Why do females need a mahram for umrah and hajj. Was this something Prophet pbuh prescribed?
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When going for hajj/umrah you are going to obey Allah, therefore you should observe all the Islamic etiquettes of travelling which include a woman not leaving without a mahram to protect her.
My own belief: 'They' perv on women xD
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When going for hajj/umrah you are going to obey Allah, therefore you should observe all the Islamic etiquettes of travelling which include a woman not leaving without a mahram to protect her.
My own belief: 'They' perv on women xD
I second this
its because yes the Prophet SAW ordered for women to travel with a mehram everytime the journey consists of of 3 days or more .. back in Prophet SAWs time ..this was the distance and nowa days itss around 65 miles .. and therefore, your following the advice of the Prophet SAW ..
ps. not just cos what jafri says .. other issues could occur like getting lost, needing help with rituals of hajj if a mehram is accompnying life becomes alot more easier and the communication barrier is reduced as you wont have difficulty communicating in times of need ... it has many benifits.
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What if there is a female who doesn't have a mahram but can support herself for umrah and hajj? Sounds like poor thing would never get a chance.
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I have heard of groups where people go as groups (mostly in the West though) for Haj, where i think then they don't really need a mehram to accompany. but not sure.
Someone also told me that in Pakistan, ladies mark non-mehram people as mehram in their forms with some made up relation, just so they can go for Hajj. i would not be comfortable doing that though.
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What if there is a female who doesn't have a mahram but can support herself for umrah and hajj? Sounds like poor thing would never get a chance.
She can go with any other woman, who has a Mehram, like a friend going with husband etc
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I think it is for their safety as Hajj is very physically demanding. However, I think if a lady is able to do it on her own, she probably can, as long as she is healthy. I don't know why you would need a mehram.
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As far as her not getting the chance: She is doing the Haj for Allah swt right, so if she has this majboori and cannot, though her intention is there, then Allah niyyat ko Dekhta Hay and He surely understands :)
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She can go with any other woman, who has a Mehram, like a friend going with husband etc
the visa policy says it has to be a mahram not like a mahram...
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What if there is a female who doesn't have a mahram but can support herself for umrah and hajj? Sounds like poor thing would never get a chance.
The mahram can be anyone, doesn't just have to be the husband.
And this is why mutah was created..
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jafri 
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What? That's what mutah is for. Not what it's abused for.
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Why do females need a mahram for umrah and hajj.
As far as I know, this is not the requirement by shia ulema. A woman can do umrah and hajj without a mahram.
But obviously Saudi ulema are another category. They won't even allow a woman to drive a car due to this mahram issue, let alone performing hajj.
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My own belief: 'They' perv on women xD
Well then those perverts need a mahram. It is not woman's fault.
Isn't it? :)
By the way guys, a technicality. Spouse can NOT be considered a 'mehram'. Because mehram means one who is haram to have sex, like family members. But a woman can have sex with husband (honestly), therefore husband is not a mehram.
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the visa policy says it has to be a mahram not like a mahram...
Lusi call your local Hajj mission, as far as i know, a woman can go as accompanied person with another family. Also woman more than 45 years can go alone.
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By the way guys, a technicality. Spouse can NOT be considered a 'mehram'. Because mehram means one who is haram to have sex, like family members. But a woman can have sex with husband (honestly), therefore husband is not a mehram.
Now thats quite funny.
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Well then those perverts need a mahram. It is not woman's fault. Isn't it? :)
By the way guys, a technicality. Spouse can NOT be considered a 'mehram'. Because mehram means one who is haram to have sex, like family members. But a woman can have sex with husband (honestly), therefore husband is not a mehram.
Technically your technique is flawed.
Mehram is a person with whom you can not marry. spouse is the person to whom you are already married. Thus you can not re-marry the same person whilst you are still married to him, hence he is a mehrem.
You can turn milk into yogurt, but there is no concept of making re-yogurt whilst it is already a processed yogurt
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As far as I know, this is not the requirement by shia ulema. A woman can do umrah and hajj without a mahram. But obviously Saudi ulema are another category. They won't even allow a woman to drive a car due to this mahram issue, let alone performing hajj.
