Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border

Things are getting interesting in these proxy wars…

Turkey downs Russian warplane near Syria border | World news | The Guardian

Nato-member Turkey has shot down a Russian warplane in the first time the alliance and Moscow have come to blows directly over the crisis in Syria.

Ankara and Moscow gave conflicting accounts of the incident, which appears to have occurred in an area near the Turkish-Syrian border straddling Iskenderun and Latakia.

The Turkish military said it scrambled two F-16 fighter jets after a plane penetrated Turkish airspace in the province of Hatay at 9.20am on Tuesday morning, warning it to leave 10 times in five minutes before it was shot down.

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lets hope things dont get escalated.

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That's more like it. Turkey shot down russian jet, after 5 times warning. Now russia, trying to victimisize itself. You do not want your jets shot down? Do not fly them into Turkish/NATO airspace. Pretty simple, really.

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Turkey has been a key player in supporting and arming terrorists in Syria. Russia has frustrated regime change hopes of the West and Turkey's ambition to annexe parts of Syria.

Turkey acted irresponsibly in shooting down the Russian aircraft. Even if it had intruded into Turkey it should have been escorted out. Now Russia will respond in a time and place of its own choosing to Turkish aggression. Turkey has lost more than it has gained.

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Pakistan should provide Turkey with nuclear weapons. These Russian pigs need to be wiped off from the face of the earth.

Iran+Assad+Russia is the ultimate evil alliance these days.

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Turkey can very well defend itself against Russia....also most likely US is going to help Turkey keeping the Russians out of Europe.

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apparently the jet was in Turkish airspace for all of 17 seconds......they issued 5 warnings in that time?
one pilot and one Russian soldier on a recovery mission are now lost to ISIS forces.

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Chalo show khatam…**

Turkey says ‘no tension’ after Russian airspace violation mistake, NATO cries foul**

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SU-34 attack plane taking off from the Hmeimim aerodrome in Syria. © Dmitriy Vinogradov / RIA Novosti

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The incident, which occurred on Saturday, saw Turkey scramble two F-16 jets after a Russian military aircraft crossed into Turkish airspace near the Syrian border.
Ankara also claimed that a MiG-29 fighter jet, which is used by both Russia and Syria, harassed two of its F-16’s on Sunday by locking radar on to them, as they patrolled the Turkish-Syrian border.
“Our position is very clear, we’ll warn any country that violates our borders in a friendly way. Russia is our friend and neighbor. There is no tension between Turkey and Russia in this sense. The issue of Syria is not a Turkish-Russian crisis,” Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told HaberTurk TV, as cited by the Hurriyet Daily, following diplomatic communications between Ankara and Moscow.
“What we have received from Russia this morning is that this was a mistake and that they respect Turkey’s borders and this will not happen again,” Davutoglu added.
The Russian Defense Ministry has said that bad weather caused the incident when Russian combat aircraft violated Turkish airspace.

Turkey’s Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu. © Umit Bektas / Reuters

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov confirmed the Russian ambassador had been summoned, telling reporters that “some facts were mentioned there which are to be checked.” There was no emergency meeting planned between Erdogan and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, Peskov said.
However, NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg called a meeting of the bloc members on Monday to discuss the situation, which he described as “unacceptable violations of Turkish air space.”
“Russia’s actions are not contributing to the security and stability of the region. I call on Russia to fully respect NATO airspace and to avoid escalating tensions with the alliance,” he said.
Russia started to carry out airstrikes against Islamic State on September 30, following a request from the Syrian government.
The military alliance also released a statement saying: "Allies strongly protest these violations of Turkish sovereign airspace, and condemn these incursions into and violations of NATO airspace."
“Allies also note the extreme danger of such irresponsible behavior. They call on the Russian Federation to cease and desist, and immediately explain these violations.”
US Secretary of State John Kerry also waded into the dispute. He said he had discussed the issue with his Turkish counterpart and that the US was “greatly concerned” by the Russian incursion.
"We are greatly concerned about it because it is precisely the kind of thing that, had Turkey responded … it could have resulted in a shoot down, and it is precisely the kind of thing we warned against," Kerry said during a visit to Chile.
US President Barack Obama has been critical of Moscow, saying that its actions are “only strengthening ISIL.”

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Monk pai,

i dont know if you are trolling or genuinely think that old news item from a violation weeks ago is related to the latest shoot down.

