They murder THOUSANDS of minorities, and still go about their day as if absolutely nothing has happned. After 3000 Sikhs, literally Thousands of Muslims murders in India, not a single person has ever been prosecuted.
What civilized nation could ever live with itself after the murder of so many people?
Not to mention the continued oppression of the Kashmiri people.
The injustice in India is palpable. Its everywhere. Corruption is rife.
Thats the character im talking about. Thousands have died at the hands of their fellow Indians, but the foam at the mouth at incidents like Mumbai. No one cares about the Muslims of Gujrat, but Indias govt is going mad over Mumbai?!?!?
That the Indian character. Rather disgusting.
What happened to muslims in Gujarat was indeed shameful. My heart goes out to them and their families. Narendra Modi should have been prosecuted.
As for the Sikhs, one of my colleague's father (a Sikh) was killed during the bloodbath against the Sikh community.
Yes, these events should be acknowledged.
I honestly believe India is moving forward under Manmohan Singh, and trying to do the right thing for all of its citizens.
And why did all Muslims came to be viewed with suspicion? Due to the terrorist tactics and camps adopted by Pakistan. Where was the money for 9/11 sent from? Where do all the terrorists go to for bootcamp and training?
So , yeah. the country that was created to preserve rights of Muslims has ended up ruining it for all Muslims globally.
What happened to muslims in Gujarat was indeed shameful. My heart goes out to them and their families. Narendra Modi should have been prosecuted.
As for the Sikhs, one of my colleague's father (a Sikh) was killed during the bloodbath against the Sikh community.
Yes, these events should be acknowledged.
I honestly believe India is moving forward under Manmohan Singh, and trying to do the right thing for all of its citizens.
Peace.
Good for you.
Once India prosecutes those guilty of murder, and acknowledges the rights of not only Indians but also Kashmiris, the we can consider India a nation we can befriend.
We Pakistanis may not be prefect, but as India stands today, we would gain nothing through our association.
Indians rightfully honor the principles that Mahatma Gandhi set for the new nation. But until Indians begin emulating those principles in spirit, what could we Pakistanis possibly expect to learn from you?
No. Pakistan didnt start this so called war on terror. Al Qaeda is not a Pakistani invention.
Pakistan didnt not invent militant training camps. Pakistan didnt start this war with America.
The issue of global terrorism isn't as simple as you make it. I suggest you do some reading.
All Muslims aren't being ruined by Pakistan. Pakistan didn't send anyone to blow up the world trade center.
Pakistan didn't create Osama Bin Laden.
Pakistan off course has been intimately involved in Afghanistan, but then so have a number of other countries, from Russia, to the US, to the Saudis, to the Iranis, to even the Indians.
Honestly, I dont think you have any clue what your talking about.
Pakistan was based on concentration of Muslims, not on actual numbers. The states that comprise the modern Pakistan and Bangladesh had the highest concentration of Muslims.
Jinnah was trying to make a Muslim majority nation, but that didnt mean that he expected every Muslim to leave India, nor did it mean that every Hindu would leave Pakistan.
No. Pakistan didnt start this so called war on terror. Al Qaeda is not a Pakistani invention.
Pakistan didnt not invent militant training camps. Pakistan didnt start this war with America.
The issue of global terrorism isn't as simple as you make it. I suggest you do some reading.
All Muslims aren't being ruined by Pakistan. Pakistan didn't send anyone to blow up the world trade center.
Pakistan didn't create Osama Bin Laden.
Pakistan off course has been intimately involved in Afghanistan, but then so have a number of other countries, from Russia, to the US, to the Saudis, to the Iranis, to even the Indians.
Honestly, I dont think you have any clue what your talking about.
Classic case of denial. Each one of these have been amply and more than reasonably established and in fact in several occasions admitted to by Pakistani officials.
Admission is a necessary first step to rehabilitation.
Once India prosecutes those guilty of murder, and acknowledges the rights of not only Indians but also Kashmiris, the we can consider India a nation we can befriend.
We Pakistanis may not be prefect, but as India stands today, we would gain nothing through our association.
