Twin Blasts rock Karachi

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Re: Twin Blasts rock Karachi

@Sa1eem

I read all your post. Whatever you are writing shows that, either you are living in denial or are from amongst same group who do takfeer.

As for 3 points you made. Let me answer them one by one:

Actually, what surprises me is that I am mentioning the real problem as clearly as possible, and not playing blame game, but people like you want to cover up the problem (why, I can only guess).

Actually, it is not only me, but all Pakistan knows that the problem is ‘Khwarjees harming and killing Muslims’, and they also know who the Khwarjees are, but many are keeping quiet … because either they are sympathetic to Khwarjees as they have same beliefs in their heart … or are scared of Khwarjees. Unfortunately, taking advantage of people’s silence, people like you are trying to cover up the reality and do not want people to get reminded that fitna in Pakistan is fitna of Khwarjees.

When betterment of Pakistan is to talk about the reality (as much as possible), know the reality, and tackle the reality head-on, just the way this reality was tackled by Ali (RA) when he fought and killed almost all Khwarjees at battle of Naharwan.

I have done enough research on Khwarjee takfeeries and what they mean. Rather, it is other way round, that is, you are oblivious of the term and should learn, as not knowingly could lead you to join them and become Khwarjee too (be aware that if you would join Khwarjees than your Imaan and Amaal would not help you on judgment day, and end would be in lowest part of hell).

You made above comment on my following statement:

they are not even Muslim, as they are ‘Kharij-ul-Islam’ or ‘outside Islam’. ]

Have you gone beserk? The above statement I made is for Khwarjees, and obviously Khwarjis are outside the fold of Islam, so I am not doing any takfeer.

Actually, if considering Khwarjees as non-Muslim is sin then it was Ali (RA) who gave them this name and considered them out-side fold of Islam. So, would you say same about Ali (RA) too, that he called them Khwarjees’ (outside Islam) who use to call themselves Muslim and by doing that Ali (RA) became Takfeeri?

Reason to call these people Khwarjees (outside Islam) is obvious, and that is their doing takfeer on Muslims (call Shias Kafir, Sunnis biddati, etc) … and not only that, but they are harming, fighting and killing innocent Muslims, not for enmity, not for politics, not for land, not for money, not for power, not for influence, not for any worldly desires … but **for the religion they believe … the religion that is not Islam but it is ‘Shaitanic religion of Kfur’ **and thus they are Khwarjees.

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Actually I am completely against anyone calling anyone kaafir if that person believes on basic tenets of Islam.** **No one really knows who is right and who is wrong.
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One can label anyone Khwarjis and Takfeeris, terrorist, etc. and then tries to justify their killings. A very bad practice.

My first point was based on what I see is whenever these kind of crimes occur the knee-jerk response is to start looking for who did it and possible blame on one group or other.

Unfortunately neither the crimes are stopping, nor the blame game is.

There is a circle on which people keep going again and again.

Ultimately it is the responsibility of security agencies to find and punish culprits and that is the key to solutions of all such problems. One can blame other all one wants until the cows come home, the problem is in lack of security and administration not doing its assigned work.

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A side note on Khwarjis:
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Khwarjis were wrong and absolutely wrong in calling others kaafir and their extreme or hateful ideology is not what Islam preaches.**

But not everyone who calls other Kaafir is Khwarji. It takes more than that to be called a Khwarji.

Idiots belong to every group and this is how they do their business. They just need to be caught and tried for spreading hate.

No one really knows who uses such a sofisticated and high amount of explosives against civilians and I do not think anyone after listening to these idiots and Jaahil so called religious people will just go and start killing people randomly. It takes a whole lot than that.

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As to the definition: Khwarjis means those who went out. (Not those who were thrown out).

They were political forces and fought against majority Muslims including against Hazrat Ali RA and others for their strict and wrongful interpretations but still there are people from that group called **Ibadis **living in certain parts of ME and they are NOT called non-Muslims.

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Point three was based on your takfiri act. Very similar to those takfiris who try to justify others to be killed…“without any due process”.

**One cannot justify killing anyone after calling those “Kaafir”. No one!
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That is the take home message.