UK Gov't Pays for Muslim bum with 11 children

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^ he is a hud haram, no doubt about it.. but I fail to see the logic behind "Another great contribution to society from a Muslim in Englishland" bit.
doesn't it simply mean that MOST of MUSLIMS are contributing to society in same way? and most of British Muslims are good for nothing?.

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Its a sad and unfortunate fact that although the very vast majority of desis living there are upstanding, income earning, taxpaying citizens, they just arent newsworthy. Its the clowns like mr no-condom that make the papers.

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^ exactlly, the fact is that teh "Orig Source" and "Better Source" has a history for picking on minorities, to exaggerate and puting things out of context, in the past many of their stories were proven wrong and they never bothered to print an apology.
According to DPW addiction to rock music and being alcoholic is also a disability and people are getting benifits for that, but they never make headlines. They are quick to pick on asians, especialy muslims from Pakistani origin and WE are quick to feel ashamed and guilty for wrong doings of few individuals, which in my opinion is even worse. Even after 2nd and 3rd generation, some of us here can't get that inferiority complex out of our system, which is pathetic.

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We cant give real issues a free pass by sticking our heads in the sand. That approach is what got the pakistani community where it is today in comparison to other communities and that is what is really pathetic.

whether this assclown was desi, african, chinese..dunn matter, he is abusing the system. Saying he is wrong to do this has nothing to do with shame or guilt, it has simply to do critique of a dodgy act. inferiority complex would be if one was not able to criticize the wrong actions of someone because of religious, ethnic affinity.

Lets see what Muslim Council of Britain has to say about the position Pakistanis find themselves in. Its because in our comunities there, people who would speak up about issues in the community were told they had complexes and that all was hunky dory. so bhar mein jaye education, or trying to have a career. A community..well lets say a portion of a community from a particular background, was fat, dumb and happy in their own ignorance, victim mentality and lack of courage to face teh issues.

http://www.mcb.org.uk/library/statistics.php

enjoy the read, because things did not get here overnight, it is the tendency for people to give free pass to fellow Pakistanis and muslims, blame everything but the perps themselves, justify every wrong action.

pay special attention to thesde 2 topics

Disadvantage, Poverty, Unemployment
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Allah inhin khush or salmat rakhy ameen or baqion ko nyki ki tofeeq dy duniy aper kuch reham karin ab:(

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Every person who is pointing a finger at this person should first ask themselves this: Will they put food on the table of this person? If yes, then you have every right to criticise his lifestyle, however if no, then keep your trap shut...

The US is spending about 400 billion dollars a year to kill innocent people in Iraq...The UK spends about 7 billion pounds a year for the invasion of Iraq in which nothing but innocents die...Most of the people who have their diapers in a knot about this, are the same people who wouldn't say a word against atrocities...And the thread starter himself, who once stated 'survival of the fittest' concerning the occupation of Palestine stating it wasn't wrong at all, is now finding fault in this man and his lifestyle...

What a bunch of measly hypocrites...

This man has every right to gain whatever and however for his family and himself and if this means living off welfare, so be it...People make leaders of the same people who have cheated, lied and killed to attain power and status...This person is much and way better than them...

And if someone os so concerned about him, perhaps they should start off by sending this guy money and ask him to stay off welfare asthey themselves will take care of his family...

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^^ :smilestar: Main ny tu dua di hy unhin ky Allah khyr salamti sy rakhy. Magar tumhari batin baja phir bhi dosron ko kahun gi khudara bas or bhi tareeqon sy Islam ki khidmat ho sakti hy.(Muslims ko do hi tareeqy aty hain 1st Ahly Kitab Gorion sy shadi or 2nd byhisab abadi:D)
PS: Teesra tareeqa tumhary zehan main khidmaty islam ka koi hu tu mujhy bhi batana:desimunda:

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ok so this man is welcome to cheating and defeating a system that was put in place to assist those IN NEED. Good for him... he has a nice place to live, a nice bus to transport his family around and apparently has the time to publicly critisize the country that provides him with all of this.

MEANWHILE, the people who are educating themselves and working towards a better world are getting ahead in business, politics and world economics. Complain all you want about foreign policy, it aint gonna change till people who disagree with it GET INVOLVED.

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Hyperactive has problems reading: skipped part in article where his hero had another job but quit because it was easier on his lazy bum to claim welfare and shag his wife.

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Since when is it anybody else's responsibility to take care of this sleazeball????

He's not some decrepit old man who is down on his luck and has noone to take care of him. Hes healthy, he teaches math, he was fully capable of taking care of his family by working but stopped because he wanted to!!

I'm sure it must've flown over your head but plenty of ppl here and Muslims in general are willing to help others who are in true need, by getting out the word and giving donations. There have been amny threads on here highlighting particular cases and the majority of members have tried to help their best, so no we're not a bunch of miserly hypocrites.

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Speaking of measly hypocrits, its rather amusing that the guy who is a self declared mouth piece for religion (a la islam zindabad) forgets what islam says about haq halal ki kamai.

Just because the guy uses the term 'islam' does not mean that his dodgy behavior gets a free pass.

but then hey, other champions of faith in UK claim that local laws dont even apply to them, and we get apologists for them justifying their actions by running to tangents.

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thanks for the link of Muslim British Council, Fraudia bhai.

indeed this example is bad and of course govt and media will cater to its other agendas, but it goes to highlight only the negative that people do.

all the good by law abiding and hard working Muslim and Pakistani citizens cannot be undermined merely because of this bad example.

best,
Dushwari

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dushwari.

all the good by law abiding and hard working Muslim and Pakistani citizens cannot be undermined merely because of this bad example

but

all the bad by law dodging and hadd haram Muslim and Pakistanis cannot be ignored merely because of who the messenger is or what good other muslims and pakistanis are doing.

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that's true too. Fraudia bhai. i realize what you are saying. and i concur with you.

thanks,
Dushwari

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My beef is with those whose tighty whities are knotted because they seem to have a free reign to condemn him because he happens to be a Muslim...Citing examples of him using money 'that was created for those in need'...Not everything created in need serves its purpose...Biggest example is the UN...The US uses its veto to legitimize its attacks on other hapless nations while vetoing against those that target it either itself or the illbegotten nation created in Occupied Palestine...

The UN was created for those in need...Nations and people that cannot defend themselves...Doesn't the US, beacon for all that is good, twist the laws of that organization to fill its needs?

So don't give me that 'in need' scenario...The security council was created for a need...It is unfortunate that it does not fulfil that need instead it is used to manipulate the system...

As for Haq Halal rozi: How many people have homes under mortgage? How many have credit cards? How many have interest bearing accounts? Even if you answer yes to any one of these, then already this makes him a better man...At least his rozi isn't haram...

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We condemn him b/c he's using his religion to be a lazy bum. Not b/c he's Muslim.

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and what about those who comdemn him just because he is a bum? I dont care if he is a muslim or not, although he is the one who has brought in religion angle by talking about 'islam zindabad'

so you are justfying one wrong for another?

not sure what it has to do with a bum abusing the system.

well since you are so quick to condemn those who have mortgages (or 'islamic financingg' because its the same damn thing) or credit cards (which btw are no issue if you are not carrying a balance anyways).

Its amusing how you cant find anything wrong with him.. UN, security council, mortgages, credit cards, checking accounts...but not this guy.

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:bummer:

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fizool baatein khatam karo and ans my questions

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