Understanding & Remembering the two September 11s

This was written by Ariel Dorfman, a professor at Universidad de Chile in Santiago. He has taught at Sorbonne. He wrote this about a year ago.

During the past 28 years, 11 September has been a date of mourning, for me and millions of others, ever since that Tuesday in 1973 when Chile lost its democracy in a military coup, that day when death irrevocably entered our lives and changed us forever. And now, almost three decades later, the malignant gods of random history have wanted to impose upon the same country that we blamed for the coup that dreadful date, again a Tuesday, again an 11 September filled with death.

The differences and distances that separate the Chilean date from the American are, one must admit, considerable. The depraved terrorist attack against the most powerful nation on Earth has and will have consequences which affect all humanity. Whereas very few of the six billion people alive today could remember or would be able to identify what happened in Chile.

The resemblance I am evoking goes well beyond a facile and superficial comparison – for instance, that both in Chile in 1973 and in the United States today, terror descended from the sky to destroy the symbols of national identity: the Palace of the Presidents in Santiago, the icons of financial and military power in New York and Washington.

No, what I recognise is something deeper, a parallel suffering, a similar pain, a commensurate disorientation echoing what we lived through in Chile as of that 11 September.

It’s most extraordinary incarnation – I still cannot believe what I have been witnessing – is that on the screen in the weeks past I have seen hundreds of relatives wandering the streets of New York, clutching the photos of their sons, fathers, wives, lovers, daughters, begging for information, asking if they are alive or dead. The whole United States has been forced to look into the abyss of what it means to be desaparecido, with no certainty or funeral possible for those beloved men and women who are missing.

Over and over again I have heard phrases that remind me of what people like me would mutter to themselves during the 1973 military coup and the days that followed: “This cannot be happening to us. This sort of excessive violence happens to other people and not to us, we have only known this form of destruction through movies and books and remote photographs.” And words reiterated unceasingly, 28 years ago and now again in the year 2001: “We have lost our innocence. The world will never be the same.”

What has come to an explosive conclusion, of course, is (North) America’s famous exceptionalism, that attitude which allowed the citizens of this country to imagine themselves as beyond the sorrows and calamities that have plagued less fortunate peoples around the world.

In spite of the tremendous pain, the intolerable losses that this apocalyptic crime has visited upon the American public, I wonder if this trial does not constitute one of those opportunities for regeneration and self-knowledge that, from time to time, is given to certain nations. A crisis of this magnitude can lead to renewal or destruction, it can be used for good or for evil, for peace or for war, for aggression or for reconciliation, for vengeance or for justice, for the militarisation of a society or its humanisation.

One of the ways for Americans to overcome their trauma and survive the fear and continue to live and thrive in the midst of the insecurity which has suddenly swallowed them is to admit that their suffering is neither unique nor exclusive, that they are connected – as long as they are willing to look at themselves in the vast mirror of our common humanity – with so many other human beings who, in faraway zones, have suffered similar situations of unanticipated and often protracted injury and fury.

The terrorists have wanted to single out and isolate the United States as a satanic state. The rest of the planet, including many nations and men and women who have been the object of American arrogance and intervention reject – as I categorically do – this demonisation.

It is enough to see the almost unanimous outpouring of grief of most of the world, the offers of help, the expressions of solidarity, the determination to claim the dead of this mass murder as our dead. It remains to be seen if this compassion shown to the mightiest power on this planet will be reciprocated.

It is still far from certain that the men and women of this nation, so full of hope and tolerance, will be able to feel that same empathy towards the other, outcast, members of our species.

We will find out in the years to come if the new Americans forged in pain and resurrection are ready and open and willing to participate in the arduous process of repairing our shared, our damaged humanity. Creating, all of us together, a world in which we need never again lament not one more, not even one more terrifying 11 September.

Americans must now feel what the rest of us have known, The Independent, 3 October 2001

Shiraj Uddin is a Bangli in New York. We are still coping with how to react and how to feel. There are problems with US no doubt, but none so bad that Americans cannot fix.


Fallout from Nine-Eleven incidents roils the Muslim World

By Shiraj Uddin Shopon

America along with other civilized nations all over the world are gearing up to remember the terrible incidents of 9-11 that happened a year ago. The destruction of Twin Towers in the city where I live is a vivid reminder that the pernicious force of Jihadi Islam had again reared its ugly head to create confusion and chaos in America and in the West.

Many wise writers in cyber forums had written copiously about the ills of Muslim Umma concerning world peace, development, and amity. An enduring global peace is essential for humanity to progress and to move forward into a courageous but uncertain world. The Muslim world however lagged behind in this quest for conscious growth and development for years and years. Every which we looked, we saw no democracy to speak about in the Muslim World.

