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aur yeh bhi ghalib ke siwa aur kaun keh sakta hai…
Ishq mujhko nahin wehshat hi sahi
Meri wehshat teri shuhrat hi sahi
qat’a kejiye na ta’lluq hum se
Kuch nahin hai to adawat hi sahi
aur yeh bhi kitna mukhtalif khyal hai…
Qasid ke aate aate khat ek aur likh rakhooN
Main janta hooN jo woh likhein ge jawab maiN…
Indeed a very nice thread Code-red :k:
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^^ the second sheyr is one of my all time favourites.. thanks kashish :)
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Nikalna Khuld se Adam ka sunte ayein hai hum...
Magar bare be-Abro ho ke tere kooche se hum nikle...
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Nice 
I like the part * larkoon ka college jana* 
Ok this was not supposed to be poetry contest of Ghalib’s shairi. You can share your views about him.
Ghalib had a great sense of humour, which is evident in his letter and many humorous incident in his life, which was otherwise quite grim 
Ghalib liked Mangos very much, once he was eating mangos and someone came to meet him. Ghalib asked him to sit down and offered the fruit. The man did not like mangos, so he declined. Ghalib continued; he was eating the fruit and throwing the leftover towards a donkey. The donkey sniffed, but he somehow was not interested in eating. seeing this the man said to ghalib…
*** Arey mirza, Zara dekheye tu.. Aaam tu gadhey bhi nahi khatey ***
To which ghalib replied…
*** baja farmaya; Gadhey Aaam nahi khatey !***
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most of the deewan-e-ghalib books start with this ghazal:
naqsh faryaadi hai kis ki shokhi-e-tahreer ka
kaghazi hai peyrehan har paykar-e-tasweer ka
not to mention that it most ppl on readin such stuff, close the book....
i made my brother read it, explained to him all the ghazal, took me quite some time and he refused to read it further cuz he said it will take him hours to understand one single she'r....
ghalib is so unappreciated by many urdu speaking folks....
sad.... really....
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Nice thread indeed. I haven't read Ghalib's poetry that much but he is indeed a class a part. This ghazal is specifically for this thread. bari khubsorat hai...
Nuktacheen hai gham e dil Us ko sunai na banay
Kia banay baat jahan baat bana ay na banay
Main bulata tow hoon usko magar ay jazbai dil
Us par ban ay kuch eisee kay ay na banay
Khail samjha hai kahen chor na day, bhool na jai
Kaash youn bhi how kay bin meray satai na banay
Ghair phirta hai liyay youn teray khat ko kay agar
Koi poochay kay yeh kia hai tow chupai na banay
Is nazakat ka bura how, woh bhalay hain tow kia
Hath aayin tow unhain hath lagay na banay
Maout ki rah na daikhoon kay bin aay na banay
Tum ko chaho kay na aao tow bin ay na banay
Bojh woh sar say gira hai ka uthay na uthay
Kaam woh aan para hai kay banay na banay
Ishq par zoor naheen hai yeh woh Aatish Ghalib
Kay laga ay na lagay or bhugay na bhujay
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Minerva ji the last shayr was part of that song “Dil Se” in that movie :o Waise nice shair but my opinion is “nikammi baatein” 
I can’t believe no one has yet contributed my favorite Ghalib shair to this thread, jis pe aa ke Ghalib kee tamaam shairi khatam ho jaati hae :k:
mein ne usay dekha ANGLE badal badal ke
us ne mujhay maara SANDLE badal badal ke
wah wah :k:
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Amongst urdu poets I have never enjoyed anyone more than Ghalib. His poetry is about as good as you can get. Not a single word in the wrong place. Absolutely astounding. Dewan-e-Ghaalib is a must read for all those who can read urdu.
The only other poet I like is Faiz and I have read Nuskha-hai-Faiz several times (but that for another time)
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Faisal bhai peHle hi Pakistani Qom NEEM PAAGAL hae, aur aap ne jo shaandaar nuSkha bataya hae na, us se mukammal tor pe paagal ho jaye gi
and now folks plz dont get jazbati n start throwing anday tamatar at me… :o mein beaabroo ho k is koochay se naheen nikalna chahti 
so i will take my leave… 
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Irem: Ghalib’s poetry is not about Ishq-e-Majaazi alone or the nikammi baataiN as per you. The angle you may be looking at is very surficial. This is all about Literature. There is a reason Ghalib is considered an authority in the langauge of urdu. If you love the literature and you want to learn Urdu, Ghalib is a must to read. Poetry is not “nikammi baataiN.” It is the expression of your innerself and your inner emotions. There is a reason why the curriculum of Urdu in the schools of pakistan must have Ghalib be included. There is a reason that MA’s of urdu need to know everything about Ghalib. There is no poet of urdu, who does not recognize the greatness of Ghalib yet he/she is considered a poet in the circle of Fine Arts. When it comes to Ghalib, he is the only one who introduced the urdu poetry of type for which it was said:
Gar apnaa kahaa khud aap samjhay tau kiyaa samjhay?
