and what about those who comdemn him just because he is a bum? I dont care if he is a muslim or not, although he is the one who has brought in religion angle by talking about 'islam zindabad'
so you are justfying one wrong for another?
not sure what it has to do with a bum abusing the system.
well since you are so quick to condemn those who have mortgages (or 'islamic financingg' because its the same damn thing) or credit cards (which btw are no issue if you are not carrying a balance anyways).
Its amusing how you cant find anything wrong with him.. UN, security council, mortgages, credit cards, checking accounts...but not this guy.
we whether u care or no matters none bcos the fact remains he IS a MUSLIM and ur using using god given damn right to condemn another muslim. this whole story started simply bcos he IS a MUSLIM. rest matters nothing.
as for abusing the system...well which system is not being abused? name one? and then stand up against its abuse and don't try to use muslims as an excuse to feel all mighty and superior. that will be the day when i'll see the likes of you standing up a white man for abusing the system. but then i am very sure that such a day will never come and we all know why.
I am using my god given right to condemn what I see as wrong, from my intial pst in thsi tread I have noted that same abuse happens in US and in Uk by non muslims too. who cares how the story started, there are stories of non muslim dole abusers too, or were those ppl secretly muslims too. so regardless of who ‘reported’ it, the ‘stiry’ started when this guy decided he could live on dole even though he is able bodied.
I do see that you are using your god given ability to go on tangents and not criticize this man for being a cheapskate had haraam just because he is a muslim. rest matters nothing.
as I said, lets not use one wrong to justify another wrong.
well and we know that the likes of you will never comdemn a terrorist, a criminal, a murderer, an abusive husband, parent whatever for abusing the system but then i am very sure that such a day will never come and we all know why..
i dont understand the partisan, you’re either support the Muslim or you support the white man mentality at play here. at this rate you will be supporting every rapist, high-way robber who starves children in his basement by saying that the world is mostly run by white people in the US who are controlled by the jews.
its nonsensical and completely irrelevant.
i am against welfare completely, and this is exactly why. It doesnt matter that hes Muslim, what does matter is that this leeching, mendicant sort of behaviour where you live exclusively off the earnings of others is completely immoral, even if legal. in context of Islam, as I am sure many of us set our moral compasses in accordance with it, there are the following ahadith for you to consider:
Is there any doubt that welfare is government provided charity? He gave up his job to live on welfare (and there are many others who do so) remember, and he is able bodied, so he clearly doesnt meet the Islamic criteria for recieving charity.
Is there any doubt that welfare is government provided charity? He gave up his job to live on welfare (and there are many others who do so) remember, and he is able bodied, so he clearly doesnt meet the Islamic criteria for recieving charity.
Why would you ever defend this?
Hyperactive would much rather defend the ills of a Muslim for the sake of defending a Muslim than say he/she is a bum.
At the same time you characterized it as a "Muslim" aspect of things, instead of say saying Punjabi, or South Asian, or Man in his forties.
there is a certain spin there that is calculated to draw this reaction.
The man himself legitimizes his exploits by saying he's Muslim. Had he stood high and proud and said he cheats the system because he's Punjabi, South Asian, bald or even human for that matter - rest assured I'd have mentioned it.
The man himself legitimizes his exploits by saying he's Muslim. Had he stood high and proud and said he cheats the system because he's Punjabi, South Asian, bald or even human for that matter - rest assured I'd have mentioned it.
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Im not sure you would. Where does he say that he cheats the system because hes Muslim? You characerized it as a Muslim's contribution, whereas the closest reference to Islam I find in the two articles you post is him saying that UK is great it has welfare, Pakistan isnt great because it doesnt, and Islam has welfare. Taking a leech's views on Islam (is it a big surprise that people would twist any religion to suit their lifestyle?) to paint it as a Muslim contribution to the UK is simply dishonest pretence. I happen to think that Pakistan has a much more Islamic model of welfare than the UK and can back that up. prove me wrong or dont try to characterize it as a Muslim thing.
Lets just say, as per the reference I posted above, this fella wouldnt be recieving welfare in any idealized or extant Muslim state.
Im not sure you would. Where does he say that he cheats the system because hes Muslim? You characerized it as a Muslim's contribution, whereas the closest reference to Islam I find in the two articles you post is him saying that UK is great it has welfare, Pakistan isnt great because it doesnt, and Islam has welfare. Taking a leech's views on Islam (is it a big surprise that people would twist any religion to suit their lifestyle?) to paint it as a Muslim contribution to the UK is simply dishonest pretence. I happen to think that Pakistan has a much more Islamic model of welfare than the UK and can back that up. prove me wrong or dont try to characterize it as a Muslim thing.
Lets just say, as per the reference I posted above, this fella wouldnt be recieving welfare in any idealized or extant Muslim state.
doesn't it simply mean that MOST of MUSLIMS are contributing to society in same way?
unfortunately, that's not too far from the truth. something like 40-45% of british pakistanis and bangladeshis are on welfare...they have the highest poverty & unemployment rates in the nation.