The leader of Muslim nation is Saudi Arabia, unquestionably. But alas, there is no trace of democracy in Saudia. The neighboring Persian Gulf States and Kuwait are also not democratic states. In their defense, the government of these nations say that democracy and Islam are incompatible. Prof. M. Omar Farooq, a regular cyber writer and a Muslim reformer living in the Mashreq (west), may disagree with the heads of the states in Arabian peninsula and in Persian Gulf region but the fact remains the same.

According to the dictum of Islam (read Koran and Hadis), there should not be any democratic state in any Islamic nation. Maulana Abu Ala Maududi, the eminent Islamic scholar of Pakistan wanted to accommodate theocracy in the guise of democracy. He called his brand of "democracy" – the Theo-democracy. His brainchild, the Jammat, wants to grab power in Bangladesh only to convert this docile nation into a hot bed of radicalized Islam. In essence, there is no room for democracy in Islam and Prof. Omar Farooq knows this for a fact.

In the post 9-11 days, Muslim clerics all over the world are saying that Muslims are one. However, when we look, all we see that Muslims are divided. They are divided for good reasons. There is no amity among the Muslim nations. In August 1990, Saddam Hussein’s army moved into neighboring Kuwait that gave many opportunities to America to apprehend Saddam’s elite Republican Army. And guess which nation came forward to help America? It was none other than House of Saud who cajoled America to go after Saddam. The reason was very clear. If not confronted head-on, Saddam may have annexed Saudi Arabia next. Therefore, self-interest had motivated the Saudis to lick the boot of Mr. Bush senior.

Of course, that made a dissident Saudi maverick by the name Osama bin Laden very upset. This bootlicking by the Saudis had irked Osama bin Laden so much so that years later he gave fatwa against America. Mr. bin Laden is known to be an Islamic man of vision. To fulfill his dream, he reared a group of trusted men. His brainchild, al-Qaeda, is now being dreaded as a pernicious force by America. Mr. George W. Bush, the senior Bush’s son, had promised to bring down al-Qaeda and its leaders to their knees. Thus, right now, America is fighting an unannounced war against Osama’s army of al-Qaeda while other Islamic nation such as Pakistan is helping America to weed out fundamentalist Muslims from the face of this world.

The petite nation of Bangladesh, a Muslim majority nation, is now seeking help from America to retrain the Imams whose voice carries a long distance in this poverty-mired nation. The other day, the lady Ambassador of America for Bangladesh, Ms. Mary Ann Peters, talked to Imams of Bangladesh after they finished one such training session, which is most likely paid by the American government.

This re-training of Mullahs is deemed necessary by America because the first training the clerics had received in village madrassahs is not compatible with the world we all live in. To soften the edge of Jihadi brand of Islam, America has targeted tens of thousands of Imams of Bangladesh to brainwash them so that their rhetoric on Jumma prayer would be kinder, gentler, and friendlier to western nations. This is an innovative way to combat the growth of Islamic fundamentalism. We shall have to wait to see the results.

The Talibans of Afghanistan were a formidable force before 9-11. Since they harbored anything like Osama bin Laden, America decided to teach them a harsh lesson of lifetime. The destructive force of Daisy Cutter Bomb proved to be no match for Talibans’ wild and pungent rhetoric.

Americans thus defeated one orthodox brand of Islam, Talibanism, in an unannounced war that barely lasted only two months. America’s superior firepower seems to be burdensome and punishing for the uneducated Talibans. They gave up their power too easily and moved to neighboring Islamic nation of Pakistan for a sanctuary. Pakistan’s Pashto speaking Pathans are not the same as Sindhis or Punjabis. Their alliance had always been with the Pashtu speaking Afghanis. Therefore, Mullah Omar and his roving gang of lieutenants received a warm welcome in the border area in the Northwest Frontier province.

I am bringing the above information to point out that Muslims all over the world are not united as far as 9-11 incidents are concerned. The educated and well-off Muslims who are modernists are sympathetic to the West. On the other hand, the poor Muslims are on the side of an amalgamation of Muslims composed of Osama bin Laden, Talibans, fundamentalists, and other oppressed Muslims such as Palestinians.

Even though Saddam Hussein is not an Islamist by any figment of imagination, but lately, he also had invoked Islam to strengthened his position amongst Iraqis. Allow me to remind my readers that Pakistan in 1971 also invoked Islam to protect a united Pakistan from fragmentation. Religion had been used as a tool in our part of the world. The Talibans have used it too to control the entire provinces of Afghanistan.

By reading American newspapers in the pre-anniversary days of 9-11, I see that many moderate Muslims in America are saying unabashedly that Jihadi brand of Islam is not the true face of Islam. Their remarks are geared to garner sympathy from Americans. In their heart, though, they know it too well that Jihad is an integral part of Islam.
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The 9-11 incidents have pushed the expatriate Muslims into state of confusion in the West. Like a litmus test we are asked – as a Muslim, do you believe in Jihad and democracy? What should be our response? Yes and No. We will be in serious trouble then. So, to make a compromise we unabashedly say—Jihad - No, and Democracy - Yes. In our mind, we very well know that we are fibbing. For survival in the West, however, we should be allowed to fib. Allah being the merciful and beneficent will forgive us for our minor transgression. That is what I am hoping.
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Re: Understanding & Remembering the two September 11s

October 3rd, 2001????

