UN backs gay rights for first time ever

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Re: UN backs gay rights for first time ever

@javedmiandad

red bhai

I answered your point on people lifestyle choice but you choose not to accept. People are molded by society and the culture around them no point repeating what i stated already.

You didn’t answer the specific questions - but the mods have ruled that it is too personal a question so I cannot ask you to answer it.

@javedmiandad

second misunderstanding is Your comment about hanging around certain type of people this will not 100% make you homosexual, but my example was if your crowd is mainly secular orientated i.e socialists, atheists, capitalist no doubt will make idea of homosexuality acceptable behavior to you this what i am saying.

Which is perfectly fine, homosexuality has existed, does exist, and will continue to exist - hence the sooner people realize that its is okay, the better it will be for homosexuals - if according to you their afterlife is probably hell, why not give them a decent life in this world at least.

@javedmiandad

In today’s time we have no islamic state only secular ones like pakistan,so in the coming islamic state a homosexual person we cannot harm them untill they commit a crime i.e fornication so in islamic state this require evidence i.e witness so if court case with witnesses and evidence find person guilty then the justice will be handed out. If no witness no evidence than no harm to homosexual person can be done. Same principle as adultury between man and woman if in doubt case thrown out this the beauty of islamic justice system we don’t punish person if they found innocent.

Are you seriously calling Pakistan a secular state? Article 2 of the constitution says Islam is the religion of the state. The Objectives Resolution is part of the constitution. Federal Shariah Courts etc. So many of our laws are based on Shariah. We might not be a complete Islamic Static, but we’re definitely not secular.

What do you mean justice will be handed out - commit a homosexual act, given enough witnesses, the state is going to kill you? Thats justice?

@javedmiandad

Schools of thought in islam are permitted this not a problem for the state and non islamic sects like ahmadhi, bahi and other religions such christains, hindu, jews also have the rights which will be protected. We can look at history of islamic state for proof of this. Where did the jews run to when the spanish inquistion was happening in Andalusia? they run to capital of islamic state at time in istanbul how can you say islamic state does not provide rights to non muslims. History prooves it yet you say impossible to have it look at the evidences and you will see It is secularism that persecutes the people, and pakistan is your prime example of that even india the biggest demcoracy is the claim, is minorities like christian and muslims safe there you must be joking.

Just because at a point in time the Islamic State was the paramount in human rights etc, does not mean the same kind of Islamic State would hold that title today.

In India minorities may be persecuted, but imagine if the RSS types were supported by the majority of the people and they made a Hindu State (which India is not).