Yes, there are Pathan in Urdu speaking community.
How and why did they give up Pashto language and adopted Urdu?
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I have had some friends who have khan in their surnames, they claim that 2-3 generations back their family used to speak Pashto. They migrated to non Pashtun areas and lost their language. I have seen that most people who claim to be Pashtun have fairer skin as well.
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Its all about migration. Language is one of the first calamity when people migrate. Like if you live in USA for 2-3 generations, your next generations won't speak Urdu.
I remember one exception to this migration rule and that is Mughals in India. They kept on speaking Persian till the time of Bahadur Shah Zafar i.e. more than 3 centuries. But they were the elites and probably their mother tongue was Turkish and not Persian. Babar wrote his autobiography 'Tuzk' in Turkish.
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is this relevant to the thread? i am 
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Its all about migration. Language is one of the first calamity when people migrate. Like if you live in USA for 2-3 generations, your next generations won't speak Urdu.
I remember one exception to this migration rule and that is Mughals in India. They kept on speaking Persian till the time of Bahadur Shah Zafar i.e. more than 3 centuries. But they were the elites and probably their mother tongue was Turkish and not Persian. Babar wrote his autobiography 'Tuzk' in Turkish.
If they learn local languages instead of Persian they might win the hearts of local population. But the fact of speaking Persian is wonderful. Why did they feel to learn Persian instead of Sanskrit or Hindi?
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If they learn local languages instead of Persian they might win the hearts of local population. But the fact of speaking Persian is wonderful. Why did they feel to learn Persian instead of Sanskrit or Hindi?
I think there are two reasons why Mughals adapted Persian in India
(1) before Mughals, during Sultant period, Persian was official language of court in India.
(2) Mughals had close ties with Iran and its rulers, where Persian was dominant language.
They did learned local languages, but like today English is considered language of elites, same was the situation with Persian in sub-continent till British Raj started.
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lol the singer is a pathan from pakistan i believe and here he’s singing in urdu, just wanted to throw it in i guess
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lol the singer is a pathan from pakistan i believe and here he's singing in urdu, just wanted to throw it in i guess
Do you know other Pathan singers who sing songs in Urdu?
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lol the singer is a pathan from pakistan i believe and here he's singing in urdu, just wanted to throw it in i guess
ok no worries :)
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Erm, I’m still to find others, but here’s another song from Pashto to Urdu
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One of my biggest pet peeves.... People who claim to be Pashtun yet can't even speak the language. Za rukeigay :p
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Ethnically, i am Yousafzai (Pathan Tribe hence the word Zai) but i cant speak a word of Pushto well, i can say odd sentences now and then. But from what i know, we are Urdu speaking from UP. There's a special name Locals of UP has given to fair colored, tall and strongly built yet sophisticated Urdu speaking Pushtons in UP, Bihar, etc and that is ROHILKHAND which means mountaineers. They were like warriors from different clans i.e. Durrani, barag zai, marwat mainly yousafzai etc. which were recruited by Mughals to crush Rajputs and** Marhatas** and after that they found their peace in different parts of india. These ROHILKHANDS **were so spread out in world that you can even find their traces in **west Indies (Guyana) and Argentina.
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The Urdu speaking Pathans have roots from U.P, Bhopal, Rajasthan, Gujrat and Bihar.........most of them settled in India in 18th century, while some families trace their roots to earlier times.
No Pashtun will be able to lose his mother tongue in a Pashto speaking society.......But those Pashtuns in India were bound to lose their language, culture, customs etc within few generations there, they were living in a non-pashtun society.
Today the ones in Karachi identify themselves as "Mohajirs" and their political interests are different from their "ancestors". The Urdu Pathans are not Pashtuns, but descendants of Pashtuns. Just like Mughals of India do not look or feel like Uzbeks of Afghanistan and Uzbekistan, in the same way Pathans of India do not look and behave like Pashtuns of frontier and Afghanistan.
Interesting tid bit: Saulat Mirza in his old confessional video called himself Yousafzai from India, real name was Saulat Ali Khan