The efforts one must go through.

whoops. Then I guess it's Nadia's timing that I find cynical.

What's up with you guys? Can you ever hold a respectful debate? No wonder i wish there more females in this forum.

The second line of my post clearly says "He wrote this about a year ago."

oh, and Storch, the timing is not meant to be "cynical." It's meant to hopefully start some constructive dialogues. i have no wish of rubbing salt on wounds.

Here's a subject for constructive dialogue:

How as a World Community are we cooperate to rid the world of fascist dictators and terrorists who would like to murder innocent Americans? This I would argue is the more relevant and realistic question rather than bringing into question America's moral debt on the anniversary of WTC.

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Here's a subject for constructive dialogue:

How as a World Community are we cooperate to rid the world of fascist dictators and terrorists who would like to murder innocent Americans? This I would argue is the more relevant and realistic question rather than bringing into question America's moral debt on the anniversary of WTC.
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let me make it a little more constructive and a lot more real.

How as a World Community are we cooperate to rid the world of fascist dictators and terrorists who would like to murder innocent * people *? This I would argue is even more relevant and realistic question since it deals with all of mankind, not just americans.

Now carry on, have a meaningful debate. I will read, learn and chime in when I have something to add.

Mr. Fraudia,

My topic was about Americans. It does not exclude other topics. You and Nadia may wish to frame WTC murder in a context that suggests American culpability. However, in answer to your question I will say that ridding the world of Al Queda and organizations like it would be a terrific first step in preventing the murder of innocent people all over the world. I don't think American self-reflection is an appropriate first step in response to the murder of our citizens. We are constantly in the process of reflection. I don't see why an unequivocal condemnation of WTC killers is so difficult.

If you use the anniversary of WTC to remind Americans that they may not be justly indignant, you haven't "unequivocally" condemned this slaughter. It is called a "wake up call" or a "time to reflect on your past sins" any or all of which may not be sins in an American's perspective and cannot justify this murder.

nadia, if these attacks had taken place in your Canada, the situation would not have been different... Dont tell me the Canadian Government is any better is it?

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nadia, if these attacks had taken place in your Canada, the situation would not have been different... Dont tell me the Canadian Government is any better is it?
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lol... Spock, if it makes you feel any better, i'll say what you want to hear from me. What sort of response do you want? That the Canadian government sucks? That it is no better than its American counterpart?

All jokes aside - you hold your perspectives regarding the American government's foreign policies to be accurate, and i hold mine to be accurate. Leave it at that, to you yours to me mine.

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lol... Spock, if it makes you feel any better, i'll say what you want to hear from me. What sort of response do you want? That the Canadian government sucks? That it is no better than its American counterpart?

All jokes aside - you hold your perspectives regarding the American government's foreign policies to be accurate, and i hold mine to be accurate. Leave it at that, to you yours to me mine.
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Nadia, I never said the American policies were right or wrong... I merely said that if you consider them to be wrong, you should also realize that your Canadian Government is also wrong then. I have encountered various Pakistanis living in Canada, who badmouth the Americans, and then consider their Government as pious, having nothing to do with whats going on in the world today. I am just pointing out something they fail to realize, or choose to ignore. I could even give you an example of a guppie who was so anti-American, but migrated to Canada and carried out his hatred while living there, but when I asked him why he lives in Canada, he went, well thats because Canada is different, the people here are much nicer and their attitude towards Muslims is better? Isnt that stupid?

Spock,

At least now i understand the context of where your comments were coming from.

Have you ever read a post by me in which i have heaped praises upon my government? When i posted that thread regarding PM Chretien's linkage of 9-11 with western governments' "arrogance" and a perceived sense of "humiliation", i did that for one reason alone - because it was the first time that a leader from a western country had done so. NOT because it implies a Canadian superiority vis-a-vis Americans - i am not that type to indulge in such a useless thought. i would have thought you "know" me better than that, i have never once said any group is superior over another. Never once.

And, with all due sincere respect to yourself, you don't know whether or not i lobby my government, my Member of Parliament, whether or not i arrange events/conferences that have a direct bearing upon the Canadian government's role in foreign policy issues. You may certainly have heard other Canadians badmouth the US with little thought that the Canadian government bears some responsibility for its actions as well, but please don't paint us all with the same brush.

Thanks for your reply; i hope this clears it up Insha'Allah.

Since you clarified your views and motives, you are not one of the people whom I was talking about... I just assumed u were, but apparently you were not... This clears it up :)