Uniting Muslims on Eid: part 1 (Must Read!)

As most of us are aware the Muslim Ummah is split into many groups and it is a great tragedy that Muslims are unable to get together even on the occasion of Eid. In the UK we have seen the most confusion where in the last few years we have seen Ramadhan and Eid being celebrated by different Mosques on different days. So which Mosques and Ulamaa (scholars) are guiding the Muslims correctly and what is the solution?

There are three main groups and opinions; 1.Those who ‘blindly’ follow Saudi Arabia, 2.Those who follow the concept of the birth of the new moon and 3.Those who follow the concept of the sighting/visibility of the new moon.

The correct method is by sighting the moon/crescent i.e. the visible new moon and this is practiced by the mass majority of Muslims all over the world and has been since 1400 years, from when The Prophet (Peace be upon him and his Family) himself established the new month in this way. The reason being is that Allah Ta’la commands the law to us in the Holy Qur’an:
“So he who from amongst you should witness the month should fast it” (Surah al-Baqarah, 185).The term witnessed is used meaning we must sight the moon.
The Islamic Law states if one person (two for Eid) sees the new moon then begin the new month. This is the Sunnah The Prophet left for us and we should not ignorantly jump to other methods.

Following Saudi Arabia

In the UK we have seen that some people follow the Saudi ‘Royal’ family and announce the beginning of Ramadhan and Eid according to them. Islamically this is incorrect for the most important reason that all the evidences clearly state we begin Ramadhan and Eid according to the sighting and visibility of the new moon, not Saudi Arabia. There is not one piece of evidence in the Qur’an or the Hadith or any Islamic book to say we must follow Saudi Arabia, not even in any book published or approved by The Saudi Government. If there is, where is it written?

This problem only exists in the UK and some other countries in Europe. All other Muslim countries do not follow Saudi Arabia but have their own independent moon sighting committees’ who announce Ramadhan and Eid. Are the rest of the World’s Ulamaa wrong and don’t they know how to start the month? Most of the confusion here is caused by those Ulamaa and Mosques who blindly follow Saudi Arabia for political and financial reasons such as Regent’s Park Mosque who some people regard as a central Mosque. There are also other small Mosques who follow Saudi Arabia no matter what the status of the moon, disregarding The Qur’an and The Hadith

We also ask such groups that say not even 1000 years, not even a 100 years, but say 50 years ago how did people all over the world know that Saudi Arabia have announced Eid, What have Muslims all over the world been doing since and have they been wrong for 1400 years?

There can be no greater humiliation for those Ulamaa than the Saudi scholars actually saying themselves not to follow them. When the Permanent Committee for Fataawa were asked that should we begin Ramadhan and Eid when Saudia Arabia do? They stated in their public fatwa (legal verdict) that we should not follow Saudi Arabia and that everyone should begin the new month by sighting the new moon in their country. (Fatawah Islamia, Vol. 2, p113). In the same fatwa they included a reference of their Shaykh-ul-Islam ‘Ibn Thaymiyyah’ stating we should do Eid according to our own country. You should ask those groups why do they follow the Saudi ‘monarchy’. What is the reason?

The Sky is not clear so it is not possible to see the moon with the naked eye.

Particularly in the UK, it is not usually possible to see the moon with the naked eye. The objective and the intention is to start the new month and have the most accurate Islamic calendar possible and the Ulamaa have decided that it is beneficial to use astronomical calculations from The Observatory. It is logic and common sense that Islam allows us to use science and Allah Ta’la says “The Sun and moon follow course exactly”; He also said, “So that you may know the count of years and calculations”. It may be difficult to comprehend today but it was a Muslim scientist named al-Beruni who actually found and started the first observatory. It is not just recently that Ulamaa have acknowledged the Observatory, but leading scholars from the older times such as Imam Sha’fi, Imam As-Subki, Imam Ibn-e-Daqeeq Al’eed and others acknowledged astronomical calculations on this matter. Another important note is that the Ulamaa have personally gone to the observatory’s themselves before making use of them and it is also confirmed that since in use their information has been correct. All Mosques across the UK rely on the observatory for prayer times so for anyone who objects we ask why do they use such calculations for their prayer times? As Muslims we must not remain blind from the knowledge and existence of science, mathematics and other uloom which Allah has given us. Instead we should be using this to prove the truth of our Religion and for the benefit of Muslims to establish the truth and justice, in the way Allah and His Rasool please.

