US and Israel = Friends = ENEMIES of Muslims

Asalamu-alekum all.

“And never will the Jews and Christians be pleased with you until you follow their religions.” (AL-QUR’ÂN: 2:120)

and "…they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from their mouths; and what is in their hearts is worse…" (AL-QUR’ÂN: 3:118)

and “Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Book and the idolaters do not like that you should have [revelation] sent to you from your Lord.” (AL-QUR’ÂN: 3:105)

And, “…if you obey those who disbelieve, they will turn you back upon your heels…” (AL-QUR’ÂN: 3:139)

And, “…if you obey a group of those who were given the Book, you would turn back to disbelievers after you had believed.” (AL-QUR’ÂN: 3:100)

As you all know what is happening in Mid-east, and most of you have your own predictions on what will happen if Israel does not stop the killing of Palestinian civilians. Both sides are on the brink of a war. Israel funded and supported by the American military might is continueing its atrocities against the unarmed Muslim civilians. As the situation started to worsen, US has clearly showed us who they are friends with and who they are enemies with. Muslims should NOT look up to them as makers of peace, but makers of peace as long as we keep our heads under the Israeli feet. - "The moment we start to fight for our rights and agaisnt the atrocities, both US and Israel team up and brutually kill Muslims. To them meaning of human rights is that, when you(Muslims) kill one of ours its a violation of “human rights,” but when we kill numerous(100+) of your unarmed civilians it is not a “violation of ‘human rights’.” In Quran Allah says very relating to these statements that US-“peace promoter” has made -

"they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from their mouths; and what is in their hearts is worse…" (AL-QUR’ÂN: 3:118)

What is going to take to make you understand that those statements can only come from an enemy. When they do not acknowledge the killings of hundreds and thousands of civilians Muslims and only acknowledge the killing of the ones who are killing civilians. Then, they try to justify their atrocities and butchuring acts by using words such as “violence, terrorist, terror, fundamentalists etc.” in their filthy media campaigns against Muslims and the banner of Islam. Every where you see the TV stations are reporting a "one-sided-biased tales based on speculations, judgments and hate towards the Muslims and Islam.

“Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Book and the idolaters do not like that you should have [revelation] sent to you from your Lord.” (AL-QUR’ÂN: 3:105)

**They promote peace as they utter from their dirty mouths, where is peace when you continue to kill hundreds of people?

How is peace suppose to come when you cannot stop and continue to kill civilians?

How is peace suppose to happen, when you kill hundreds of under-age Muslim kids?

How do you expect a group of people to respond when you kill 100+ of their finest?

How would YOU respond when 100+ of your brothers and kin-men are killed by shotguns, gunships and rockets?

How do you expect Muslims to react, when you enter their holiest place with 1000 armed men? **

Mosque is a place of harmony and peace and tranquility. Non-Muslims are welcomed in Mosques all over the world, the difference is they do not go there with 1000 armed soldiers. But, what sheron did was very stupid and cowardly act, he should have NOT gone to al-aqsa Mosque with 1000 Armed men. Should he had gone without any army, would Palestinians have reacted the way they did. I DON’T THINK SO!

This on going violence and mischief Israeli side has got to stop, Israel is testing and trying to flex its military muscle on less defensive states of Muslim world. Israel should learn to respect Palestinian Muslims as Humans like them. They should and MUST understand that when one is killed from any side, the pain is felt equally.

Muslim brothers, the idea that US being your friend and “they” being peace promoters is nothing but bunch of B.S being thrown at your faces. The fifty years of mischief by Israelies and the atrocities that Jews/American Gov. has done under the name of Peace and justice shows that only Israel is America’s friend.

Some rulers in Middle East still regard US as their friend. The history of last fifty years shows that only Israel is America’s friend, all others are interests, and rulers who stay closer to US are simply pawns in the game that is designed and preplanned for Israel to win.

Allah promises us victory if we are sincere believers. If we hold on to quran and sunnah of Prophet Mohammad, allah has promised us victory in any condition. We must come to Islam and not indulge ourselves in the colors of Non-Muslims and wrong doers. We must come to Islamic ways and avoid ourselves from the pleasurable things that mislead us from the path of true Islam. We put ourselves in colors of non-muslims by doing sort of things that non-Muslims do, that most of us find pleasurable.

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Allaah, the Most High, says in the Qur’ân, “O you who believe! If you help Allaah, He will help you and make your foothold firm.” [47:7]

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Burning flags and shouting death to Israel and US will not help in fighting these dogs. We MUST unite under the Islamic umbrella and form our own I-M-F= Islami-Military-Federation. Inshallah, we will.

PS: Sorry the post went little longer than I expected. Hope, you all had a good informative eye-opening read.

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V~V~VHe came, He saw, He conqueredV~V~V**

SURAH 7, AYAT 34:

And every nation hath its term, and when its term cometh, they cannot put it off an hour nor yet advance (it).

<USA,Israel(westners) are celebrating their honeymoon(S), its for limited time only as Allah says in Quran: "And every nation hath its term..." Soon we shall overtake them.

Allah-Hu-Akbar.


*V~V~V*He came, He saw, He conquered*V~V~V*

Soon...InshaAllah!

