US cockpit pictures

Another example of precision bombing or precision targeting?

**US cockpit pictures **](http://www.channel4.com/news/2004/10/week_2/05_iraq.html)

It’s the most bitter battle in Iraq, the American attempt to subdue the town of Fallujah has been bloody and confused for both sides.

Channel 4 News has obtained video from an American fighter jet showing it launching an attack on a group of people in a Fallujah street.

The American military have confirmed to us that it is genuine. But it isn’t clear whether what we’re seeing is a massacre or a military operation in this rare and disturbing example of real footage of the fighting.

Chief Correspondent Alex Thomson reports:

For several days American and Iraqi forces have killed scores of civilians in Samarra as they seized the town from the insurgents.

For successive nights they have bombed Fallujah in preparation to do the same.

And once they decided to bomb cities they decided to accept the routine killing of civilians as the price for hitting their target.

We have pictures that offer a rare glimpse inside America’s disastrous attempt to seize Falllujah from the insurgents in April. At that time, there were reports of hundreds of bodies piling up at the hospital.

But until now, we’ve had little real idea of how American pilots go about bombing in built-up areas.

The Pentagon has confirmed the pictures show a cockpit video from a US Airforce F-16 fighter, shot in April.

The pilot tells ground control he can see numerous individuals on the road.

He asks if he should take them out?

Instantly he’s told to take them out.

The pilot locks the bomb guidance system onto the crown running along the street.

The pilot’s reaction: “Aw dude.”

Overnight, Channel 4 News received the following e-mail:

“This video is indeed gun film footage from a US Air Force F-16 fighter. The mission was not “recent”, it was in April 2004. This was a close air support mission, flown by an F-16 Fighting Falcon in the Fallujah vicinity, and under the control of a Joint Terminal Attack Controller serving with ground forces in the area. The JTAC designated the target and confirmed the hit.”

The confirmed hit happens incredibly quickly, just 32 seconds from the pilot telling ground control he’s seen the crowd to the deaths of thirty or so people.

The video grpahcially illustrates US rules of engagement in practice. Unlike British troops, if the Americans percieve anybody or anything to be a threat it is attacked, particualrly in Fallujah, particularly in April.

As Fallujah again comes into US gunsights many will want to know who were these people? Insurgents? Innocents? Running away from trouble? running to attack? Tonight a doctor who was at Fallujah hospital told us these people were innocent civilians fleeing from houses where they’d been pinned down by American snipers by running down the street.

The Pentagon says its chasing answers but has yet to explain why these people were targeted.

I have seen that video, and it is nothing like described. It can be viewed here with registration:

The explaination that goes with the video explains that the F16 had been targeting a known safe house and had already released the bomb. As the bomb was flying down, about thirty individuals emerged en masse and headed as a group down the street. The bomb was redirected mid-air away from the house towards the group in the middle of the street. the insurgents were headed in the direction of a fire fight with US Marines nearby. The pilot is heard asking permission to redirect the bomb from a forward air controller either in another aircraft, or on the ground.

The implication that this is a “massacre” you can judge for yourself, but hitting armed men in the street would appear to me to be safer than hitting a house.

I saw the video on channel 4 and they also broadcast an interview with a doctor from the hospital where the casualities were taken. The doctor confirmed that there were numerous women and children among the dead. Hardly the armed gunmen.

Now if you are a doctor in Fallujah, do you tell the truth and get killed, or do you say what the insurgents want you to say? Use your head....

Yup the channel 4 of UK were going to kill him. Try some other excuse. Next you will be saying that even channel 4 were forced to make all this up. In reality this is what is called trigger happy soldiers, which is typical of Americans.

since when do civilians march down the street in isolated groups during heavy combat?

women and children would be cowering in fear in their basements and bathrooms.

Yes, large groups of women and children frequently flee TOWARDS the sound of gunfire....

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*Originally posted by Ohioguy: *
Now if you are a doctor in Fallujah, do you tell the truth and get killed, or do you say what the insurgents want you to say? Use your head....
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Interesting, wasnt this the main reason to fight Sadam. Now Stars and Stripes fanatics still believe in censorship and dictatorship, while Sadam is gone!
A friend of mine is Doc in Iraq and he has told me many horrifying facts how the US Army is "operating" there and believe me he is American.

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*Originally posted by nikhil25: *
since when do civilians march down the street in isolated groups during heavy combat?

women and children would be cowering in fear in their basements and bathrooms.
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If something unexpected happens, in fear and shock you even die on spot!