UN given 'peanuts' for Iraq clean-up

If anyone can post a link to RL’s speech at the World Economic Forum, that would be extremely helpful. i couldn’t find it on the 'net.

UN given ‘peanuts’ for Iraq clean-up, Greg Barrows, BBC, 4 February 2003

United Nations aid officials have warned that they are being given “peanuts” to deal with the humanitarian fallout from a military intervention in Iraq. Aid officials have told the BBC that they may have to divert money from existing emergencies in Angola, Ivory Coast and Afghanistan. Some have even indicated an unwillingness to undertake an operation that could appear to be “cleaning up” after a war by big powers in Iraq.

It is an unusual public expression of anger. Some agencies have even decided not to take money from countries which attack Iraq.

Few officials were willing to speak openly about the problem until late last month when the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, Ruud Lubbers, let it drop that his agency was being asked the impossible - to prepare for hundreds of thousands of refugees from Iraq, but being given no money to pay for it. Speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Mr Lubbers went public.

Against the sound of helicopters ferrying the rich and the privileged to and from the Swiss gathering, he accused those nations that are ready to support war of paying little heed of the cost of assisting Iraqi civilians who may suffer as a result of conflict. “Nobody’s interested to do it,” he said. "There’s not one government who has come to me with money.

“When you ask me, is there a sort of planning of governments on what to do when it comes to military intervention, my impression is simply that they are not prepared for that.”

Mr Lubbers’s comments had an unusual effect back at UN headquarters in New York. UN officials who had previously remained silent about this problem became willing to speak.

On the 36th floor of the UN headquarters is the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). Just a heartbeat away from UN Secretary General Kofi Annan’s office, OCHA is responsible for planning the UN’s strategy in dealing with emergencies. Its officials are also exasperated. “The UN is [commonly] criticised for having not been prepared,” said Stephen Johnson, deputy chief of the Humanitarian Branch at OCHA. “Now that we are prepared, we seem to be in danger of not being funded.”

The UN asked donor nations for funds in Geneva on 13 December last year. In terms of the size of the crisis they could potentially face, their appeal was relatively modest: just over $37m. To date, they have received almost nothing - just a pledge from the United States for $15m, a figure described by one UN official as “peanuts”.

UN estimates of the cost of making contingency plans have more than quadrupled since that appeal took place, but money still is not appearing. Despite the lack of funds, UN officials have told the BBC that OCHA has gone ahead and made preparations for the possibility of war in Iraq. The UN refugee agency UNHCR is facing the biggest problems.

It has had to make plans for a wave of up to 600,000 refugees from Iraq - a challenge that involves placing huge advance orders for shelter, sanitation, and food. Yussuf Hassan, the spokesman for UNHCR in New York, says that the agency is far from ready for a worst-case scenario. “I think we are going to face a lot of difficulties,” he said.

“We simply aren’t ready for a major displacement at this particular moment.” Perhaps even more worrying is the pressure this is placing on UNHCR’s emergency programmes elsewhere in the world. Mr Hassan says the time may arrive soon when funds for vital operations in Angola, Afghanistan and Ivory Coast may have to be diverted to contingency planning for the potential crisis in and around Iraq.

“It has put us in a very difficult situation of preparing for a crisis that has not yet taken place,” he said. “We would rather be focussing on those real emergencies.” UN officials also say the particular political circumstances surrounding a possible war in Iraq have posed an unusual ethical dilemma.

The UN agencies are asking themselves whether they should even accept funds from nations - many of them rich and powerful - that are leading the push for military action against Iraq. "We are concerned that we are seen as the clean-up operation," said Stephen Johnson of OCHA. “I think that under certain circumstances, we would have to ask how happy we are with that role. Do we want to play that role, and is that what we were set up for?”

It’s a question being asked not just by UN agencies, but by the whole international aid community. The BBC has learned that a number of leading international non-governmental organisations (NGOs) have made a policy decision not to take funds from sponsors of war in Iraq. Aid officials say that could rule out big hitters in the donor community, such as Britain, the United States and Australia.

The consequences for civilians who may be caught up in any military action are potentially catastrophic.

