undocumented Pakistani family

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MWAP

no argument about that, there needs to be comprehensive reform allowing for temporary worker visas.

But this case is different, they came here on a temporary visa, it was already extended based on humanitarian grounds. There is no precedence now.

so, even with immigration reforms if there is temporary work visas, and ppl on those visas refuse to go back after their visa term or work contract expires, then what?

thats the situation here, these people's visa expired, they need to go, and try proper channels for gaining immigration just like millions of others who go thru the hoops, do the paper work, stay in their countries, get background checks and all, and then come here.

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Temporary visa. Isn't it same as student, HB-1 and many other forum of documentation. If they want to stay, give them a chance. We should not be talking about expirations of documents rather their willing to be a part of the society i.e work, study and improve their life.

We are too stuck on documentations. Life is much complex than an expiration date. These people, I believe, will leave on their own when wanted just like many American-Pakistanis move to their homeland after studies, marriage etc.
I saw a report on CNN, a day laborer who came here in illegally to work. He said that it is only work that attacked him to this country and will leave when he can build enough income to support his family back home. Not all illegals want to stay here forever, they are here mainly because a job awaits them otherwise they won't come here to began with. I mean, who wants to live a life of neglected piece of trash existence? Moreover, if they can not feel the same way about America like they do about their home country they leave.

Btw, I am not encouraging breaking law rather improving it to a reasonable and rational standard.

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They need to go home. I have no pity. They could bury the daughter in Pakistan; why bury her here?

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MWAP

with student visa u have x number of years to finish your degree and specific allowable time for practical training, and then if your employer chooses to sponsor you for H1 and then for greencard tahts one thing.

if you are a student and u dont get a job where you are being sponsored, should you stay in the country illegally?

If they want to stay, they need to follow the same process that the rest of people follow...let me rephrase, they should follow the legal process that is laid out and needs to be followed which i assume majority of immigrants on thios board followed.

PS: temporary work visa that they are now discusing in govt is similar to teh saudi program, u ahve a visa working for one employer, u need to have the authorization and a job before you come over etc etc etc,a nd when teh job ends, u go back

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Please don't turn humans into X,Y or October 20 2009.

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Please don't have disregard for laws.

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It is not criminal to break immigration laws. Grow up, you are an immigrant too.

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. double post .

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Jealous and judgmental? Those are the wrong emotions my friend. If you want me to address you properly, you can start another thread explaining why you think you can freeload. I'll respond there.

How then do you define criminal?

I guess the point you're trying to make is all them law abiding citizens are the real criminals. Right...

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i'm sure there is a way to accommodate this family. yeah no one is expecting u to have any sympathy for them for losing a child. but there are thousands and thousands of illegal immigrants living in USA who came for 1 reason and stayed for another.

fraudia, if you people can shoulder the burden of an illegal war [by paying taxes and wht not] then whts so bad in suppoing this family indirectly? you won't be paying them any money out of your pocket nor government will ask u to pay for them. they may have made a wrong decision is burying their daughter here but lets not lose our humanity over a mistake.

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i'm sure millions of illegal immigrants have used this very same law to become legal. its all about money. buy yourself a top-level lawyer and see the law going down the drain.

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Excuse me? I was born here, and my parents came here legally. Immigration is fine, as long as its done legally. Man with a Plan, what a disappointment.

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sorry, but don't you think it was a little insensitive????

PS: BTW who would like to conceive their baby in a hospital, or are you talking about in vitro fertilization????:)

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Hyperactive, you must be living in a state where getting welfare, state medical, and housing would be easy. I have been denied state medical twice when i was expecting my second and third babies, and I am a US Citizen. Why?????? the illegal and undocumented immigrants get the piece of cake because of being illegal and working undocumented..... so usually no matter how much off-the-book $$$$ they are making, they show extremely low or no income at all and get the biggest chunk of welfare and government aid.

My household income was around 32k with a family of four (two kids in diapers and we were paying $1100 in rent every month for our two bedroom apartment). But since my husbands job was "documented".. he was paying the tax but we were getting nothing out of it.... why??? because at 32k we were still above the low-income limit... and many many thanks to illegal and undocumented immigrants, we had to buy private insurance to get our things done.

Sometimes, just because of the competition that illegal immigrants have created at the welfare departments the deserving and needy legal citizens are being denied the basic necessities. Besides, Latinos sitting in the welfare department tend to favor their Latino amigos more and try their best to get the other race/nationalities requests denied (yes ia m being prejudiced, but thats the truth and i have learned it the hard way).

As for this particular case and many others like this, i would say if the family is of any use to the US they should be given a chance... a grace period during which their capabilities to survive in the US are being evaluated. But if they are planning to sit at government and state expenses and do nothing or just a little, they should pack their bags and fly back to Pakistan as America is already overloaded with these type of people.

Now, as others said it earlier, daughter buried here or a citizen baby boy should not be an excuse to stay over here. They have lost the reason for which they were here. Either they go back, or they show that they will be a valuable asset to this land and not a burden.

PS: i also have a lot to say about the poora parevaar chain immigration, ummmm may be next time.

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Insensitive? Not really. I felt bad they lost their daughter, but that's it.

As for conceiving a baby in a hospital, I meant to say something else. Its an immigration lawyer thing: get pregnant at any cost and you're safe to stay.

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Congratz Lajjo you were blessed with septuplets! Mashallah!! :bulbuli: Mubarak to you and bhabhi! :flowers:

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Hyperactive, you're Lajjo????

Oye Besharam, go earn a real living for yourself and get off welfare. You spend all your time here scolding us about how we follow Islam, and you're living off welfare?!?

I'd normally be sensitive, but you're not an idiot. You could make a decent living if you get off this website and start building a future for your kids.

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orthodox muslims should leech off public taxes? great. i never heard that one before!

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Saieen

I speak up against the war, and I speak up against illegal immigration as well. No one is losing humanity here, when tooba was under treatment and the father was being deported I was among the people who send emails, letters and made calls to our senators' offices. That was humanity.

At that point in time the family had said that they only wanted to be here for her treatment and had no reason or wish to stay beyond that time. That is what was supported.

others are free to support them, and that is why I posted it here, you are more than welcome to contact this organization and offer your financial, moral or political support. I personally feel that groups like this need to focus on issues being faced by legal immigrants and refugees, by picking up cases like these they are going down a diff path.

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they would have apply for Canadian immigration. i think they definitly would gave them legal status n then move to states afterwards. :bummer:

p.s. ok i admit this now that i am bit naive about the current canadian immigration policies. but heay! there is always a hope. :ahaa:
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