You cannot classify the US, the whole of it as christians. Unfortunately they favor the jews especially during the election cause of the strong hold of jewish lobbyists on the american political system.

AOA,
Yahya


Allah knows best...

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Originally posted by prince_x:
*Unfortunately they favor the jews especially during the election cause of the strong hold of jewish lobbyists on the american political system.
*

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I can't believe it - you are blaming the Jews for realizing the importance of the political process and becoming politically active after they realized how badly screwed they were during the WWII holocausts?

Don't get on the U.S. or the Jews for having influence. Get on the Muslims for not having the foresight to realize the importance of the American political process.

…they do not fall short of inflicting loss upon you; they love what distresses you; vehement hatred has already appeared from their mouths; and what is in their hearts is worse…" (AL-QUR'ÂN: 3:118)

Are you saying that Quran generalizes and calls all non-muslims bad .....this is wierd..you scream at non-muslims if they say anything against muslims that they are generalizing and have no problem when your book does the same.

rani quran is Gods words. HE knows you very well more than you know your self.

Allah has warned us against idiot-thick heads like your self. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. I HOPE! You just cant stand God telling us what is in your heart and what your intentions are.
You make excuses, oh we dont generalize, yeah right.


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[This message has been edited by Masoom Sheitaan (edited October 16, 2000).]

Oh Rani's back and she's offended by that "kuffar" term again! Maybe she would like to tell us what the the likes of the RSS think of all non-Hindu's in India?

Malik,

I am not interested in your usual game, tell us this and tell us that and we don't have to tell you anything or this a material for other thread...it seems that you are trying to escape answering the question..maybe too difficult to face the truth. You can keep on cutting and pasting and repeating yourself till you are hoarse....nobody is paying attention.

Shaitan,

Really...so the God you believe in teaches hatred....very revealing, doesn't seem to be much of God. I don't think God will teach hatred towards anybody....

Well Rani you've replied to my question as usual so I guess you are paying attention huh?

Now what do you think about the RSS proclaiming in its recent rally that :-

  • " Christians and Muslims should recognise their common Hindu ancestry."

  • " Christianity was less a religion and more about politics"

  • " Muslims in India should recognise Hindu gods as their forefathers."

Whar does that show about how Hindu's view all non-Hindu's?

Rani dear, its very useless to debate with you for long time, when I know that you will keep misunderstanding and misinterpreting Islam. You are nothing but >

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< Take it easy.

Malik sir jii, shove some sense into her, if you can.

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Malik,

You can ask all the questions you want ....you are not getting any aswers from me....I asked the questions about the verses from the Quran (which are according to muslims written in stone) obviously you cannot answer it...you are worse than RSS..it is funny that you keep pointing finger at them....they are just doing what you have been doing in Pakistan since 1947.

Watcher,

Closed mind....read the verses preaching hate toward non-muslims again....

Rani, you misunderstand everything. Its not worth it to explain to you, you come here with one mission that is to jeapordize debates and corrupt others who are debating.

You need an open mind to understand Quran, allots of people have.


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Rani"open mind" before anyone can answer your question can you tell us what the meaning of "kuffar" is?

73, who told you that RSS means a hindu religious organisation. I think, it is a nationalist organisation with predominantly hindu rights in mind. If they choose to be extreme in their statements that does not make it a thinking of hindu religion whereas words like Kafir and Kufr are openly used in your religious books defining punishments for such people (non-muslims to be precise)

Originally posted by Malik73:
**Now what do you think about the RSS proclaiming in its recent rally that :-

  • " Christians and Muslims should recognise their common Hindu ancestry."**

Though extreme in nature, I would say they recognise it or not but it is true. 99.9% if not all Indian/Pakistani muslims and Christians have hindu ancestry. I don't think that will make them a lowly being.

- " Christianity was less a religion and more about politics"

A little tricky statement though I would say it is true they are very much involved in politics as a religion. Even Pope use to wage wars not so long back.

*- " Muslims in India should recognise Hindu gods as their forefathers." *

I did not get the meanin of this. Could you give me a link for this so that I can read the previous and the later sentence to this statement to understand the meaning.

Whar does that show about how Hindu's view all non-Hindu's?

Again, this shows RSS view.

rss is not india and india is not rss
indians are not robots even in one family there is difference of opinion about religen politics. india was always and will be multi-cultural and multi-ethenic multi-lingual
multi-religious country. tell me one country
which has so many religen and languages like india. india is not a homogenous country like japan or china.

So care to explain why the ruling party in India is dominated by RSS members? including people like Advani - the Indian Home Minister!

I thought the topic was: US and Israel = Friends = ENEMIES of Muslims

Is it necessary to answer any and all tangent questions? Looks like this post got left behind long ago.

Astrosfan, you are one of the very few people I have read who has put such a novel idea of political involvement in U.S. There is a lot to be said on this but I can't go into it now. Getting to be 0200 hrs.

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Originally posted by Malik73:
So care to explain why the ruling party in India is dominated by RSS members? including people like Advani - the Indian Home Minister!
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Would you first care to explain how many Ministers are there in the government and how many of them are RSS members according to you? You will be surprised to find the truth.

dhir said -

" Would you first care to explain how many Ministers are there in the government and how many of them are RSS members according to you? "

Is the fact that the Prime Minister and Home Minister are RSS members not enough for you?