This is one of the few good things Saudies have done
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When i went to perform Umrah, I'd seen two different groups of females one Malaysian and second Iranian ladies. They all accompanied by one Mu'alam (Male travel guider). The groups of ladies were around 20 to 40 each. I asked Mu'alam of Malaysian ladies why in your group i can't see any male and he told in Malayisa if any girl would like to marry some1 then she have perform Hajj or atleast Umrah. After she'll accepted. Didn't get chance to ask Iranian's Mu'alam.
Well i think if a alone woman would like to do Umrah or Hajj then she can perform it with a groups meant only for females. Otherwise she can hire a male person to perform Umrah in replace of her.
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*Praise be to Allaah. *
A woman who does not have a mahram to travel with does not have to go for Hajj or ‘Umrah, and she is excused if she does not go. It is haraam for her to travel for Hajj or for any other reason without a mahram, and she has to be patient until Allaah makes it easy for one of her mahrams to travel with her.
The ways of goodness are many. If a Muslim cannot do one act of worship, he may strive hard in those acts of worship that he can do, until Allaah makes it easy for him to do the acts of worship that he could not do.
By the bounty of Allaah towards His believing slaves, if a person resolves to do an act of worship but he is unable to do it because of some excuse, he will be granted the reward of one who does it. Al-Bukhaari (4423) narrated from Anas ibn Maalik (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came back from the campaign of Tabook and when he drew close to Madeenah he said: “In Madeenah there are some people who, whenever you marched or crossed a valley, were with you.” They said: “O Messenger of Allaah, but they were in Madeenah.” He said, “They were in Madeenah because some excuse kept them back.”
The scholars of the Standing Committee said:
A woman who does not have a mahram does not have to do Hajj, because in her case a mahram is part of being able to do Hajj, and being able to do it is one of the conditions of Hajj being obligatory. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And Hajj (pilgrimage to Makkah) to the House (Ka‘bah) is a duty that mankind owes to Allaah, those who can afford the expenses (for one’s conveyance, provision and residence)”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:97]
It is not permissible for her to travel for Hajj or for any other purpose unless she is accompanied by her husband or a mahram, because of the report narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him), that he heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “No man should be alone with a woman unless her mahram is present, and no woman should travel unless she has a mahram with her.” A man stood up and said: “O Messenger of Allaah, my wife has gone out for Hajj, and I have enlisted for such and such a campaign.” He said: “Go and do Hajj with your wife.” This was also the view of al-Hasan, al-Nakha’i, Ahmad, Ishaaq, Ibn al-Mundhir and ashaab al-ra’i, and it is the correct view, because of the verse quoted, as well as the general meaning of the ahaadeeth which forbid a woman to travel without her husband or a mahram. Maalik, al-Shaafa’i and al-Awzaa’i held a different opinion and each of them stipulated a condition (allowing her to do that), but with no evidence. Ibn al-Mundhir said: they did not follow the apparent meaning of the hadeeth, and each of them stipulated a condition (allowing her to do that), but with no evidence.
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah li’l-Buhooth al-‘Ilmiyyah wa’l-Ifta’, 11/90, 91
And they said:
If the situation is as described – that it is not easy for your husband or a mahram of yours to travel with you to perform the obligation of Hajj – then you are not obliged to do it so long as this is the case, because the accompaniment of your husband or mahram on the journey for Hajj is one of the conditions of Hajj being obligatory for you. It is haraam for you to travel for Hajj or for any other purpose without that, even if you go with your brother’s wife and a group of women, according to the correct scholarly view, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “No woman should travel except with a mahram.” (Saheeh – agreed upon). That is unless your brother also travels with his wife, in which case it is permissible to travel with him, because he is a mahram for you. Strive to do righteous deeds that do not need you to travel, and be patient in the hope that Allaah will make things easier for you and enable you to go for Hajj with your husband or mahram.
Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah li’l-Buhooth al-‘Ilmiyyah wa’l-Ifta’, 11/96.
And Allaah knows best.