In an authentic Hadith The Prophet (Pbuh) said that the month has either 29 or 30 days and told us this 1400 years ago without the use of any astronomical information or observatory and this is also a challenge to the world’s scientist or anyone who denies The Prophet (Pbuh) had such knowledge to prove even 28 or 31 days in an Islamic month. The Holy Prophet (Pbuh) said:
“And if you see it then fast, and if you see it then break your fast. And if the clouds block then complete the count of 30 days of Sha’baan” (Bukhari Shareef, Muslim Shareef and others)
Islam is a clear and simple religion and a simple method is just to complete 30 days without all the complications. There are those who baselessly argue that at least if the moon cannot be sighted we should follow Saudi Arabia. Why? and even the Saudi Ulemaa said the same in their fatwa; to complete 30 days and they included the same Hadith. (Fataawa Ramadhan - Volume 1, page 56.) Again there is no mention of following Saudi Arabia.

Following the Birth of the New Moon

Another misconception that is important to discuss is the difference between the new moon being born and the new moon being visible. When using astronomical data from the observatory we have seen some groups particularly in Birmingham follow the birth of the new moon, and they have linked with groups who follow Saudi Arabia who find this baseless argument go in their favour as their Eid is usually 1 day earlier. The birth and visibility are two very different factors because the new moon is not visible until its age is at least 20 hours and in many cases even 50 hours after birth (usually when the angle between moon-earth-sun is 12 degrees). When following the observatory we must follow the ‘possibility of visibility’, not the birth.

It is said in The Holy Qur’an “They ask you about the crescent, say these are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage (Surah al-Baqarah, 189) In the verse it does not say ‘Mahaaq’ (new born moon), but it says ‘Hilaal’ meaning that new moon which is visible. According to the Quran and the Hadith The Mosques should announce Ramadhan and Eid according to the possibility of visibility of the new moon. In the time of the Sihaba (RA), it is obvious they followed the moon which was visible and not that which was invisible for the basic reason it can not be seen and its initial birth is only told by observatories.

This year Eid-ul-Fitr should be celebrated on Friday 6th December, Insh’Allah. This is because The moon will not be visible anywhere in the world on Wednesday 4th December, the first moment the moon will be become visible is on Thursday 5th December. Also The Hadith based on completing 30 days, further proves Eid to be on Friday. All evidences show Eid to be on Friday and not on any other day. If the Saudi Government and its followers in The UK announce Eid to be celebrated on Thursday, this is totally unIslamic and is against the teachings of the Qur’an and the Hadith; according to the visibility of the moon and also the completing of 30 days, they have only completed 29 days. We ask such Ulamaa not to sell their Imaan to the Saudi’s and have some fear of Allah. They are supposed to follow the Shariah law and teach it, yet they are speaking totally against it. The Muslim community in the UK is requested to follow the right path, to save and protect their worship, and reject all non-Islamic formulas and decisions. When you ask why do those Ulamaa do all this when they know the law, all we can say is that one day they have to answer to Allah Ta’la.

Part 2

Why is Saudi Arabia announcing Eid earlier than every other country in the world?

It may come as a surprise to some but for people who have an idea about The Saudi ‘Royal’ Family will not find it difficult to understand that in most cases Eid is done on the wrong day in Saudi Arabia. The following few paragraphs will prove by common sense and facts that Saudi Arabia, again this year will not be doing Eid on the correct day.

We have seen in the past that no other country or observatory in the world has said that the moon was visible and for some reason Saudi Arabia have announced that they have.
It is a matter of basic science and most people know that the moon rises from the west (the sun rises from the east) and for Saudi Arabia to see the moon it must have been seen by a country which is more west in order for Saudi Arabia to see the moon. Take for example this year if Saudi Arabia has announced that Eid will be on Thursday 5th December, no country west of Saudi Arabia will be able to see the moon on Wednesday 4th December for them to do Eid the following day on Thursday 5th December. So how is it possible that Saudi Arabia will be able to see the new moon?

The initial problem is that Saudi Arabia use a pre-calculated 30 year calendar which is based on the moon that is ‘invisible’. For two decades of monitoring the Saudi announcements by observatories and seeing the relevant print-outs it further proves they are starting holy events such as Eid according to the birth of the new moon, not the visibility. The initial problem was found when scholars from the UK visited Cambridge University and were told by Dr Yallop that the Saudi authorities requested a 30 year calendar based on the birth of the moon, and they still announce the Ramadhan and Eid according to that. Anyone can have a look at any Saudi calendar and see, even when they say they have been looking for the moon they still do Eid according to that 30 year calendar no matter what the status of the moon is. When checking the dates, one will find previous Holy months began by following the birth of the new moon, not the new visible moon.

