disgusting. and completely unislamic. these criminals need to be brought to book.
ksa is falling apart at the seams it seems. violence. apparently corruption is becoming commonplace now. bombings.
sad enough.. most of these rich brats would be penniless if the foreigners they're intent on driving out werent there to run their otherwise unskilled populace.
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who has most to gain by these actions..
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I am so ***damn sick of this answer/comment that I can't stand it anymore.
I dare you to explain to me Pakistani Abroad how the "zioninsts" and "neo-cons" have benefitted from creating a full scale clash of civilizations between the muslims and the west. What do they (collectively or individually) have to gain that they didn't already have. I dare/challenge you to state your contention. I invite anyone else or your side of the fence to join in as well.
although i dont supoort such acts beac tht was a civilian and killing of any american civlian is haram..but we have to look root cause....till american and jews dont stop their kilings this will happen...and infact it will happen again and again.....thts all beac of americans policy
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Originally posted by Ohioguy: *
The "Breaking News" on Al-Jazzeera is that "American hostage in Saudi Arabia has been **Killed*"
Not beheaded.
Not Brutally Murdered.
Killed, as if he forgot to wear his seatbelt.....
Ho hum...
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Photos show that these "brave Mujahadeen" didn't even have the decency to use a sword! Instead, they apparently "sawed" his head off using the knife shown leaning up against his severed head! Barbaric!
The sooner the planet is wiped clean of their ilk the better!
Peace To All Who Read This...
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*Originally posted by chalna: *
although i dont supoort such acts beac tht was a civilian and killing of any american civlian is haram..but we have to look root cause....till american and jews dont stop their kilings this will happen...and infact it will happen again and again.....thts all beac of americans policy
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Actually he was killed because he was an infidel on 'Muslim' soil.
wow! where do you get your information from? 
There are many non-Muslims living in Muslims countries. Everyday I see white people, caucasians in Karachi. Nobod hates them or treats them badly. In fact most of them are living in comfort. Muslims are hospitable and we treat our guests well.
What happenned was an exception, please don’t make it look like the norm.
If the person who was killed was innocent, justice will surely be served to the perpetrators, if not in this world by the govt, then by God in the afterlife, as Muslims we believe that.
Why is it though that when an American is killed people raise such a hue and cry and when whole populations are being bombed, the same people sit in silence? Justice is for all races, is it not? Or is an American life more valuable?
ahaan! Thank You! :k:
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*Originally posted by Ohioguy: *
What's more they are all Jews anyway, so it's OK...
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not if the Jew is innocent, its not.
our religion does not tell us not to take revenge but it teaches us not to take the lives of innocent people.
If we had a thread like this for every Muslim killed/totured/raped by US forces in either Afghanistan OR Iraq, then there wouldn't be room for anything else on this board.
But unfortunately we don't, so spare your sob stories. Seems like many are under the popular opinion that American blood shed is the only blood that matters. It goes both ways, it's part of war and you asked for it. It happend in Vietnam and it will happen here. If you can't take it, pack your bags and leave.
Nadia, you know what yaar, we, Muslims are the foolish ones who bend backwards to please others, we are sometimes just too nice.
The IMAMS OF MAKKAH are bringing this issue and pleading for the hostages.
This is what Muslims are about. Being nice to others, forgiving what they have done to us. Yet, we continue to get flak.
Why are we so foolish and why do we get apologetic about things which are not even our mistakes?
One the other hand, did Israel or America apologise for all the thousands killed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine? They continue unabetted.
Perhaps the time has come when we Muslims need to stop being so nice and become tough as well.
When innocents were being butchered by their thousands in Afghanistan and Iraq where was all the hue and cry. As Irem said it cuts both ways. You people ask us to stand up and condemn the brutal murder of this poor unfortunate guy. Well it also falls on you people to stand up and denounce the thousands butchered by your army in Afghanistan and Iraq. Where was your protest when daisy cutters were being used on poor helpless civilians. Set an example yourself before condemning others. Has your president or anyone in the administration ever said we are sorry for all the innocents killed in the two recent wars. Isn't it a shame that the two people you wanted to capture most are still at large and thousands of innocents are dead. If the people in the twin towers didnt deserve to dies, and they didnt, the same applies to the people of Afghanistan and Iraq. Or do you have double standards here?
thanks for taking the time to reply irem. Couldnt have said it better myself.
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Ahaaa selective 'memri' my friend?
"This" all started with the proxy war against the Soveits by none other than the "hero" Ronald Reagan. The CIA funded terrorism against the Soviet regime and a front was opened in Afghanistan/Pakistan... today's "Taleban terrorists" were yesterday's Mujahideen.. who dined at the White House and posed with Presidents.
Teaching extremist "jihadist" views in Pakistani Madrassahs used to be a good thing in those days. Your friend OBL is a CIA blowback.. all high up command in Al-Qayda were recruited from all over the Arab world.. the Al-Qayda recruitment tapes played today used to be played back then to call upon "Enemy combatants" around the world to save their brethern in Afghanistan from the "Godless" enemy; back then, being a Muslim warrior trying to oust an occupation force was a noble cause.
