Two Pakistani Jihadis arrested

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Amir Mir (Herald guy), has written a god article. He has discussed Khalil guy at the end

http://www.ocnus.net/cgi-bin/exec/view.cgi?archive=65&num=16994

Harkatul Mujahideen (HuM)

Led by Maulana Fazalur Rehman Khalil till recently, the HuM has regrouped and is working in a low-key manner under the name of the Jamiatul Ansar, but insisting that it has a non-militant agenda. As the Government’s anti-extremism drive brought into sharp focus Maulana Khalil’s alleged al-Qaeda links, he had to resign from the top slot of the organization in January 2005, as advised by his spy masters.

Khalil, who was released in December 2004 after an eight-month detention in a seven by seven foot cell, submitted his resignation at a January 2005 meeting of the ‘executive committee’ of the HuM and asked the committee members to elect Maulana Badar Munir from Karachi as the new chief. Khalil was reportedly interrogated on the charge of sending trained fighters to Afghanistan even after the 9/11 terror attacks. The second allegation was that some militants involved in the suicide attempts on Musharraf in Rawalpindi in December 2003 belonged to his organization. Intelligence sources, however, insist that Khalil remains in the good books of the establishment and would continue calling the shots from behind the scene, despite his resignation as the Harkat chief, which was nothing more than an eye wash.

Since early 2002, the Harkatul Mujahideen Al-alami (HuMA) - an offshoot of the HuM, has been accused of mounting several deadly attacks in Karachi, including two abortive attempts on General Musharraf’s life and a number of suicide bombings in the port city of Karachi. On September 29, 2001, the Government had banned the HuM following the Bush Administration’s September 24, 2001, decision to freeze HuM assets along with those of 26 other organizations and individuals in connection with a worldwide campaign against the possible sources of al-Qaeda-sponsored terrorism.

According to intelligence sources, about 50 highly trained operatives of the Harkatul Mujahideen, using the cover of the Harkatul Mujahideen Al-alami, are bent on targeting Musharraf and US interests in Pakistan. HuM’s association with Osama bin Laden was established on August 20, 1998, when US planes bombed the al-Qaeda training camps near Khost and Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan in retaliation to US Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania. The US bombs destroyed two HuM training camps and killed 21 of its activists. As of today, the US intelligence agencies believe the Harkat still retains links, like most other jehadi groups, with the Taliban remnants and al-Qaeda operatives hiding on the Pak-Afghan border. They recall that Khalil took hundreds of his men to Afghanistan after the US-led Allied Forces had launched operations in the country in 2001.

Despite enthusiastic applause from the West for anti-militancy efforts of Pakistan’s ‘visionary’ military ruler, it is evident that much remains to be done on the ground before these efforts will actually bear fruit. With changing scenarios all over the world, there has been a change of minds, yet what is required is a change of hearts.

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Lets hope America puts some pressure to have this guy arrested and sent to Guantanamo or something...

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ls,
they were funded and employed by the US 2 decades ago, then fired without notice, leaving them searching for new employment opportunities, hence this...

and no i dont know anythng about their actual existance or operations, ofcourse they are illegal among a lot of other things illegal that go on...

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Hey , What ever happened to paknews.com. it has been off the net since a while now. did americans shut it down.?
even tho based in US it was pretty much against US and ofcourse India.

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Before USA came to picture, Pak army was actively engaged in Afghanistan Jehad. USA did not employ them, but yes, did finance them thru pak army.

Pak army is the one actively involved with them. So the question is, why these camps r still operating?

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There was a time when "Jehadi" was something to be proud of. Now it is a crime.

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^^ And crime it should be. Jehadi = Terrorist, period.

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Well, USA and Pak army used Pakistan and innocent pakistanis in Afghanistan for long. It was glorious to be jehadi in those days.

But again, it boils down to individual’s beliefs and choices. No one pointed gun at the heads of killed jehadis in Afghanistan or kashmir. That was their option. If someone still thinks that Jehad is good, all power to him.

But the very concept of Pakistani americans to train outside USA and then come back to kill ppl is so evil.

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http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~2913557,00.html

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Jihad is a very big part of Islam. To equate it with terrorism is very disrespectful. Im not religous but even im very cautious in what say, especially about other religions. You dot see me critisizing the tennets of Hinduism. You should learn more about religon before making such statements…
Mods you should take notice!

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Comments like this show your ignorance.

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The context of my post is clear. Today, can you name a jihadi group which is not declared terrorist even by Pakistan? Today, violent jihad is globally considered terrorism. Say Jihadi in the West and the picture most will see is a bearded man cutting the head of an innocent person and taking pleasure at it.

I’m not trying to insult the idea of jihad, but pointing out the fact that the word “jihadi” today is understood by most people as the same as a terrorist. And that includes your own President who has said the same about private jihadi groups.

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Well, you should watch how your phrasing it. Most people today call everything a Jihad, but to say Jihad itself is the same as terrorism is being ignorant and quite insensative…
The president should be careful aswell, the two should not be synonamous. A Jihadi by definition cant be a terrorist. Whether America, Pakistan or anyone else thinks so, a Jihadi by definition is not a terrorist.
The Terrorists may call themselves Jihadis but that doesnt make them Jihadis in any way, and we should be careful to distiguish the two.
People are a bit sensative to this, even me..

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PP1, You need to take it up with the "bad" jehadis for that issue. They are the ones who have brought bad name to that word. Can you tell me one jehadi today, who isn't considered a terrorist by his home country or ther West? Can you blame anyone for thinking of a brutal beheading killer when someone says "jehadi"?

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if you can get past the word 'jihad', someone please answer this - what's so magical unique or intricate about "yea all good people! fight for good and God"....frankly Marines have better slogans.

So why do you guys (muslims) take something so obvious and rhetorical seriously? I mean, do you need to be told that you should strive for goodness?

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there is such a unrelenting exclusiveness demanded of the followers
is strive = jihad?

YUSUFALI: O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell,- an evil refuge indeed.
PICKTHAL: O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey’s end.
SHAKIR: O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.