UK Muslim Group start Blind Date party?

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Assalam alaikam

With the campaign of terror against muslims happening a UK based muslim group have started a new novelity which the kuffar have been doing for years. Blind Date Marriage for Muslims Astagfirullah may allah guide these people!

http://mpacuk.org/mpac/data/5e2d7b2a/5e2d7b2a.jsp

Kismat is an innovative service designed to provide a halal**(Highly Doubltful)** platform where Muslim men and women can meet and get to know each other for the purpose of marriage, Insha’Allah. Kismat is offering the opportunity to allMuslim men and women who are single and have sincere intention to marry to come forward and seize their destiny.

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don't call me daft but...

i really don't see whats so terribly bad about this, and that's not saying i apporve of it either..

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I don't think this is halal men and women moving from table to table checking opposite sex out this does'nt seem islamic at all almost somthing the kuffar do not what muslims should be doing!

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Astagfirullah !!! .. brother iVanDrago .. this is truly shocking and agaisnt strict violation of the golden islamic rules written by the taliban government. God protect our souls from being corrupted

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*Originally posted by IvanDrago: *
I don't think this is halal men and women moving from table to table checking opposite sex out this does'nt seem islamic at all almost somthing the kuffar do not what muslims should be doing!
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oh okay, sorry it's late, i'm feelin dopey.

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originally posted by Gamma Dilation

Astagfirullah !!! .. brother iVanDrago .. this is truly shocking and agaisnt strict violation of the golden islamic rules written by the taliban government. God protect our souls from being corrupted
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thats off the topic, has nothing to do with taliban. perhaps you can show your creativity somewhere else.

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I really dont see anything wrong with it. People have to meet somehow somewhere to pick their spouses. What is the issue with serious marriage minded people talking to others.

Or maybe chai parades are all so islamic that everyone should stick to that. :smiley:

how should people meet then? if i recall several very respected figures in our religiosu history had met or seen someone somewhere and then approached them for marriage. I guess by the puritans prudish rules, their halal approach was doubtful too… :nono4:

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bhai meray this is wrong b/c in Islam even looking at a person with emotional feelings becomes haram but they are there to check each other out …
there are many other ways clearner ways…
throught parents get to know each other througgh friends…

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If the women sport hijab while typing on the computer using this service, will it be ok then?

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Nothing wrong with this, it can be of great benefit for Muslims.

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very creative.

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aa, the comments of the person who started this thread are highly blinkered and very ill -informed. I was at the last Kismat event in December (i informed people of the upcoming event on the general message board a couple of weeks ago) i am assuming he wasnt otherwise he would not malign it in such a way. This is in no way a blind date marriage service (how ridiculous!!), it is attended by people with a view to marriage, (everyone one of them educated professional Muslims) and chaperoned by other Muslims. Parents are also encouraged to attend.

Indeed all those who arranged and attended it are observing Muslims, to condemn their good intentions is highly unIslamic. Also the latest Kismat is being held at Yusuf Islam's restaurant, does anyone think he would support something that isnt halal???!!

This is sevice which is very needed among British Muslims and has been attempted by others such as Arrum (www.arrum.co.uk) and 'Missing Rib'
several Muslims attend these events, no one has branded them unislamic and they have proved sucessful, not everyone has the advantage of parents who will introduce them to future partners or arrange their marriages, for examples reverts frequently have such problems.

My parents will probably attend this event along with my sister they think its a great idea, much better than having the usual 'rishta' awkard meetings...

pls do check out the MPAC site and the Kismat site.
www.mpacuk.org
www.kismat.co.uk
ws aaf

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Originally posted by delight_*: *

bhai meray this is wrong b/c in Islam even looking at a person with emotional feelings becomes haram but they are there to check each other out ...

even if the feelings are honorable. I think there is a diff between staring at someone on the street (which desis are excellent at) and meetinf someone with an intention to get to know the person and marry them.

*there are many other ways clearner ways...
throught parents get to know each other througgh friends... *

whichever way you get introduced..eventually you see the person and interact with the person. how is meeting someone at such an event be different than, meeting someone at school, thorugh family or friends?

The only reason events like this are even needed..are because other institutions have failed miserably in this area.

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Sounds like an interesting idea. Do let us know how it played out.

Thanks.

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Aafreen

yusuf islam has business intrests and as a business man he also hires his hotel to muslims who talk about jihad which your group openly attacks. So where do you stand on that!

