The Americans telling more blatant lies, which are being exposed by the relevanty international authorities. I am sure the Bush regime will be firing more blanks in the near future…
BUSH CITED the aluminum tubes in his speech before the U.N. General Assembly and in documents presented to U.N. leaders. Vice President Cheney and national security adviser Condoleezza Rice both repeated the claim, with Rice describing the tubes as “only really suited for nuclear weapons programs.” It was by far the most prominent, detailed assertion by the White House of recent Iraqi efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. But according to government officials and weapons experts, the claim now appears to be seriously in doubt.
After weeks of investigation, U.N. weapons inspectors in Iraq are increasingly confident that the aluminum tubes were never meant for enriching uranium, according to officials familiar with the inspection process. The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the U.N.-chartered nuclear watchdog, reported in a Jan. 8 preliminary assessment that the tubes were “not directly suitable” for uranium enrichment but were “consistent” with making ordinary artillery rockets — a finding that meshed with Iraq’s official explanation for the tubes. New evidence supporting that conclusion has been gathered in recent weeks and will be presented to the U.N. Security Council in a report due to be released on Monday, the officials said.
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**It was by far the most prominent, detailed assertion by the White House of recent Iraqi efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. But according to government officials and weapons experts, the claim now appears to be seriously in doubt.*
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ah. So the particular claim in this issue being made by the Iraqi government was wholly accurate afterall (reference MSNBC article: "...a finding that meshed with Iraq's official explanation for the tubes"). It's a pity that Cheney, Bush, and Rice all repeated the claim without apparently bothering to verify its legitimacy.
"I fear that the information was put out there for a short-term political goal: to convince people that Saddam Hussein is close to acquiring nuclear weapons." Pretty sad indeed. If Iraq genuinely possesses nuclear weapons, then why all the need for these fabrications and inaccurate claims? Just let the truth speak for itself. The closer the US creeps towards invading Iraq, the more we can expect supposed horror stories of Iraq's alleged arsenals of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons - whether or not such claims possess a shred of legitimacy. It's lie first, check later.
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*Originally posted by Nadia_H: *Pretty sad indeed. If Iraq genuinely possesses nuclear weapons, then why all the need for these fabrications and inaccurate claims?
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You know very well that the US is not claiming that Iraq currently possesses nuclear weapons. Let's keep the debate honest here in Guppistan. If your position is the correct one, there is no need to fabricate or make inaccurate claims regarding the official position of the US government.
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by myvoice: *You know very well that the US is not claiming that Iraq currently possesses nuclear weapons. Let's keep the debate honest here in Guppistan. If your position is the correct one, there is no need to fabricate or make inaccurate claims regarding the official position of the US government.
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MyVoice, Saddam has been accused by the US of almost everything under the sun. If Iraq has not been accused yet of possessing nuclear weapons, then i would not be surprised if that is the next card thrown out. Rather than commenting on my supposed fabrications, do you have any specific comments regarding the Whitehouse's use of inaccurate information for the "short-term political goal" of convincing individuals that "Saddam Hussein is close to acquiring nuclear weapons"?
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Originally posted by Nadia_H:
The closer the US creeps towards invading Iraq, the more we can expect supposed horror stories of Iraq's alleged arsenals of chemical, biological and nuclear weapons - whether or not such claims possess a shred of legitimacy. It's lie first, check later.
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Spot on as usual Nadia. I remember US officials back in August/September last year how Iraq's was supposedly only three months away from building a nuclear weapon - a LIE. In 2001 they were heavily hinting of Iraqi links to the anthrax attacks - another LIE, especially after it was discovered it was some crazy American terrorist most probably at work? Lately we have had leading US regime official publicly going on about Al Qaida links to Iraq - more LIES.
Now this latest American LIE is being exposed by the IAEA.
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*Originally posted by myvoice: *
You know very well that the US is not claiming that Iraq currently possesses nuclear weapons. Let's keep the debate honest here in Guppistan. If your position is the correct one, there is no need to fabricate or make inaccurate claims regarding the official position of the US government.
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Thats why US is going there because Saddam has no nukes and Korea has.... See the difference chappal makes....
Well then.. guess only option for iraq that may avert this so called 'war' is to rename itself as North Korea.. such slap in the face of USAs proclaimed 'democracy'.. where 70% people are against war but te butchers in the white house still appear bent for more slaughter of the weak..
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Thats why US is going there because Saddam has no nukes and Korea has.... See the difference chappal makes....
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It does indeed. :)
A thing to note from that news article - By contrast, in Britain, the government of Prime Minister Tony Blair said in a Sept. 24 white paper that there was “no definitive intelligence” that the tubes were destined for a nuclear program.
So not even their British poodles believed their lies about Iraq's supposed nuclear ambitions.
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It does indeed. :)
A thing to note from that news article - By contrast, in Britain, the government of Prime Minister Tony Blair said in a Sept. 24 white paper that there was “no definitive intelligence” that the tubes were destined for a nuclear program.
So not even their British poodles believed their lies about Iraq's supposed nuclear ambitions.
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Malik,being a brit myself,i have to say to you that i have never resorted to calling your people dogs or anything like it ,i would appreciate the same from yourself.
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My Rhodesian friend I am but British myself, and I am saying nothing less than what British newspapers like The Mirror have been saying for a long while now.
But as a Pakistani foremost, I would never repeat what the Brit papers say.
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**I remember US officials back in August/September last year how Iraq's was supposedly only three months away from building a nuclear weapon - a LIE. In 2001 they were heavily hinting of Iraqi links to the anthrax attacks - another LIE, especially after it was discovered it was some crazy American terrorist most probably at work? Lately we have had leading US regime official publicly going on about Al Qaida links to Iraq - more LIES. Now this latest American LIE is being exposed by the IAEA.
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Well stated, Malik.
It's one lie after another - expect more of this particularly in the ensuing weeks as the US creeps closer towards war.