Indians rightfully honor the principles that Mahatma Gandhi set for the new nation. But until Indians begin emulating those principles in spirit, what could we Pakistanis possibly expect to learn from you?
You have clearly articulated your position. I believe lots of progressives in India would readily acknowledge the injustices described in my earlier post. I hope to hear from them regarding this. I would request from them not to conflate that with any other grievances they may have with respect to Pakistan. Just acknowledge and show respect to the one who were wronged.
As for Kashmir, I am not very knowledgeable about all the details. And i do not want to open any wounds by providing an opinion that is based on incomplete knowledge.
I wish you peace, and I wish the region peace.
Allah Hafiz. (I hope I used this correctly - else Gustakhi Maaf)
You are repeating the same thing again and again , without having any clue to substantiate ‘Your Reply’ to any quotes you chose to answer ! Even though Med911 post is very simple and based on historical FACT.
You are a ‘Dumb Poster’ and I wish I could say this that all Indians are as naive as you are. But they are NOT!
Classic case of denial. Each one of these have been amply and more than reasonably established and in fact in several occasions admitted to by Pakistani officials.
Admission is a necessary first step to rehabilitation.
Are you saying that Pakistan created Al Qaeda, OBL, and 9/11!?!??
Your embarrassing yourself with your own ignorance.
What happened to muslims in Gujarat was indeed shameful. My heart goes out to them and their families. Narendra Modi should have been prosecuted.
As for the Sikhs, one of my colleague's father (a Sikh) was killed during the bloodbath against the Sikh community.
Yes, these events should be acknowledged.
I honestly believe India is moving forward under Manmohan Singh, and trying to do the right thing for all of its citizens.
Peace.
killing of a human beings by humans must be condemded , guilty persons are facing legal trial by special courts , godhara incident led to the riots ,two bogies full of hindus were charred by rioters this incident is also condemnable . regarding modi ,he is a villaine but ironically law which is in india /pakistan for criminal cases is based on british inheritance which has got many loopholes ,that is why pakistan is unable to try those who killed bhutto,liaqat,killers who killed 300000 bengalis in east pakistan,generals who killed 15000 mohazirs in karachi ,killers of benezir, people who killed hindus and kashmiri pandits,
Pakistan was based on concentration of Muslims, not on actual numbers. The states that comprise the modern Pakistan and Bangladesh had the highest concentration of Muslims.
Jinnah was trying to make a Muslim majority nation, but that didnt mean that he expected every Muslim to leave India, nor did it mean that every Hindu would leave Pakistan.
so you are now spokesman of jinnah ? where did he mention this concerntration theory for creation of pakistan ? he was demanding for a muslim home land , he was also under the mis conception of being sole leader of muslims of india, but he was proved wrong ,those muslims who migrated from present day india were few only ,rest knew what will happen to migrants as it is proved now mohazirs are facing daily discrimination due to their skin colour due to migratory history riots and killing by original inhabitants , you killed liaqat khan and others, same fate was in waiting for jinnah but he was lucky to have gone for his heavenly abode. what you did in bangladesh was at par with worst case of discrimination by germans on jews, what about hindus? you are not able to tolerate hindustani migrants even they are being persecuted ,by the way how many hindus have been left in kashmir ghati and pakistan ?
what happened in riots , shahadat of babri masque , was shameful for us indians , but miscreants are everywhere we are fighting such miscreants both indegeneous and outsiders vehementally , we also dont want self appointed sympathisers for minorities from pakistan
Are you saying that Pakistan created Al Qaeda, OBL, and 9/11!?!??
Your embarrassing yourself with your own ignorance.
what I said is right there in writing, in #82. So don't try these tactics of changing words or subject.
"And why did all Muslims came to be viewed with suspicion? Due to the terrorist tactics and camps adopted by Pakistan. Where was the money for 9/11 sent from? Where do all the terrorists go to for bootcamp and training?
So , yeah. the country that was created to preserve rights of Muslims has ended up ruining it for all Muslims globally"
Are you saying that Pakistan created Al Qaeda, OBL, and 9/11!?!??