Russian pilot just went on the air saying he received no warnings. Putin went on the air last night and accused Turkey of bankrolling ISIS and buying their oil.

Show isnt khatam, pal. Turkey is in deep doo-doo.

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If the bear is going to poke it's nose into a know hive it's going to get stung eventually.

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Yes, but when Russia's leaders lie about having troops in Crimea, one can not take the word of their soldiers to be accurate either.

The fact is that Russia, like every country, tells great big lies in order to suit its own interests.

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^ remember when Russians denied shooting down Korean Airlines' Jumbo jet over Kamchatka islands in Russia. they finnaly accepted the responsibility after the audio was made available to them by the US. thay had no other way to deny shooting down the civilian aircraft hence admitted the reality.

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Turkey claims that the plane was in Turkish airspace for 17 seconds and it issued 10 warnings, and shot the plane using BVR capability from 60 miles away. Russians deny any warning being issued or entering Turkish airspace. Even if it is accepted that the plane did enter Turkey shooting the aircraft down was provocative and irresponsible. Russian view is that the attack was pre-planned and the Turkish ambushed the aircraft while it was bombing terrorists who happened to be supported by Turkey.

Russia may not attack Turkey due to the NATO umbrella, (even NATO countries are divided and some have strongly criticised Turkey behind closed doors and may not back Turkey in a war with Russia). However there will be a price to pay. The first is the economic cost of 3.5 million Russian tourists each year not visiting, which translates to billions of dollars loss to the Turkish economy. Secondly Russian is major supplier of gas to Turkey and could cut off its supply and alterative sources will be more expensive. Russia was also going to help Turkey build a nuclear reactor which may not happen now. Russia has cut off military contacts with Turkey.

Russia has beefed up security at its base in Syria and future bombers will be escorted by fighter planes, and the bombing against the terrorists in Syria will intensify whether Turkey likes it or not.

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Erdo pai has said some ridiculous things - didnt know it was russian plane or we'd have been nicer, russia is playing with fire, wants to meet Putin face to face etc.

On top of that he's jailed a couple of top journalists yesterday for their story exposing Turkey's sending in literally truckloads of arms into Syria.

Putin releases satellite pics showing ISIS oil tankers heading towards Turkey - being "smuggled".

vat a mess.

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Just like the Americans who released pics of chemical sites in Iraq and called it irrefutable evidence.

Putin is not there to fight ISIS but to support the butcher of Syria.

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Its interesting that you find Assad to be a butcher, but Saddam wasnt? Both are Baathists, and Saddam's numerous mini-genocides and chemical weapon attacks on the kurds make Assad look benevolent in comparison.

And today Erdo pai continues his floundering by saying he is now saddened at the shootdown.

Turkey is supporting some shady turkmen groups in Syria and is more likely than not using the Syrian war as an excuse to go after Kurdish rebels in Syrian territory. I don't think Erdo pai is running any less of an agenda than Putin is.

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Interesting that you see Assad as an angel and Saddam not. Where did I say Saddam was angel. I was pointing to the irrefutable "evidence" which you were alluding to. Both are vile persons and the bottom line is that what is happening in Syria is the result of the actions of this butcher who thinks Syria is his baap kee jagir and than you have a maniac like Putin supporting him. Another interesting fact for you, Putin didnt start bombing ISIS till they blew his plane before that he was busy butchering the opposition of Asad to save his savage regime.

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Fact of the matter is intervention in Iraq AND Syria are misguided.

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I just hope this isn't the trigger that sets of WW3.

In all the criticism of Islam these days, and Turkey being a bit more balanced in terms of religion, it really should have taken the peaceful way out of the situation.

10 warnings in 17 seconds doesn't make sense.

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All countries having their own agenda in syria May it right or not. What is right for one party is not right for other party. Turkey want to crush kurd rebels who are a pain in Axx for long... They want turkish friendly govt in syria same as USA wants USA friendly ( read slave rather than frinedly ) in many countries including PK.
PK wants a PK friendly govt in Afganistan hence supporting select group...

Story is same every where. In suhc world order might is right/

BTW RT ( russia today ) channel gives some interesting accounts . According to it , Turkish borders have been violated by Israelis plane 100 of times but no air strike took place. It seems this channel has nothing to do except about turkish news

Sad that Muslims , muslims ka haath jhatak kar non muslims ko pukar rahe hain for help and friendship / turkey, Saudi , pk with USA and Europe , and iraq , syria and Iran with Russia )
Qyamat ki nishanian hain