What do you think the chances are of them refusing to take money from the US or UK etc. I reckon it would be about nil and what do you think the chances are that these 3 guys are manouvering to get more money by doing this?

I find it hard to believe that the money will not be forthcoming,if and when the conflict gets underway,even if it is only for political reasons and not altruistic,the UK,US could not afford the flack that would be forthcoming if they negleted to look after this.

Nadia: The article you post sure contrasts sharply with the article posted by Judge under the thread, “Bomb Them, then Feed them.” (Sorry, I don't know how to provide a link to the other GupShup thread)

Here's a portion of the article quoted in its entirety by Judge.

February 04, 2003

Multibillion aid plan for West to win the peace
By Richard Beeston, James Bone and Elaine Monaghan

THE United States and Britain are determined to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people with a multibillion-pound aid and reconstruction operation aimed at improving their lives as soon as a military campaign is over.
According to sources in Washington and London, detailed contingency plans are well advanced to flood a post-Saddam Iraq with food and medicines, to provide security and rebuild quickly the country’s shattered infrastructure.

Maybe those UN Aid Officials just don’t know what the hell is really going on.

MyVoice, yes, you are accurate. It's an interesting article posted by JM.

Maybe those UN Aid Officials just don’t know what the hell is really going on.
:~/ Just like any other official whose comments you don't agree with ?

Whatever the case, as one of the UN officials pointed out, a pledge of $15m was made by the US. "Peanuts" in comparison to what is needed. What's more tragic, perhaps, is that the money that will go into reconstructing post-war Iraq is money that will be diverted from current emergencies in Angola, the Ivory Coast, etc. As it is, these regions receive relatively little media exposure and consequently humanitarian assistance. Subsequent to the illegal war against Iraq, even the little human. aid the people in these regions receive, will be reduced and diverted towards Iraq.

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**Maybe those UN Aid Officials just don’t know what the hell is really going on.
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:~/ Just like any other official whose comments you don't agree with ?

Whatever the case, as one of the UN officials pointed out, a pledge of $15m was made by the US. "Peanuts" in comparison to what is needed. What's more tragic, perhaps, is that the money that will go into reconstructing post-war Iraq is money that will be diverted from current emergencies in Angola, the Ivory Coast, etc. As it is, these regions receive relatively little media exposure and consequently humanitarian assistance. Subsequent to the illegal war against Iraq, even the little human. aid the people in these regions receive, will be reduced and diverted towards Iraq.
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Nadia:
As we get closer and closer to war with Iraq, I find that you have a greater and greater tencency to ignore facts that don't seem to fit into your pre-conceived notion of reality. Whether or not the US pledged ONLY $15 million to some UN fund is truly irrelevant if the US and UK are planning on spending multi-billions of dollars in Iraq as part of reconstructing the country. US and UK money being spent in Iraq takes nothing away from UN funds devoted to Angola or the Ivory Coast. If you didn't hear, the US administration is also trying to get Congress to approve billions to go to Africa to fight AIDS too. This US taxpayer money for AIDS is not taking anything away from UN funds for Angola or the Ivory Coast either.

The universe of aid and reconstruction money for Iraq or anywhere else is not limited to the UN. Just because some UN aid official doesn't know about non-UN money going to reconstruction doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

*To date, they have received almost nothing - just a pledge from the United States for $15m, a figure described by one UN official as "peanuts". *

Is that all? They spent tens of billions dollars destroying Iraq in 1991, and they will no doubt spend many more tens of billions of dollars obliterating Iraq now. Yet all they have to offer in retrun is a measly $15 million? Jeez...

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *As we get closer and closer to war with Iraq, I find that you have a greater and greater tencency to ignore facts that don't seem to fit into your pre-conceived notion of reality.
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Thank you.

US and UK money being spent in Iraq takes nothing away from UN funds devoted to Angola or the Ivory Coast.
The article just stated that it did: "Perhaps even more worrying is the pressure this is placing on UNHCR's emergency programmes elsewhere in the world. Mr Hassan says the time may arrive soon when funds for vital operations in Angola, Afghanistan and Ivory Coast may have to be diverted to contingency planning for the potential crisis in and around Iraq."

