Turkey caught red handed trying to start a war with Syria based on lies

Peaceful protests started in Syria demanding more rights from Baath party a few years back. Syria’s neighbors like Turkey, Saudi, and UAE, saw it as an opportunity to overthrow Assad. This was a desire they had since long. Now they thought it was an excellent opportunity.
So they started stoking fire in Syria. They helped a section of Syrian opposition and turned demonstrations in a popular uprising whose aim was nothing short of overthrowing Assad out of power.

Now the only thing they have succeeded in doing is to destroy Syria completely. Rebels whom Turks and Gulf Arabs wanted to win are nowhere to be found. Instead Assad’s opposition overwhelmingly consist of the worst of the world’s scum, the takfiri terrorists gathered in Syria from around the world.

Assad’s opposition has earlier made several attempts to convince West to attack Syria by making false accusations of human rights violations from Syrian Army. For example, they used chemical weapons on their own people and then blamed it on Syrian army, even though everyone knew that it made little sense for Syrian army to do it when they were comfortably winning anyway.
But there still are many people who believe in lies perpetrated by Gulf Arabs and others against Syrian army.

However, this time around Tayyep Erdogan has been caught red handed. Youtube is banned in Turkey because someone from government leaked a conversation between Turkey’s ministers planning a missile attack on Turkey itself, and then blame it on Assad so as to inflict war on Syria.

This is just an incredible story. A sad story.
Turkey was the last country I thought would stoop so low.

http://rt.com/news/turkey-syria-phone-leak-861/
I’ll make up a cause of war by ordering a missile attack on Turkey.” This leaked conversation is coming back to haunt the highest echelons of the Turkish government as it plans a provocation in Syria, while scrambling to contain social media internally.

The leaked audiotapes that reveal Turkey’s highest ministers staging an anti-Assad military intervention in Syria, have already caused YouTube to be shut down in the country, as well as leading to fevered accusations of treachery and betrayal of Turkey’s political interests – “a declaration of war,” as Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu put it.

This is of course after intelligence chief Hakan Fidan suggested seizing the opportunity to secure Turkish intervention in the Syrian conflict - a war that has already claimed 140,000 lives, and counting. In the conversation, Davutoğlu is heard saying that** Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan sees any attack as an “opportunity” to increase troop presence in Syria**, where it has staunchly supported the anti-Assad rebels.

Below is a transcript of that conversation in full. The video can be found below.


Actual transcript is quite long. You can read it on the website.

Turkey has started an investigation on how this conversation was leaked.

But it is obvious that current destruction of Syria is caused by interference from Syria’s neighbors.

After watching the destruction inflicted on Muslims by Muslims themselves, I find it ridiculous to blame Israel for its handling of Arabs. Arabs (and Turks) have killed more Muslims in the Middle East then Israel has.

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But it is obvious that current destruction of Syria is caused by interference from Syria's neighbors.
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After watching the destruction inflicted on Muslims by Muslims themselves, I find it ridiculous to blame Israel for its handling of Arabs. Arabs (and Turks) have killed more Muslims in the Middle East then Israel has.
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And the butcher of damascus has nothing to do with this. If he had heeded the call of his own people to start with than other countries would not have had a chance to do anything but this butcher wants to stay in power even if every Syrian is killed, supported by Iran and Russia who are egging him on to carry on the massacre. Iss hamam mein sub hee nangay hain but Assad has killed more Syrian than anyone else. Shameful animal.

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So the turks were speaking Syrian accented arbee ? (whatever that is....) and even provided a jet for the Turkish to play target practice? Hmmm looks more like the Iranian-us collusion than anything else.....

:D

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Well, Assad is not the only butcher there. Those who fomented the trouble in the first place are at least equally responsible for those massacres and should be called butchers themselves.
Assad is also not the only dictator there in the Middle East who wants to cling to power by hook or by crook. There are plenty of examples of that.

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:slight_smile:
What you are suggesting is the most ludicrous attempt to exonerate Turkish conspiracy against Syrian government. Not surprisingly, the post ended up with suggesting a collusion between Iran and the US!

Not even ERDOGAN called the recording fake. He only called it an ‘immoral’ espionage.

The first thing a Muslim, a human being, needs to do in his life is to pledge to support the truth. If one can not do it then he is not a Muslim. Rather he becomes worse than animals, as Quran puts it.

