US creating problems for $4.5 billion gas project, trying to be a bullying ass

guys,

these fu_king ass clowns are now threatning to put sanctions on Pakistan, if we take part in the $4.5 gas project. This project which would bring FREE $600 million money every year for pakistan for doing nothing. Plus we would also fulfill our energy requirment by getting cheap gas of about $1 billion every year.

But the clowns are creating problems. I say Pak should tell the US to fu_k off and we wont help in their "war on Ter… " stuff , if they put sanctions on pak or stop economic aid.


Iron pipeline cannot be abandoned, US told

By Anwar Iqbal

WASHINGTON, June 12: Pak-istan is believed to have informed the United States that it cannot abandon the Ironian gas pipeline project despite a strong US opposition to the scheme, diplomatic sources told Dawn. The project was discussed in detail at a meeting between Foreign Minister Khurshid Mehmood Kasuri and US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Washington on Friday.

Ms Rice, who has publicly opposed the project, reiterated Washington’s position that the proposed pipeline, which will be bringing Ironian gas to India through Pak.istan, is against US laws.

The US Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996, known as ILSA, forbids more than $20 million of investment in Iranian oil and gas projects. The violator can be deprived of US economic assistance and may also face sanctions.

During the meeting Ms Rice is believed to have argued that even if the US administration gave up its opposition to the pipeline, there were powerful groups in Congress, media and academia that would continue to oppose the project and it will ultimately adversely affect Washington’s relations with Islamabad.

Pakistan’s response, conveyed by Mr Kasuri, covered both the economic and political aspects of the proposed deal. **Pakistan argued that it would earn up to $600 million a year from the pipeline, which is close to about $700 million a year Islamabad receives from Washington.

The pipeline will also allow Pakistan to import about $1 billion of gas every year from Iron. ** As Indian oil minister Mani Shankar Aiyar pointed out during his recent visit to Islamabad, Pakistan will have to import gas by 2010 to meet its domestic and industrial requirements.

Pakistan already consumes more per capita energy than India and has a high domestic consumption. In Pakistan, domestic users consume more energy than both industrial and agriculture users who are second and third on the list.

In India, agriculture has the highest consumption of energy, followed by industrial and domestic users.

The pipeline will also create a major industrial infrastructure in Pakistan, generating new jobs.

http://www.dawn.com/2005/06/13/top2.htm

Re: US creating problems for $4.5 billion gas project, trying to be a bullying ass

It is against the US Laws. Have you read the 1996 Sanctions Act? It clearly says no pipeline.

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"or stop economic aid"

Bite me ya beggar. You find a new source of income, from a country that you sold illegal nuclear parts to and you're pi$$ed that we might stop GIVING you $700 Million per year?

And, fighting the war on terror is sound policy for Paksitan, never mind the US agenda. Be thankful you have a rich uncle who can help you pay for getting rid of the violent radicals in your country.

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who the Fu-k cares about US laws ?

Us law is not world law. Us law ends in US.

pak will do what is in our country’s interest. Pak is nobody’s stooge. The us-pak relationship should be that of equal benefit.

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Yeah, until Pak can pay 700 million aid to the US, pak should keep quiet.

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listen the US is a very old daddy now. CHina is now the new sugar daddy of asia.

Plus the US aid of $3 billion is for 5 years, that is $ 600 million yearly. The iron deal with give $600 to pak for free for doing nothing for 30 years. The iron gas deal with also benefit India. It would creat new jobs, bring prosperity to Pak and India..

Plus we take part in US war to recieve aid in return. That us aid is not free.

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why does the US care about the gas pipeline project? scared iran might make gaseous weapons from it? see this where america shud be told to keep their abnormally large nose out.

on the other hand, sanction pakistan, an watch pak become a safe haven for the taliban in no time. all the past effort gone to ruins. oh well.

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I agree with PBH that Pakistan should do what is in Pakistan’s best interest. Somehow or other though, PBH has jumped to a conclusion that getting $600 million per year from a pipeline is more in Pakistan’s self interest than receiving $700 million per year from the US with the possibility of receiving even more money, arms, support, etc. in the future if good relations are maintained.

I’m not sure I understand PBH’s logic. :confused:

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"Plus we take part in US war to recieve aid in return. That us aid is not free"

It's not the US war - the terrorists are IN PAKSITAN. As OG pointed out, the US is helping you get rid of the violent radicals in your country.

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US AID? These aren't grants. These are loans. We don't need to take them.

Secondly it makes sense as it generates employment, then you increase the purchasing power of the people. In turn affects the economy yadda yadda yadda. The money multipler basically. So yeah it is alot more.

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seminole honey,

IT is still a US war. Pak is only helping the us, because of financial rewards in return. No country would harm its citizens no matter how bad, just cause some outsiders want it to be.

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"pak wud become a safe haven for the taliban"

Pak is a safe haven for the Taliban. Half hearted efforts aside...

Re: US creating problems for $4.5 billion gas project, trying to be a bullying ass

not really

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When US says no Pipeline, that means NO PIPELINE. Dunya ki koi Takat Pipeline nahee Bana Sakti (translation: no power in the world can build a pipeline). You can dream about it.

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dude,

do you know why all those countries are part of the us “allies of the willing” in Irak ?

They are all after financial rewards.

THe god dam Ukrain which was a semi-communist country a couple of months ago only sent its soldiers to gain financial politicals rewards, and not cause they believe in spreading democracy.

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hhahaha, The pipeline project will start next year. India pak and iron have all agreed.

There are also plans to carry the pipeline all the way to China, through pak and india !!!

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For you maybe, not for us. Remember we lived without the US for 10 years. We developed a nuclear program when the US said no. We went to war when US said no. We don’t give a damn about the US when it counts.

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Hey CM. There are only 4 or 5 taplines longer than 1000KM, I don't think it is going to happen in Pakistan/India/Iran. Oil does make strange bedfellows, but let's be real.

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Agreed there are few. However Pakistan has 3 pipelines in the works. However this does not include the roughly 10 to 12 pipe lines that are to be running through russia and turkey and what not. There are tonnes of them in the works. The plan is to suck the CIS countries dry and we should make our fair share.

There are no permanent friends only permanent interests. That is a perfect example here.

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I thought india was paying that money since it is the buyer here.