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Pakistan left up in arms
By Robert Craddock
February 8, 2005

ARMED with the contents of a private investigation, an angry Pakistan cricket team believes Australia bluffed its way to a 6/1 advantage in dubious umpiring decisions this summer.

Coach Bob Woolmer yesterday revealed Pakistan became so concerned about their misfortune with close calls they conducted a secret video review of every decision judged by technology to be incorrect throughout the summer.

“It went 29-5 against us,” Woolmer said before leaving for Pakistan yesterday.

Woolmer believes Australia reaped the benefit from more theatrical appealing and fanatical home town support which triggered umpiring misjudgments, even if, as in most cases, the adjudicators were from overseas.

“Umpires are not cheats. I would never accuse them of that. But I do believe they are influenced by the way teams appeal and by the crowds,” he said.

"The Australians play this part of the game very well. The way they appeal and the way the crowd supports them creates subconcious pressure on umpires and it shows.

“People can say an umpire gives a decision on what he sees rather than the appeals but I disgree. The appeal is very much a part of it. It is a very fine line.”

Woolmer will study the boisterous way the Australians appeal in a bid to make his team more effective at the art.

“I am looking at how we can do it better, even if that means training at it,” he said. "Maybe we need to appeal only when we are certain it is out and appeal very strongly.

"Also there are ways of conducting yourself when you are batting to get the message across to an umpire that an appeal against you is not out. We must look at that as well.

"The team has taken it well but there were five close decisions which went against us in the first (one-day) final on Friday night. It was too hard to take. And then came the second final when Adam Gilchrist was plumb lbw early and given not out (by South African umpire Rudi Koertzen).

“Quite frankly Australia were the better side against us this summer but some of these decisions made a huge difference. You are talking about decisions which players’ careers rested on.”

Woolmer believes the controversial Hawkeye tracking system should be used in international cricket.

"I am not saying it’s perfect but I am a fan of Hawkeye. At the very least it is the same for both sides so you take all those other factors out of play. I am not having a go at umpires because they get it right well over 90 per cent of the time.

"But if the technology is there why not use it?

“People say that if you introduced Hawkeye it would rob the umpires of incentive to do their jobs but there would still be a lot for them to do.”

The Pakistan Cricket Board has responded to the umpiring furore by sending a letter to the International Cricket Council urging for the appointment of two neutral umpires for one-day games.

Presently Test matches contain two neutral umpires with one neutral and one home umpire at international one-dayers.

Woolmer said there was no lingering bad blood between allrounder Abdul Razzaq and Brett Lee, to whom the Pakistani unleashed two beamers and was withdrawn from the attack in the second final in Sydney.

“Both balls were accidents and they were fine with each other when they spoke after play.”

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A dumb would have called it a lbw. Cant get more obvious that this.
2nd final (Raana to Gilli, 4th Ball. Gilli at 12. Made 43)

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Aussie coach 'offended'

Aussie coach 'offended'

John Buchanan believes Bob Woolmer's criticism of umpires is offensive to the men in white coats and completely dismisses suggestions that Australians appeal in a manner designed to force decisions their way.

Woolmer, the Pakistan coach, left Australia yesterday armed with statistics he claimed showed Buchanan's team won the close calls from umpires 29-5 during the three Tests and five one-day cricket matches between the sides this summer.

Australia won all but one game to leave Woolmer's job on the line.

His departing verbal shot included claims that umpires were influenced by voracious appealing by the Australians, the crowds, and even went so far as to make the bizarre suggestion of training his own players to appeal "better."

Buchanan said today umpires had the right to be offended by the comments from Woolmer, the former England Test player who was employed by the International Cricket Council (ICC) as its high-performance manager before becoming Pakistan coach.

"I haven't seen everything Bob said but I read about the 29-5 statistics," said the Australian mentor.

"I think he needs to be careful in what he says. At the end of any game the focus always tends to be on the one or two decisions that may have gone against a side, but we need to accept that umpires are having to make a huge number of decisions every game and we can't expect them all to be right.

"Most of them are right, but the umpires are human. They would be in their rights to have an objection to the suggestions being made. For someone who has been in such a senior position (at the ICC), I would think certain individuals would take a very dim view of some of these comments."

Buchanan scoffed at the idea of Australia's players trying to harangue umpires into putting their fingers up, saying: "There are procedures in place to deal with any sorts of problems like that. The referee and umpires would have stepped in immediately if that was the case."

Woolmer said Hawkeye, the tracking device designed to show television viewers whether or not a batsmen has been LBW, could be used to help umpires make their decisions.

But, as Buchanan suggested, Hawkeye is flawed. It seems to give a lot of players out.

Radio commentator Kerry O'Keefe was on to something when he said Sir Don Bradman would have averaged about five if Hawkeye was around in his day.

"People have to be pretty well educated in how these systems work - the technology is nowhere near infallible," said Buchanan.

"If it was 100 per cent accurate maybe their would be an argument for it, but it's not that accurate."

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^ Can you please make sure that links are provided or the posts will be removed in future.

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Thats not rocket science or ‘umpires are human’ matter. It is simply a matter of extremely incompetent or inconsistent umpiring.

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**43 - 12 = 31. - **Pak loses the 2nd final by 31 runs!

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^^ smart

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toba toba

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Cant hit in more middle than this. I guess its middle of the middle stump !

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I think you guys are being unfair to the umpires. Just the ball hitting in the middle isn’t enough for an LBW decision. According to the LBW law, the ball also must NOT pitch outside the line of leg stump. This particular ball pitched right on the border line and you just can’t accuse an umpire who is watching it all with a naked eye.

I am not saying that it was NOT OUT. It definitely was but you can’t call it biased or poor umpiring. I have seen more plumb decisions being turned down in the past by Pakistani home umpires.

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^ Did you see Inzamam's LBW in 2nd final? You should see it again.

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i second it. u should see it. similar to this. this one is evn more obvious.

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Watch LBW appeals against Symonds in first final and then revisit Inzimam and Azhar dismissals in second final. You will know how are we hurt by these ‘borderline’ decisions.

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Aussies use deception and intimidation , that explains their numero uno spot,I did not see any thing extra ordinary to suggest they are,:-|:k:

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Funguy that ball had all the ingrediants required to get a LBW decision from any umpire in the world. IMO we can at least call it “poor” umpiring if not “biased”. I don’t mid umpires being too strict or lenient BUT (in caps) they should be consistent with their stance. IF umpires are giving this not out, how the hell they can give INZI out?

To your 2nd point, ager yee koi Pakistani Umpire hota against UK or AUS tu abhee tak elite panel sai nikaal deya gaya hota. Media nai itna shoor kia hota k at least first degree murder case ban jata :slight_smile:

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To your 2nd point, ager yee koi Pakistani Umpire hota against UK or AUS tu abhee tak elite panel sai nikaal deya gaya hota. Media nai itna shoor kia hota k at least first degree murder case ban jata
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i disagree. no one takes it that serious. Just recently Aleem Dar did terrible umpiring in SA. Though criticized, he has still not gone under any scrutiny by ICC. ICC knows that mistakes happen but they should know that what happened in VB series doesnt happen everyday.