I understand if a non Muslim wants to learn about any Islamic matter, he can sincerely ask question within a thread and share his logical views. BUT it is unreasonable to jump into every thread only to make sarcastic comments and criticize when it is clear that the thread starter has only directed his questions towards Muslims to seek guidance related to a particular matter in the light of Quran and Sunnah.
My request to moderators to kindly consider behavior of such people, which is totally uncalled for.
If any non-muslim wants to criticize or disagree about any matter, he should start his own thread or share his views in a thread which is open to such debates, but KINDLY do not spoil the thread which is simply asking an answer to a question in the light of Hadiths and Quranic verses.
Re: Unwanted Sarcastic comments of People not sharing the same belief
I agree with you Br. STP.
This isn't a new phenomenon though. It has happened before too, and this is what i said some months back and i quote exactly:
Why is it that every other person that claims to want to learn about Islam, instead of learning, turns to teaching muslims what Islam should be?
It's not as if Islam needs them. It maybe that they need Islam is why they come to post in threads pertaining to muslim topics and Islam instead.
Generally, this is how it should work:
You wanna learn about Islam, you ask a question or questions. And then you wait for muslims who might know a thing or two to post a response. If you like the answer and it satisfies you, Good. If you do not like what you read, then you either confront them with proof from their own book (Quran in this case), or you just move along.
It's pathetic to see non-muslims refuting, dictating, and nitpicking Quran, Sunnah and the ways of Islam. First of all, their credibility on Islam is as good as a sitting rock because they're not even followers of the faith. People here have been extremely patient for a very long time.
So lets drop the disguise here. And they know who they are.
It's real simple. You wanna learn about Islam, and specifically from GS of all the places, then you ask questions and wait for others to answer them. It's not for you to dissect and dictate how Islam ought to be. Get it straight people.
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STP & Teggy; I fully agree with you however it is very similar to the instances where if someone wants to know more about other ideologies and people come out start bashing their views (hint: life1 Afridi's post about atheism).
Making fun of any religion/ideology is not a good behaviour.
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^ In Afridi's post, I understand it was my mistake, though my intentions were not of bashing or making fun but to share sincere feelings of a brother, as I have came across few atheists who changed their ways of thinking with that example.
Anyways, I would be more careful in future, and keep my thinking to myself unless it is the appropriate place to debate.
I am thankful that you pointed it out. It helps me in correcting myself as at times I might not realize myself at the right time.
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Will do, and have been doing this since ages.
please consider our limitations as moderators as we do have a job and a life. These forums also require lot of time so we can not monitor all the threads all the the time.
Plus Sarcastic comments are tolerated if they are within the boundries of decency and Rules of forum.
Rest as you know you can always pm or report a post :k:
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STP you are the most gentle man I have ever communicated with. If somebody who will ever be able to change my mind towards religion, will be somebody like you. Thanks bro.
These are open forums , nobody has control on what other is going to say in any thread . Even moderators cannot help it if the the comment has been passed within the forum guidelines. If someone is on a mission to defend Islam then they should not mind any criticism or bad mouthing of Islam , it is not a new thing it has been going on for 1400 years . It is good if someone criticizes and bash Islam out of their ignorance and misconception ., It provides us a chance to correct them and in turn those who might agree to their notions about Islam and its teachings.
Patience is the most emphasized virtue in Islam . We are humans, sometimes our patience thins out , mine does too but then there would be some other brother and sister of Islam on GS who would be more patient than I am and would take it over and provide the right kind of response and argument.
Interesting. Does this etiquette of not refuting apply to questions about other religions also?
I did not say do not refute , I said refutation should be practiced but emotions should be kept in check. As long as humans have a variety of belief systems then they are all prone to criticism .
It should apply to other religions and belief systems too, why not ?
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^ I should have been more specific - I meant the statement by another poster (Teggy said "It's pathetic to see non-muslims refuting, dictating, and nitpicking Quran, Sunnah and the ways of Islam").
Not that I object to what he has said - obviously practitioners of islam will / should know more about it than others. My questions are two fold:
1) doesn't the same hold for other religions also? For examples I should know more about Hinduism than any Tom Cohen or Abdel, right?
2) but how far can you carry this #1? Osama bin Laden by birth and practice is a muslim; so I should accept what he says as tenets of islam without refuting?
I am not trying to stir up anything and in fact know what Teggy means; bit there is always a judgement factor and common sense imposed limits that we should follow, to be fair.
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^Questioning is always welcomed. You won't see anyone criticize you for asking questions out of genuine curiousity and show of good faith. More often than usual, that's not the case. The entire discussion turns into an all out brawl to a point where the one asking the questions starts to dictate to others because he/she did not get the answer he/she was hoping for.
All views, perspectives, and opinions are welcome as long as they do not defame or hurt others' beliefs, insult others' religions, or religious figures.