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well what was a diplomat doing alone, in a crowded place and carrying a weapon?
as far as punishing him is concerned, keeping him aside being a diplomat even if he was an ordinary american our judiciary could not have sentenced him...
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moron did not hear about drone?? why did he have to use a handgun :pbg:
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He has diplomatic immunity, you can't do anything.
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countries can request other countries to waivediplomatic immunity. Pakistan should do atleast that, make it an issue.
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well what was a diplomat doing alone, in a crowded place and carrying a weapon?
as far as punishing him is concerned, keeping him aside being a diplomat even if he was an ordinary american our judiciary could not have sentenced him...
He was not "alone in a crowded place". He was being driven somewhere. Are you saying he should not even be allowed on the road? Undoubtedly he had a driver, and the other car from the consulate which rushed to help him was not far behind. The two on the motorcycle were armed, and did shoot bullets into the windshield. As for him being armed, if he had not been armed, he would not be alive to answer your question. The attackers were either going to rob the car or they were assassins/terrorists. Either way, Pakistan is better off without them.
And having been in the minority in many situations, believe me, when you are in the minority, you do not start trouble, you only react when it is forced upon you.
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Diplomat is just a euphemism for CIA operative...especially since he was carrying a weapon...
No immunity here...
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You mean this case should never reach to any decision? This is what happens when a Pakistani commit a crime. 
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I usually do not take part in such posts, and i am not here to take sides. Allah miyan knows the truth and HE punishes the gunah gar in one way or the other.
What i want to say here is, I see people more in anger cause the crime is done by an AMERICAN, we must not deny that these kinds of crimes have become so common in pakistan, if you talk about insaaf, what happened to those two brothers beaten to death in front of cameras? tab to saboot the? kia howa logon ka ghusa? yahan to it's a blind case, no one knows exactly what happened. i see media talking even louder emphasizing on an American doing it rather than emphasizing on a CRIME is being done, a crime is a crime, no matter a white or a black did it.
Yes he was wrong to keep the gun, but myself as a foriegner when i am being followed and being harassed, i also wish i had a gun, and when you have a gun you use it.
Some people saying no gun was found on the bodies of the bike boys, just ten minutes ago on DUNIYA TV the family of deceased admitted they had arms, and they kept arms cause one of their brother earlier was murdered, Now only Allah knows the truth.
Some of you are saying why he did not call for help on such a busy street, i bet most of you are being brought up abroad and roughly have an idea of such situations appearing here. if i ask you wud you have gone to help a foreigner calling for help to help, many of you wud say yes. BUT, it doesn;t happen here, you can;t experience it cause if it happens to you ( Allah na karey)it won;t happen to you as a foriegner,
your situation will still be different, and no foriegner will stop after firing, cause who doesn;t know people kill first ask later here. they wud have beaten him to death without even knowing what happened, most of them wud have taken part in it just seeing him being a gora.
I am sorry if a offended anyone, I am neutral, Allah knows better and HE knows how to punish the guilty.I pray for deceased's families, May ALLAH give their families sabar. and may Allah humen tofeeq de key we we stand against CRIMES and not the identities of CRIMINALS.
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I agree with holy moly’s post :k:
Also, reading the Geo News article I came across this hilarious line, which sums it all up really:
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^ amazing.
good post holy moly.
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December 2004/Jan 2005. Pakistan was a member of the UNSC when the issue of Ambassador Munir Akram came up in the US. If i recall correctly half of you who are talking of Diplomatic Immunity said there should be no need for it. A few of you said the Government should hand him over. Yet when it comes to Americans you guys all of a sudden speak of Diplomatic immunity.
In that case the Government of the US asked Pakistan to rescind the Diplomatic Immunity which Pakistan can do so in this case as well.
Lastly US cars in Pakistan are armored. That means unless you carrying heavy weapons you can not damage the car. They have level B6 armor - the same we use in Afghanistan. There is no way two guys on a motorcycle with an AK47 could even threaten the individual. The Armor plating is good enough to take a land mine but not an IED. So no light weapons would even make a dent in the matter.
We all go through 3 levels of training for areas that are hazardous. That includes diplomats working in these areas. The first rule is never to leave the armored car under any circumstances. The door locks are automatic and do not open individually etc. etc.
There is no way this guy was in an armored car and ran out because he was attack. Only a ****ing retard would do that.