These "Mujahideen" trained in camps in Afghanistan funded and run by CIA/ISI; no wonder the US was so quick to find these 'training camps' and the "Al-Qayda" manuals..leftover how-to's from the Afghan "jihad" days.
The war ended, the Soviets were ousted.. these Mujahideen were disposed off like a used condom but the Frankenstein of trained Arab terrorists has come back a full circle to bite you in the a$$.. Congratulations.
Dear Peoples,
I can't stop thinking about the terror and pain suffered.
What if some outrageous American decided to kidnap an Arab in the U.S. or Europe and behead him...
for the simple reason that this hypothetical extremist disliked people from the mid-east attending European or American Universities?
Isn't Al Quaeda reasons for targeting Americans because of American presence in the Mid-east?
Particular Saudi Arabia?
The reasons for agression against U.S. and U.S. agression are sorely lacking...
(though I have to admit..these beheadings tilt my opinion toward this terror war)
.... though I question whether a war against terror is actually winable.
Aren't we all just people making the best life we can for the short time we are given on this earth?
Why waste so much time hating?
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What about the 50,000 innocent Iraqi people killed so far?
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*Originally posted by AvgAmericanGirl: *
Dear Peoples,
I can't stop thinking about the terror and pain suffered.
What if some outrageous American decided to kidnap an Arab in the U.S. or Europe and behead him...
for the simple reason that this hypothetical extremist disliked people from the mid-east attending European or American Universities?
Isn't Al Quaeda reasons for targeting Americans because of American presence in the Mid-east?
Particular Saudi Arabia?
The reasons for agression against U.S. and U.S. agression are sorely lacking...
(though I have to admit..these beheadings tilt my opinion toward this terror war)
.... though I question whether a war against terror is actually winable.
Aren't we all just people making the best life we can for the short time we are given on this earth?
Why waste so much time hating?
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well nice way to hide ur american terriosm..is not tht??..u americans have killed millions..u want these suffered people to respect u??..no..these things will happen till isreal and america dont leave their policy...no muslim feel pain for those beheaded americans..remember when WTC tower were destroyed,how much muslims were happy..do u no y>>...u say y we r wasting our short time of life on hateness..blah blah...huh...after killing whole humanity,u americans think tht people like u and will welcome u with oepn arms..miss live in practical world....abt saudia,al qeada view is exactly right....u americans have bought these so called prince and have captured their rescourses..al qaeda is doing good job.
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*Originally posted by PakistaniDragon: *
What about the 50,000 innocent Iraqi people killed so far?
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when those iraqis were not made of flesh and blood...so america have right to kill any iraqi..huh..al qaeda is doing right thing by kiling these americans..insalah tht day is not far away when there will be no american in saudia....AMEEN
Chalna,
We have captured Saudi resources? Opec no longer decrees the price?
What if its a U.S. citizen few years down the road causing terror in India or Pakistan…
for example…because of job losses?
Would you feel it okay about beheading an Indian Civilian?
Or a Pakistani Civilian?
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Chalna,
We have captured Saudi resources? Opec no longer decrees the price?
What if its a U.S. citizen few years down the road causing terror in India or Pakistan......
for example....because of job losses?
Would you feel it okay about beheading an Indian Civilian?
Or a Pakistani Civilian?
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hahahaha oh sorry u r american..i have to respect u oh i forget it,..u r most educated and "peaceful" people...oh i forget it...dude actually these politics games r too good for u to understand...is not tht fact tht americans have controlled all the oil referneries of iraq??..americans ahve controlled over all these saudis rescources...saudia government is like toy for u people..is not tht...even tht fact is saudia government is not legal ..hahah do u no tht...al qaeda is doing right thing by striking americans...again come out wht foox news tell u.....
americans have already done so much teror then wht "terror" u r talking abt..u people behave like innocents who dont no whts going on...americans killed more then 10000 iraqis since last year...due to sanctions,half million iraqis child died...u want them to love u..haha...we muslims r 1 body and we feel pain unlike u americans who dance on muslims blood
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*Originally posted by chalna: *
well nice way to hide ur american terriosm..is not tht??..u americans have killed millions..u want these suffered people to respect u??..no..these things will happen till isreal and america dont leave their policy...no muslim feel pain for those beheaded americans..remember when WTC tower were destroyed,how much muslims were happy..
Why did it make you happy?
do u no y>>...u say y we r wasting our short time of life on hateness..blah blah...huh...
You misunderstand me. I think time wasted better spent mending fences. U.S. included.
after killing whole humanity,u americans think tht people like u and will welcome u with oepn arms..
I don't recall that America killed whole humanity. I have been against agression toward Iraq from day one.
miss live in practical world....abt saudia,al qeada view is exactly right....u americans have bought these so called prince
Why such anger only toward Americans? If Americans have bought the Saudi's as you claim....why are you not angry at the Saud's?
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