Also this event sounds too wierd muslims eyeing each other up and moving from table to table sounds real unislamic!

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For all you Mod Muslims who have daughters or sisters who are unmarried, send them to this blind date party. Check your ghairat and hayaa at the door please...:)

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im sorry i didnt realise people who arent in the UK have no knowledge of the situation here, consider themselves to have a monopoly on the truth and are holy enough to pass jugdment on other Muslims.....
other info....

The Froud Centre Circles Presents a Special Seminar:

WHY ARE SO MANY SISTERS UNABLE TO GET MARRIED?

WHY ARE SO MANY BROTHERS GOING BACK HOME TO GET MARRIED?
WHY HAVE DIVORCE RATES SOARED AMONGST "PRACTICING" MUSLIMS IN THE UK?

Date: Sunday 16th March 2003
Time: 11.00 am - 3.00 pm

The number of unmarried sisters and brothers in their late twenties

and thirties has risen dramatically over the last 10 to 15 years.

This unnatural and somewhat difficult state of affairs has arisen

due to a complex mixture of factors. Some have decided to pursue

extended careers and have consequently delayed the marriage process

considerably. Others have set themselves criteria for their

potential partner which are unrealistic or even impossible. Others

have become caught up in between Western and Eastern influences.

Sadly, many Muslims nowadays have been unable to deal with these

issues, and with nowhere to turn to, they have become worried,

depressed or even involved in activities contrary to Islamic

principles.

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marriageable age today? How can these be balanced in a healthy way

for the benefit of the individual as well as the Ummah as a whole?

What is the Islamic perspective on all this?

The panel of speakers who have considerable experence in Islamic

marriage related issues in a Western context will highlight the

causes of these problems and insha'Allah outline steps that Muslims

could take, both individually as well as a community, in dealing

with such problems in a sensitive yet pragmatic manner.

There will also be a practical session as part of the event, where

participants would be split into small groups to discuss a variety

of issues. Feedback from these group exercises would then drive the

panel discussion and provide a forum for the interests of different

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addressing these particular issues in the UK. We look forward to

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*Originally posted by Lajawab: *
For all you Mod Muslims who have daughters or sisters who are unmarried, send them to this blind date party. Check your ghairat and hayaa at the door please...:)
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do people check their ghairat and hayaa when they make their sisters or daughters do the chai parade? :)

or how about when ppl are forced to do watta-satta ..

how about women who cantget married because the ladies looking for their sons want a chand si bahoo even if the son is an ogre?

is it a question of mod muslims or is it a question of muslims who are looking for ways to find an appropriate spouse?

I would say it again, this event would not be needed had our institutions bothered to serve their community needs.

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I very much agree Fraudz....
pls see quote from:

A Brother that attended the last KISMAT event:

"Being a total stranger to marriage events such as the one in December organised by KISMAT, I was a little hesitant to put my name down.

Having attended, I look back and have no regrets that I did put my name down, and I encourage all open-minded Muslims not to hesitate either.

The organisers did a great job of providing excellent food in a great location and the evening turned out to be a total success.

I did not find my future partner but I learnt a lot about the importance of "finding the right partner in the right way"

At the event, there were set exercises formulated to allow people to bring to the surface their ideas and values in relation to marriage. They were good fun and often great learning. It was a great way to allow everyone to meet everyone. They also enabled you to identify at a reasonably introductory level with the people sitting on your table.

Following the exercises we spent the rest of the evening reflecting on the possibilities. Finally we handed to the INDEPENDENT facilitators a sheet of paper detailing our possible candidates, and hoping to be introduced at a later stage.

Marriage is a huge affair for every Muslim, since it is known to be the completion of half your religion. Any event that assists the cause in a HALAL fashion is great for us Muslims in the UK. I pray that the KISMAT team

is rewarded for their sincere efforts and their efforts lead to successful marriages."

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[QUOTE]
*Originally posted by Fraudz: *

do people check their ghairat and hayaa when they make their sisters or daughters do the chai parade? :)

or how about when ppl are forced to do watta-satta ..

how about women who cantget married because the ladies looking for their sons want a chand si bahoo even if the son is an ogre?

is it a question of mod muslims or is it a question of muslims who are looking for ways to find an appropriate spouse?

I would say it again, this event would not be needed had our institutions bothered to serve their community needs.
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All are inappropriate practices...That's what our mission is once again...To abolish stupid practices...