If we look into the past announcements of The Saudi Regime it becomes very clear that they are announcing the beginning of Ramadhan and Eid on the wrong day, and it is easily possible to prove and refute each one. If we just take a recent example; on Thul Hijja 1422 AH / February 13th 2002,
The Saudi Supreme Court announced that the month of Thul Hijja (month of Hajj) will begin the next day (13th February), this is because they say that eyewitness testimonies saw the moon. However the moon could not be seen in Saudi Arabia on that 12th February as told by photographic evidence (taken afterwards) and various other Arab sources.
Along with the photographic evidence there are many statements by Arab authorities to further prove they began the month on the wrong day. Regrading this date The Arab Union for Astronomy and Space Sciences (AUASS) in their official statement by Mohammad Shawkat Odeh said “the crescent cannot be seen from nearly any region on Earth” and they further said “If the sighting of the crescent is what is necessary for beginning the month Thul Hijjah, then the first day of the month Thul Hijjah will have to be on Thursday, 14 February”. Also a statement from the Jordan Astronomical Society is very conclusive and leaves no doubt that Saudi Arabia announce the new months on the wrong day:

“It was not possible to see the crescent on Tuesday from nearly everywhere in the world, and this was confirmed by ICOP members who observed the crescent on Tuesday, where the crescent was not visible on that day from any country including USA, which is at the most western part of the world, that means if the crescent were to be seen on Tuesday from ONLY one country, then this country should be USA! Nevertheless, and despite all the scientific facts, and apart of the impossibility of seeing the crescent on Tuesday from Saudi, Saudi has declared that the crescent was seen by several persons from different parts in Saudi! Anyhow, this is not a new thing, Saudi had declared the same for Ramadan 1422 AH, but what the ordinary persons might not know is that the reports from the six official Saudi committees for crescent observation confirmed that no one saw the crescent on 29 Sha’ban. Nevertheless, these reports from the six official committees were rejected, and they just accept the claim of seeing the crescent from any person. (http://www.jas.org.jo/hej22.html#saudi)

Regarding an earlier moon sighting, a report from Salman Zafar Shaikh, a traveller with the 6 official committees for Saudi Arabian moon sighting said that, “I had gone with the Makkah committee. Neither we, nor the other 5 committees sighted the Hilal. But Eid was declared for Friday, January 7, 2000. (In fact moonset was before sunset in Makkah for Thursday evening). Later, an article in the locally published “Arab News” dated February 11, 2000 admitted that a mistake was made in the Eid ul Fitr date decision.” There are numerous other statements of this kind from other Arab countries too in relation to various other moon sightings but lack of space prevents us from reproducing them here. However the statements we have included should suffice for any intelligent and fair reader.

A very important note is that, the Ulamaa have said that because the people in Saudi Arabia have no choice under the current dictatorship so their Eid is accepted; also the same applies for the pilgrims.

One may question why would Saudi Arabia do Eid on the wrong day and why don’t they just change their pre-calculated dates. The problem is that they have an economic system based on those dates and also the fact they have strong political, economical and financial ties particularly with the USA and Israel. Even today the US army patrols the holy lands. In the world of economics today, we know what affect a minor decision can have or even a few hours, on September the 11th it took three hours for the US economy to collapse, what about a full day? Politics and money is being put before Islam.


The reason why The JAMA’AT-E-AHL-E-SUNNAT UK AND EUROPE and The SUNNI SOCIETY undertook the responsibility of producing this leaflet was because of how much confusion there is within the UK and people are ignorantly using non-Islamic methods. We must realise how important this matter actually is, as it is a matter of our own worship for which we are responsible for. We have shown the correct method based on the Qur’an and Sunnah and logic that our Holy books provide, in order to facilitate the possibility of Muslims in the UK doing Eid together and thus increasing Muslim unity. We would be grateful if you contact us regarding this leaflet or if we can help further in anyway.

Produced in association with MARKAZI JAMA’AT-E-AHL-E-SUNNAT UK & EUROPE (MANCHESTER BRANCH) and SIRAT UL MUSLIMIN.

For further information or any questions please contact [email protected]

The images mentioned in the text can be viewed here:

http://www.moonsighting.com/1423shw.html

http://www.moonsighting.com/moon.html#vc

summerize that plz, I cant read that much. :(

What is Eid?

And how does one celebrate Ramadan?

And you ask why? Saudi's see the moon first? huh?

ummm, well? do you they are lying?

Obvious to me that of course, visible at the equator, at that moment..desert country? isn't it?

They obviously can see a long distance.