have to go.

He sarcastically thanked US President George W Bush for giving a clear indication about holding of elections and restoration of a democratic dispensation in the country.

The former Pakistan Army chief said that the United States had decided to remove the Musharraf government as it has perhaps outlived its utility.

He said that Musharraf was standing on the threshold of history and the Pakistan Army was the only force that could guarantee fair, free, impartial and transparent elections.

Calling upon Gen Musharraf to hold free elections while remaining in uniform and then transfer the power to elected representatives, Baig said if Musharraf could do this, his name would be written in golden words in Pakistan’s history.

Baig said that new elected assemblies would have the power to elect Gen Musharraf as the president of Pakistan without uniform.

He said that a conspiracy was hatched in 1990 to attack nuclear facilities of Pakistan. – Internews

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[mercenary2k]

Re: US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

Aslam Beg is known to have extreme views.

In 1990, he refused to send Pakistani troops to Saudi Arabia because they will kill fellow muslim soldiers.

While one must respect such clear principles which Beg took stands upon, he is currently not thinking of actions that benefit Pakistan.

As for Baluchistan. The Balochis have no love for India. They want their rights, which I beleive it should be given to them.

Its taking a while before the military understands the problem but now they are addressing the issue

[Rahul67]

Re: US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

@mercenary2k

Aslam Beg is known to have extreme views.

As for Baluchistan. The Balochis have no love for India. They want their rights, which I beleive it should be given to them.

Where did India come? Sorry, I forgot the way it works....first name it just by sly... than wait for people to react and than turn thread in anti India thread.
Don't be so obsessed with one country only....
Thread is about what your friend of decades US, is doing, so keep to that...

[ssingh]

Re: US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

@Rahul67

Where did India come? Sorry, I forgot the way it works....first name it just by sly... than wait for people to react and than turn thread in anti India thread. Don't be so obsessed with one country only.... Thread is about what your friend of decades US, is doing, so keep to that...

exactly....he is telling as if indians eagerly want the attention of balochis.

[Captain1]

Re: US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

^ well, he might be taking into account the article he found from an Indian author talking about Baluch "freedom fight".

[infiniti]

Re: US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

@Captain1

^ well, he might be taking into account the article he found from an Indian author talking about Baluch "freedom fight".

And well, as you always mention in the other threads, lets keep that discussion for a separate thread :).

[antiobl]

Re: US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

@Goliko

US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

1..... that the 1970-like situation was being witnessed in Baluchistan.

2....Baig said that due to mistakes of the successive rulers, the people of Baluchistan were suffering ..

3.......Baluchis’ method of protest was quite different....

4.....The former army chief said the first attempt to crush them was made by Ayub Khan, then by Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and now this mistake was being repeated by Gen Musharraf.

5........main cause of the Baluch insurgency was absence of democracy in the country. .......

This Aslam $hite Bag is a hot air baloon ready to bust at any moment. All of his 5 reasons are "local", and he still wants to blame USA.

He doesn't say, what Balochis were doing when this $hite Baig was incharge of the army.

People like Hamid Bullcrap Gul, and Aslam $hite Bag are the source of misinformation of nth degree. Glad they are not part of Pak army anymore.

[Captain1]

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@antiobl

This Aslam $hite Bag is a hot air baloon ready to bust at any moment.** All of his 5 reasons are "local",** and he still wants to blame USA.

I agree with you on that, the only "blame" that can be put on US is hunt for "ALQ" which was probably the starting point of fire in Baluchistan this time.

[antiobl]

Re: US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

@Captain1

.....hunt for "ALQ" which was probably the starting point of fire in Baluchistan this time.

Hunt for Taliban is issue for FATA. Balochi problem is truly due to blackmailing by the tribals. As long as we "bribe" them so we can build roads and ports in "their" area, they are happy.

[Captain1]

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@antiobl

Hunt for Taliban is issue for FATA. Balochi problem is truly due to blackmailing by the tribals. As long as we "bribe" them so we can build roads and ports in "their" area, they are happy.

Thats what is happening currently. An year or 2 ago when our army "surrounded" an area to search for ALQ militants the army was then surrounded by militant supporters, which was hilarious in a way... I am pretty sure this happened somewhare in Baluchistan.

[antiobl]

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@Captain1

Thats what is happening currently. An year or 2 ago when our army "surrounded" an area to search for ALQ militants the army was then surrounded by militant supporters, which was hilarious in a way... I am pretty sure this happened somewhare in Baluchistan.

Nothing hilarious or funny about it.

Local version of police that is called FC (Frontier Constabalory) went to a house to catch some Arab rats.

Until that time, FC was never attacked so viciously so they didn't take proper measures of covering the whole village.

Hindsight is always 20/20 and we can all say FC men should have asked for Cobra cover.

Anyway 60+ Afridi men of FC were murdered in cold blood by the Arab slaves from Wazirastan. It was truly a sad moment in Pushtoon history, when bunch of Waziris" rented" their houses and sold their women to Arabs. Same Arabs then used these Pushtoon women (and women's pimp families) to kill 60+ Afridis.

Still that sad day has nothing to do with Balochistan.

[Captain1]

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@antiobl

Nothing hilarious or funny about it.

It is not funny but the way army spokesman described it was funny how pathetical the approach/response was. something along these lines "ham ne un ke gird ghera dala, unhon ne hamaray gird ghera dal diya, hum wapis agaye".

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Local version of police that is called FC (Frontier Constabalory) went to a house to catch some Arab rats.

Until that time, FC was never attacked so viciously so they didn't take proper measures of covering the whole village.

Hindsight is always 20/20 and we can all say FC men should have asked for Cobra cover.

Anyway 60+ Afridi men of FC were murdered in cold blood by the Arab slaves from Wazirastan. It was truly a sad moment in Pushtoon history, when bunch of Waziris" rented" their houses and sold their women to Arabs. Same Arabs then used these Pushtoon women (and women's pimp families) to kill 60+ Afridis.

Still that sad day has nothing to do with Balochistan.
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I still think that was the beginning, anyway we can agree to disagree :)

[Goliko]

Re: US eyeing ‘greater Baluchistan’

Well Balochistan problem is the result of a neglect of a very important issue...I would say Balochistan suffered more then NWFP with Afghan refugees in 1980's & 1990's....& it is still suffering...Hazara tribes never had a foot hold in Balochistan,now their number stands around half a million....Similarly with Afghan Tajiks & kandahari's...
It not only changed the demographics of Balochistan but the politics of whole province...