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Vienna convention: Diplomats can not carry weapons. He broke a cardinal rule.
You never know Rehman Malik might have arranged special provision to let 'foreigners' (US) carry gun for safety.
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He must face the law of land...
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There is no way this guy was in an armored car and ran out because he was attack. Only a ****ing retard would do that
Furthermore
This guy shot two victims in the back... that is confirmed now.
I dont see why any guy would shoot a fleeing opponent. The guys running away battle over...
Zabardast is right American dude must face the Law.
It seems that in half an hour the innocent victims were declared as attackers...
It seems from eyewitness accounts and the following medical analysis that at least two individuals have been killed in cold blood.
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December 2004/Jan 2005. Pakistan was a member of the UNSC when the issue of Ambassador Munir Akram came up in the US. If i recall correctly half of you who are talking of Diplomatic Immunity said there should be no need for it. A few of you said the Government should hand him over. Yet when it comes to Americans you guys all of a sudden speak of Diplomatic immunity.
In that case the Government of the US asked Pakistan to rescind the Diplomatic Immunity which Pakistan can do so in this case as well.
Lastly US cars in Pakistan are armored. That means unless you carrying heavy weapons you can not damage the car. They have level B6 armor - the same we use in Afghanistan. There is no way two guys on a motorcycle with an AK47 could even threaten the individual. The Armor plating is good enough to take a land mine but not an IED. So no light weapons would even make a dent in the matter.
We all go through 3 levels of training for areas that are hazardous. That includes diplomats working in these areas. The first rule is never to leave the armored car under any circumstances. The door locks are automatic and do not open individually etc. etc.
There is no way this guy was in an armored car and ran out because he was attack. Only a ****ing retard would do that.
Report came in, the guy was coming after returning rented movie "black hawk down" so he was under the influence. :@:
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NO 
Okay seriously that so called diplomat guy commited murder.
I am seriously thinking theres a sinister aspect to all this… This is something most disturbing.
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dude bechara der gia ho ga....
We often for get how junglee we are..
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One of the journalist blogs on that Washington Post site says that this looks like an intelligence operation that failed.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2011/01/lahore_shootout_spy_rendezvous.html
A senior former U.S. diplomatic security agent suggested Thursday that the American involved in a fatal shootout in Lahore, Pakistan, was the victim of a spy meeting gone awry, not the target of a robbery or car-jacking attempt.
"It looks like an informant meet gone bad more than a car-jacking attempt,” said Fred Burton, a former deputy chief of the U.S. Diplomatic Security Service’s counter-terrorism division.
Early reports were sketchy. Many said the American, identified in the Pakistani press variously as Raymond David, or just “Davis,” had shot two armed men on a motorcycle “in self defense” as they approached his car in a robbery attempt. As the American sped away, another Pakistani on a motorcycle was killed, according to the reports.
[4 pm UPDATE: State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley identified the man as a civilian employee at the U.S. Consulate in Lahore, but said “the name is wrong.” He refused to provide further details at his daily press briefing, calling the issue “very sensitive.”]
A Lahore police official earlier told The Post that “another U.S. vehicle was traveling with the sedan and that the American then fled the scene in that car. As it sped away, it hit a motorcyclist, killing him.”
Pakistan’s GEO TV broadcast a photo of a broad-faced, 40-something man in a plaid shirt sitting in the back of a police car, who it identified as the American involved in the shootout.
**According to Burton, who worked on several major terrorism cases in the 1980s and 1990s, the incident showed that David “had outstanding situational awareness to recognize the attack unfolding and shoot the other men.”
“It shows a high degree of firearms discipline and training,” Burton added. “Either the consulate employee’s route was compromised by terrorist or criminal surveillance, or it’s feasible he was set up in some sort of double-agent operation, if this wasn’t a criminal motive.”**
David was quickly apprehended and surrendered a Beretta pistol and three cell phones, according to local reports quoting police. He remains in custody.
No immediate explanation was given for David’s presence in Lahore’s Qartaba Chowk area, a mixed commercial and residential where two major roads meet.
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^ That only confirms my suspicions too...
It sounds like the plot from a spy novel... so we get one diplomat shooting at another native worker and killing another two people in the spree....
This is Pakistan not Boggata!
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hmmm.. more like a page from 007 movies, the dimensions of the case is changed. I bet by now he is out of country.