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*US and UK money being spent in Iraq takes nothing away from UN funds devoted to Angola or the Ivory Coast.

The article just stated that it did: "Perhaps even more worrying is the pressure this is placing on UNHCR's emergency programmes elsewhere in the world. Mr Hassan says the time may arrive soon when funds for vital operations in Angola, Afghanistan and Ivory Coast may have to be diverted to contingency planning for the potential crisis in and around Iraq."
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The article did NOT state that Nadia. That is the whole point. The UN guys are talking about the lack of UNHCR money to reconstruct Iraq and they claim that they will need to move money from one UNHCR program to Iraq. That whole thing is predicated on their belief that there is so little money for Iraq and that it will come out of UNHCR funds. They don't know about the billions upon billions being provided by the US and UK to reconstruct Iraq outside the auspices of their little UN agency. Remember, the premise of their belief is that only $15 million (peanuts) is being pledged by the US to UNHCR for this purpose. Their premise that the $15 million is all that will be available for reconstruction is wrong by multi-billions of dollars. Their conclusion is wrong.

So you can post this article and argue that the US has committed only peanuts to the post-war reconstruction of Iraq thus making things worse in Angola and the Ivory Coast and elsewhere if you want to. But to do so, you must totally ignore the truth and reality of a multi-billion dollar investment that will be made by the US and UK.

Sometimes i feel we are talking in two separate languages. MyVoice, when will the promised aid arrive if it has not arrived yet? In order to effectively prepare, grapple with the post-war Iraq situation, with the expected refugee exodus, the reconstruction efforts, the money should be in place NOW so that the agencies are able to effectively implement their plans. i am not certain what hinders these particular govts. so much that they have not been able to cough up the dough until now, although there seems to be ample money around to go towards obscure and numerous homeland security departments, etc.

>>...you must totally ignore the truth and reality of a **multi-billion dollar investment* that will be made by the US and UK.<<*
Multi-billion dollar investment? Let us see.

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*Originally posted by Nadia_H: *
Sometimes i feel we are talking in two separate languages. MyVoice, when will the promised aid arrive if it has not arrived yet?
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Trust me, I feel the same way about the language issue. Your further comments presume that the "promised aid" must necessarily be given to and administered by the UN. Why???? Particularly under any circumstances where any member of the UN Security Council objects to US and UK military intervention in Iraq, I think the reconstruction might very well be best administered outside the confines of the UN. If Americans and the British taxpayers are footing the bill, at least the Iraqi people ought to know who is helping them rebuild their country. You can be darn sure the French and anti-Americans will bellyache and b*tch up a storm about who was responsible for attacking Iraq and casuing whatever damage is done. Then they want to use UK and US taxpayer money to rebuild Iraq and take all the credit for that humanitarian deed? No thank you.

If you want to support and/or participate in the military action and take responsibility for it, by all means join us in the reconstruction effort and take joint responsibility for it. If not, get lost.

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *
THE United States and Britain are determined to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people with a multibillion-pound aid and reconstruction operation aimed at improving their lives as soon as a military campaign is over.
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Mmmm is it going to be anything like the 'aid' and 'reconstruction operation' they did in Afghanistan???

Sometimes this just ticks me off.

In 2001, the US supported the World food programme to the tune of 1.18 Billion, nearly 64% of the entire program. The next largest contributor was the EC, at 6.2%, then Japan at 4.8%. This is just one program out of many where the US is the prime supporter and largest contributor.

For all the talk about compassion and anti-war emotions, the european community talks more and does less. To now express doubt that the US will contribute fairly to ANY humanitarian situation just bites my butt.
http://www.wfp.org/index.asp?section=1

As far as Afghanistan, feel free to check the USAID web site to see the most recent contributions. On FY 2001/2002/ and so far in FY 2003 (the fiscal year starts Oct 1, 2002) the expenditures for Afghanistan have been 742million.