Here is the recording. See if it is Turkish or Arabic.


For those looking for understanding what is going on, here is a link where a guy is explaining the whole story.

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Read the comments on youtube page. I picked one I liked.


Cawkesq1 day ago

Turkey did nothing when Israel attacked and killed turkish soldiers, but they want to send a few people to syria in order to shoot rockets at abandoned areas of turkey, because they need a reason to attack Syria. Akp is a very dirty regime, it has always been deceitful, perfidious, cowardly, just like a snake in the grass; but it is the first time that all people can see it with their own eyes and hear with their own ears. For this reason they trie to ban twitter, youtube facebook. And if people vote for akp again, it means that they are real sheeps!

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Bashar Asad cannot be bailed out from the crimes he has committed against his own people. Its not the first time, his father did the same during his tenure. The vacuum created by his policies gave rise to militant groups and also provided an opportunity to the neighboring countries to interfere in the country.

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True that every dictator from the Middle East should be thrown out and democracy be established.

But as far as Turkish democracy is concerned, a lot of Turks are fed up with the semi-dictatorial rule of Tayyep Erdogan. By doing these outrageous acts, he is only trying to move people's focus from declining economy, tightening social rules, and several corruption allegations against his government.

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You have repeated the same thing in every thread about Syria. But have never replied about the current alternatives of Assad.
We know very well that Assad is a secular person who has never been involved in any religious persecution. But his alternatives are takfiris who have gathered from all around the world. Nobody in Syria wants to live under them. If Assad is 'animal' then they are 'Evil'.

Syria under current opposition groups would be an extremist khariji state where everyone including Shias, Sunnis, Alawites and Christians will be persecuted.
The Opposition groups are kharijis and not Muslims. Because they desecrated the graves of the Companions of Prophets. First they dug out grave of Hijr ibn Addi, and now they bombed the resting places of Owais Qarni and Ammar Yasir. If it was possible for them, they would have done the same to the shrine of the grand-daughter of the Prophet, Zainab.

I don't know how anyone claiming to be a Muslim could support those pigs.

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yes. bcoz they are remotely shia. All their sins get washed away.. right on the money khoji :rolleyes:

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No. :slight_smile:
Removal of all dictators is the right option for all the Middle East, including Syria, Saud, UAE, etc. But selective removal speaks of munafiqat and sectarian bigotry. And showing this hypocrisy is the responsibility of every person. It has nothing to do with sectarianism.

In Syria there are only two options available presently. Assad or al-Qaeda extremism. What is your choice?


This topic is about Turkey conducting a false flag operation, and start a war while falsely blaming Syria for starting it. Anyone without a sectarian bias would condemn such an act. But instead of doing this, some people continue to show off the sectarian bigotry. They won’t condemn anti-Assad lies even when they are exposed without any doubt.

Had this recording not come out and had Erdogan succeeded in his plans then everyone would have believed that Syria did attack Turkey and that Turkish response was justified. All Assad’s denials would have been wasted. Is it not true?
This deceitful plan by Turkey gives credence to earlier reports that Gulf Arabs used chemical weapons on their own people and blamed it on Assad in order to convince US to join the war.
Deliberate lies have been used by anti-Assad politicians and dictators to justify their actions of stoking civil war in Syria.

What I said above is the logical conclusion.

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woh kia kahtay hayn.... iss hammam mai sab hi nangay hayn :D

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Well, I know that a lot of people are going to support Turkey's invasion of Syria, whether it is justified or not.
But this example shows clearly that there many stories of brutalities of Assad's regime which may be based on similar lies.

In the end, Muslims are in no way better than the very people/countries we hate for starting wars unjustifiably or based on lies.

This at least must be acknowledged.

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We can repeat it as much as we want but I think the general consensus is Assad is a butcher so let's move on from that.
This post should be about the alleged attempt of the Turkish leader to attack his own country kill his own people and blame it on his neighbour. If true that is a massive betrayal of his own people and shows the extent of the hatred the Turkish leader has towards Syrias Alawite president. Im surprised though nobody else here has condemned such an action, instead they have carried on with the usual vitriolic comments of Assad.
The British media had reported that Erdogan had closed off twitter, they also mentioned that it was down to a recording of him and his alleged corruption. However they didn't mention what exactly the recording said, maybe because they didn't want to portray Assad as a victim of his Sunni neighbours. I find that extremely important in understanding this whole conflict.