Your embarrassing yourself with your own ignorance.
you people are being used by rougues of arab muslim jehadis , your importance in eyes of arabian al qayada terrorists is nothing . they are fighting on your soil ,why dont you say them to start jehad from middle east . here you people are wasting your time discussing indian democracy ,just to get points where india is not doing well. you hate india like anything.but this attitude is ruining pakistan.
killing of a human beings by humans must be condemded , guilty persons are facing legal trial by special courts , godhara incident led to the riots ,two bogies full of hindus were charred by rioters this incident is also condemnable . regarding modi ,he is a villaine but ironically law which is in india /pakistan for criminal cases is based on british inheritance which has got many loopholes ,that is why pakistan is unable to try those who killed bhutto,liaqat,killers who killed 300000 bengalis in east pakistan,generals who killed 15000 mohazirs in karachi ,killers of benezir, people who killed hindus and kashmiri pandits,
Dont try to equivocate.
No one in India is being punished for their crimes. Twenty years since Sikh riots, and yet no one has been prosecuted.
The 2000 plus innocent Muslims killed in Gujrat people killed had nothing to do with whatever happened in Godhara. You are trying to justify the mass murder of innocent people, based on nothing more then their religous affiliation. Nothing you say can justify murdering 2000 plus people. And the fact that you try to justify this act just shows what a revolting character you are.
And Pakistan has nothing to do with Indians murdering Thousands of their own people in mass orgies of violence.
Ironic that you cant stop touting your accomplishment at every turn, and bristle at the thought of any comparison with Pakistan, yet have no qualms over doing just that when it suits you, passing off your wrong by equivocating them with Pakistan.
I honestly thought India was held to higher standard?!?!
Really? So when Pakistan went into South Waziristan and Swat, they did so on behalf of Arabs Jihadis?!?!
I would like them to stop their Jihad everywhere (Except in Kashmir where its justified.)
I could care less about Indian democracy. I could care less about India. The only reason anyone in Pakistan has any concern over India is because India is in illegal occupation of Kashmir. As soon and you leave Kashmir, we Pakistanis will have no concern with you what so ever.
We hate Indians who support murderous terrorists, who attack innocent men women and children. As you rmy does regularly in Kashmir.
Pakistans problems will be resolve themselves eventually. They are just that, Pakistani problems.
You somehow miss the irony here. Im not the one posting on INDIAN forums. YOU are an INDIAN who is posting his garbage on a PAKISTANI FORUM, accusing us of being obsessed with India…
Unbelievable unmitigated bs! Everybody knows Pak army did the waziriztan ops because they had no choice. It was either you do it or the Americans will do it for you; plus you would have lost a lot more in terms of aid money without which Pak govt will collapse within 4 months.
Make no mistake - Pakistan's survival as a sovereign nation depends upon how soon they are able to give up terrorism as their only export
What garbage. Indian educational system at its finest..
indian education system is a garbage because we teach
1.akbar the great was one of the greatest indian emperor in the line of kings Ashoka the great ,bhoj parmar , shershah suri, rana kumbha ,abul hasan khan tana shah of golkunda , hussain shah sharqui, because these people were ture indians, they ruled here without any fanatic or religious feelings ,deserving people from all walks of life got places in darbaars of these kings , during these kings reign culture ,architecture ,buissiness ,art developed with protection of govt.
they did not discriminate any body on basis of religion.
2.it teaches to respect all religions ,
3.humanity is bigger than religion.
4.it produces top class doctors ,engineers,social scietistes , who come from all walks of life and religious group through process of flawless competitive exams and interviews , such people have worked responsibily in india and globaly .
5.99percent of indian hindu muslim sikh ishaai consider country first other things second .
as for as kashmir is concerned is every muslim is ready to give his life for kashmir regardless of retarded propaganda of enemies of india. so propogandists are requested to mind their state of affairs
which is getting worst everyday.one request to the sympathizers of indian muslims ,they should clean their concience and think about muslims of pakistan ,where thousands of minority and muslims are getting murdered in ethnic clashes.