That accounts for most of Myvoices tax payments!
http://www.usaid.gov/hum_response/ofda/afghanistan_ce_sr03_fy03.html

OhioGuy, does that figure reflect the expenses being incurred on stationing a military presence or money given to the many warlords to keep supporting the 'interim' government or money being spent on actual developmental projects that may benefit the poor Afghani whose house was bombed to smithereens..

No.

Nor have we charged anything against the account for the lack of war that you seemed to be forgetting. That little problem with the Taliban and the Northern Alliance, and the death and destruction brought by that long running civil war seems to have slipped your mind.

Perhaps you should update your knowledge on the situation in Afghanistan. It’s not paradise, but far better than in 1991 when the Taliban had all but thrown out all of the NGO’s from the country.
http://www.reliefweb.int/w/rwb.nsf/vLCE/Afghanistan?OpenDocument&StartKey=Afghanistan&Expandview

Myvoice and Nadia.. u r not getting things across quite correctly. Allow me to interfere.

$15MM of a proposed $40MM package is roughly 40% of the budget approved/pledged for the UNHCR. Given a mass exodus of an estimated 600,000 Iraqi refugees, that is $25 per refugee.. in total. Not per day, not per week.. in total, for the duration of their camp stay this year, upto 12 months, because the budget is supposedly revised and revitalized annually. Now, the estimate has quadrupled to $160MM because $25 per person is simply not feasible. So, $15MM is.. less than peanuts, it is chilgozey.

Re-construction efforts are not a directive of the UNHCR, nor within its power to administer. The multi-billion dollar planned investment is not for the refugees but to enable rebuilding and/or cross-linking of vital infrastructure like roads, trees, telecom systems, etc.. The multi-billion dollar planned investment likewise does not cover re-building bombed homes, damp-wall schools and the like, or doling out insurance benefits for locals that have been killed in the bombings. It is ONLY for big-ticket infrastructure development. That includes building oil refineries, pipelines, digging trenches, laying wiring, etc... Some of those monies will be earmarked for schools, hospitals, and universities.. but that is not under the UNHCR, and will come only much later, after the majority of the money has been well-spent securing US and UK interests in oil and industry, thru as PA mentioned, bribing those in key positions, maintaining round-the-clock security patrols, housing the military command units, etc..

The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees only deals with refugees. And the fact of the matter is, $25 for one refugee... perhaps for a lifetime once the year one cost of running the camps comes under scrutiny .. begs the question "Why even that much?"

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*Originally posted by myvoice: *
If you want to support and/or participate in the military action and take responsibility for it, by all means join us in the reconstruction effort and take joint responsibility for it. If not, get lost.
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Fine, MV.
Let's wait and see what occurs in the post-war Iraq situation. If the US does genuinely implement a serious humanitarian reconstruction programme, and proves that it is more interested in reconstructing Iraq's sewage, educational, health, and water infrastructures, rather than negotiating the technicalities of 'Gulf War' compensation and focusing upon Iraq's oil industries, then you can have the pleasure of proving me wrong. Fair enough?

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Re-construction efforts are not a directive of the UNHCR, nor within its power to administer. The multi-billion dollar planned investment is not for the *refugees
but to enable rebuilding and/or cross-linking of vital infrastructure like roads, trees, telecom systems, etc.. The multi-billion dollar planned investment likewise does not cover re-building bombed homes, damp-wall schools and the like, or doling out insurance benefits for locals that have been killed in the bombings. It is ONLY for big-ticket infrastructure development. That includes building oil refineries, pipelines, digging trenches, laying wiring, etc... Some of those monies will be earmarked for schools, hospitals, and universities.. but that is not under the UNHCR, and will come only much later, after the majority of the money has been well-spent securing US and UK interests in oil and industry, thru as PA mentioned, bribing those in key positions, maintaining round-the-clock security patrols, housing the military command units, etc..
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Ana, Sorry, two quick questions:

  • Where will the funds for the "big-ticket infrastructure development" come from, if not the UNHCR?

  • As i understand it from your post, these particular responsibilities will not fall under the jurisdiction of the UNHCR. Therefore, assuming that the US does provoke a war against Iraq, who administers this particular component of the reconstruction process in Iraq?