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If we can say that Taliban and Bahrain are butchers, then a person whose AF drops barrel bombs on its population cant be a butcher for a FACT? I don't know what to make of Indians like you.

Anyway, if bahran should go to Shiites (the poster knows who he is in this thread) then syiia should be ruled by the Syrian majority. If the Syrian majority supposedly won't allow allawites free passage, then what about Iranian inspired Bahrainis would do to sunnis? Sunni AND SHIITE death squads both exist in Iraq.

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Doppelganger who said Assad is not a butcher? So what if I am an Indian at least im not hiding that using an alias.
If you want to discuss Bahrain then start another thread this thread is about the attempt of the Turkish leader trying to kill his own people and blame his Alawite neighbour.
Its so clear that many posters here only look at ethnicity, sectarianism, and religion rather than humanity.

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If you still havent understood the whole conflict doubt you ever will. It is simple a brutal butcher turned on his people when they asked him to go and created one of the worst genocide of modern times. This led to the civil war which now many factions are taking advantage. Lets also make one thing clear, once it became clear ot this animal that he was losing control of his country he released lots of criminals and Alqaeeda guys in his jails in order to create the situation that is today. So hope fully this will clear the situation for you

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So even if Qaeda is causing blood-shed, still it is Assad who is to blame here. Great.
I really can’t understand how anyone could say that this al Qaeda situation is the result of Assad letting them go out of jail.

**Fact. **There is an al Qaeda led offensive currently going on close to Turkish border, and it is happening with TURKISH support. Will Assad be blamed for this offensive too?!

Rebel assault on Kasab, Syria, revives dark memories for Armenians - latimes.com
BEIRUT — A rebel assault on the northern Syrian town of Kasab near the Turkish border has sparked a furor among Armenians worldwide and revived dark memories of the Ottoman-era genocide.

Thousands of Syrian rebels, many of them with Islamist radical groups, including some linked to Al Qaeda, surged across the Turkish-Syrian border March 21 and seized a swath of mountainous territory in northwestern Syria’s Latakia province, including Kasab.
Many residents of the town have since fled, like their ancestors who survived the genocide of the early 20th century, joining the legions of Syrians displaced by the war. The United Nations says about 1,550 displaced families from Kasab are receiving aid in the city of Latakia, which is under Syrian government control.


Fact. Syria is/was under a dictatorship which was better than dictatorship in other ME countries, because their dictatorship was totally secular where everyone had all freedom to practice any religion they wanted. But as soon as some peaceful protests started there, other dictators far worse than Assad, started supporting a group of these protestors with money and ammunition. With this support the protests turned into civil disobedience and movement to overthrow government by force. When government retaliated, it became a civil war. The civil war killed thousands of innocent people and turned millions others into refugees.
Even after destruction of the whole country, these countries are still conspiring against Syrian people in order to safeguard their own petty interests. Turkey is now taking a lead in this game of deception and lies inflicted upon Syria.


A Syrian mother sets herself on fire.

“I chose death, I chose death rather than seeing my children die a million times in front of me,” she says,

Eyewitnesses say she arrived outside the registration center, exchanged a few words with someone before dousing herself in gasoline. Within seconds she went up in flames.

“I am a mother, my children were getting dizzy from the lack of food, one said I can’t lift my head, the other said I can’t move my legs” Mariam recalls, regret for her actions compounding her already penetrating physical and emotional pain.
“My heart burns for my children. I hope that God forgives me, I want my voice to reach all the mothers, each person who has a conscience,” she pleads.
“I want my children to be independent, I worked very hard for their education, I worked a lot in this life for them to be able to reach university.”

Ahmad, her husband, wipes his eyes and turns away as she says she doesn’t want her children to see her like this. She wants them to remember her the way she was.

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Ehsan maybe you didn't understand the first paragraph of my post, I agree he is a butcher. Where have I claimed he isn't can you quote it? No you can't because I have made it clear that he is a butcher. Now how about addressing the other points made? Something you seem to shy from.

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so the fact that Syrian dictator threw army on civilian protests has nothing to do with the conflict getting weaponized?