Israeli troops killed two Palestinians in separate incidents in the West Bank and Gaza Strip early Wednesday – after **demolishing the homes of three **suspected Palestinian militants.
Palestinian witnesses say Israeli troops shot and killed a Palestinian near the Gaza town of Khan Younis, and another in the village of Saida in the West Bank.
Israeli forces demolished the home of a suspected Palestinian militant in Saida Wednesday after demolishing the homes of two other suspected Palestinian militants near Nablus Tuesday.
Israeli troops shot dead a Palestinian man outside a Jewish settlement in the Gaza Strip on Wednesday, Reuters reported, citing Palestinian witnesses. The witnesses and medical officials said the man, from Khan Younis in central Gaza, was shot as he watched soldiers at the garrison at the nearby Neve Dekalim settlement. The Israeli Army did not immediately comment.
Minime, do you really believe that suicide bombers are counting how many Palestinians are killed? They are more interested in 25K going to their family. I think it’s a bit too much. Their lives aren’t worth a penny. Good thing they kill themselves when they die. Their only objective is to kill innocent people, and to get 72 hours when they get to paradise.
By the way if it was just 25K then Israel would have done a better job stopping those bombings by paying them with all the aid money they get. After all Plaestinias are their subjects.
Sir ji, just for the sake of argument the palestinians are doing it for 25K or Paradise or 72 plus hours, they have chosen a wrong path for a ligitmate goal, so... they are lost.
But why the Israelis are doing what they are doing. and if the Israelis are right, why then the Palestinians can not do the same?
Minime bhaijan, when the first Israeli blows himself in a market square in Gaza with an intention of killing innocent Palestinians, I will change my views. A few knucklehead suiciders do not represent the majority of Palestinians. If that were the case, you will see their leadership strapping bombs and going off. These guys are motivated by hate and nothing more, and spectators and cheerleaders like Saddams of this world only add fuel to the fire. If they start respecting Jewish life, they might have a chance at getting their own state, until then, they can bugger off. Have you ever seen any demonstrations in the West Bank or Gaza (or in any neighboring Muslim state) against the suiciders? NO.
you are saying that until an Israeli comes and blows him self up it wont change anything, but the main question is why an Israeli would blow him self up? if he can throw the same amount of TNT from 2Km... he doesn’t need to blow himself up in the process, It doesn’t make sense.
and you are saying that only one side in this conflict is motivated by HATE,.....no, ... and we have spectators, cheerleaders and even financial supporters on both sides, so SADDAM is every where.
and the worst part is.... Respecting Jewish life, what is that? I thought we all want to live free, eat drink sleep and have sex, I never thought it was a jewish thing.
Sir ji, let me say that again, the mideast conflict is not political, nor its geographical its religious to its core, the day we stop smelling the roses (democracy and blah blah in Israel) and wake up to this reality the better.
and by the way Had it been political or economical the world would have invested billions in here to solve the problem.. as they are trying to invest in Iraq's war.
Minime Bhaijan, are you suggesting that the suicide bombers represent the sentiments of the Palestinian people? And bhaijan, I don’t see it as a war of religions, it’s about a piece of land, and until Palestinians can respect Israel’s right to exist, they won’t get a state of their own, nor should they deserve one.
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and by the way Had it been political or economical the world would have invested billions in here to solve the problem.. as they are trying to invest in Iraq's war.
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This statement indicates that you are not really all that knowledgeable respecting what has really happened on the ground. I can tell you from first hand experience that, prior to the start of the current Intifada, western business interests were, in fact, expending significant resources to help develop a cohesive economic infrastructure that would significantly benefit both the Israelis and the Palestinians.
There was a great deal of hope among SMEs (small to medium sized enterprises) in Europe and the United States that was matched by the hope of many Palestinian and Israeli businessmen that lucrative trade and business opportunities were possible as the new millenium approached. ALL of the progress that had been made has now been wiped out and it will take many years to redevelop the contacts and trust that had taken so long to build. In many cases, companies that had invested heavily in these hopes will never recoup their financial losses.
It is highly unlikely that anyone will again invest such resources in the area until and unless a full and comprehensive peace is reached between the parties. Given the track record, the financial and business risks are simply too high to commit any resources to the area.
As long as the Palestinian people think that $25,000 to $50,000 per suicide bomber is sufficient capital inflow to satisfy them, that's all they will get. Even the Pali's Arab brothers who committed billions to the PA for economic development have reneged and will not invest in a corrupt leadership that permits money to disappear down personal ratholes and/or that will only result in a return on investment that is measured in lives taken and lives lost.
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This statement indicates that you are not really all that knowledgeable respecting what has really happened on the ground. I can tell you from first hand experience that, prior to the start of the current Intifada, western business interests were, in fact, expending significant resources to help develop a cohesive economic infrastructure that would significantly benefit both the Israelis and the Palestinians.
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Actually that is not entirely true. On the EU and very few European companies were helping the PLO with development. There was no US FDI that was for the PLO alone. The US FDI private or public was usually Israel giving the companies to do something in the Occupied Lands with a secondary effect on the Palestinian communities.
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There was a great deal of hope among SMEs (small to medium sized enterprises) in Europe and the United States that was matched by the hope of many Palestinian and Israeli businessmen that lucrative trade and business opportunities were possible as the new millenium approached. ALL of the progress that had been made has now been wiped out and it will take many years to redevelop the contacts and trust that had taken so long to build. In many cases, companies that had invested heavily in these hopes will never recoup their financial losses.
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Exactly, i mean when a factory is bombarded by missiles and aircrafts, I doubt the companies are gonna take any chance at all.
Actually that is not entirely true. On the EU and very few European companies were helping the PLO with development. There was no US FDI that was for the PLO alone. The US FDI private or public was usually Israel giving the companies to do something in the Occupied Lands with a secondary effect on the Palestinian communities.
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At least you qualified your disagreement by saying that my post was not "entirely" true. I presume you must feel it is partially true.
As a representative of one of those businesses that expended significant resources and bet a significant part of its future on economic development in the area, I KNOW its true. You were probably studying for some exam at the time I was there on the ground. Obviously, you believe you learned more from your book than I did by living it. Oh well. Go Figure.
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Minime, do you really believe that suicide bombers are counting how many Palestinians are killed? They are more interested in 25K going to their family. I think it’s a bit too much. Their lives aren’t worth a penny. Good thing they kill themselves when they die. Their only objective is to kill innocent people, and to get 72 hours when they get to paradise.
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NYA..u seem to be pretty good at reading their minds eh ?
Do you distinguish between the killing of "innocent Palestinians" vs. the killing of those who are attacking Israelis with hand grenades? Are they all unjustified, even while defending buses full of Israelis?