Maza kehnay kaa tub hai, jub ik kahay aur doosra samjhay
he is the kind of poet who recognizes the greatness of others as well:
Tarz-e-Bey Dil maiN Reekhtaa kehnaa
Asadullah Khan Qiyamat hai
Reekhtaa kay tum hi ustaad naheeN ho Ghalib
Suntay haiN kay aglay zamaanay maiN koi Meer bhee thaa
When it comes to urdu philosophy in the poetry, he is at the climax of it:
NaheeN thaa kuch tau Khudaa thaa, kuch naa hotaa tau khudaa hotaa
Diboyaa mujh ko honay nay, naa hotaa maiN tau kiyaa hotaa
Hakeem-ul-Ummat, Muffakir-e-Pakistan Dr. Allama Sir Muhammad Iqbal :rehm: has said for Ghalib:
Fik’r-e-InsaaN par teri hasti say yeh Roshan huvaa
Hai par-e-murgh-e-takhaiiyul ki rasaai taa kujaa
Thaa saraapaa Rooh tu, bazm-e-Sukhan pekar tera
Zeb-e-Mehfil bhee rahaa, Mehfil say pinhaaN bhee rahaa
Deed teri Aankh ko uss Hus’n ki manzoor hai
Bun kay Soz-e-Zindagi har shay maiN jo mastoor hai
Mehfil-e-hasti teri barbat say hai sarmaayaa daar
Jiss tarah naddi kay naghmoN say sukoot-e-kohisaar
Teray Firdos-e-Takhiiyul say hai Qudrat ki bahaar
Teri kasht-e-Fik’r say ugtay haiN Aalam-e-sabzah zaar
Zindagi muzmir hai teri shokhi-e-Tehreer maiN
Taab-e-goyaai say Junbish hai lub-e-tasveer maiN
Nutq ko sau naaz haiN teray lub-e-Aijaaz par
Mehv-e-hairat hai Suraiya Rifa’t-e-pervaaz par
Shaahid-e-MazmooN tassadduq hai teray andaaz par
khanda zun hai ghuncha-e-Dilli Gul-e-Sheeraaz par
Aah! tu ujRi huvee Dilli maiN Aaraameedah hai
Gulshan-e-Veemar**(*)** maiN teraa hum navaa Khuaabeedah hai
Lutf-e-Goyaai maiN teri Hum sari Mumkin naheeN
Ho takhiiyul kaa na jub tuk Fik’r-e-Kaamil Hum NasheeN
Haaye! ab kiyaa ho gayee HindustaaN ki sar zameeN
Aah! Aye Nazzarah-e-Aamooz-e-Nigaah-e-Nuktaa beeN
Gaysoo-e-Urdu abhi mannat pazeer-e-shaana hai
Shama’ yeh sodaai Dil sozi-e-Parvaana hai
Aye Jahaan-e-Aabaad! Aye Gehvaarah-e-Ilm-O-hunar
HaiN saraapaa Naala-e-Khaamosh teray baam-o-dar
Zarray Zarray maiN teray Khuaabeedah haiN Shams-O-Qamar
YouN tau posheedah haiN teri khaak maiN laakhoN Gohar
Dafan tujh maiN koi Fakh’r-e-Rozgaar aisaa bhee hai?
Tujh maiN pinhaaN koi Moti-e-Aabdaar aisaa bhee hai?
**(*)Veemar: **This is the place where the Great Poet of Germany, Goetay is burried.
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ta'at mein ta rahey na mai-o-angabeen ki laag
dozakh mein daal do koi le ker bahisht ko
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He was born on 14 Feb, according to some source
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what a great sher,simply superb
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ye aik serial banaya thaa Gulzaar SB NE, jisme naseeruddin shah ne ghalib ka kirdaar nibhaya thaa,ye uss serial ka link hai,is main ghalib ki hazir-jawabi,andaaz wagheira bakhuubi dikhaayegaye hain
**i dont know how to upload videa thats why posting URL mods pls help.:teary1: **
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrI-EnkNYuw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNerx96Qft4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9icZxyRtAo
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Apparently, no matter how much i like Ghalib’s poetry but It never sounds in sync with vocals. I mean Ghalib’s ghazals are classics, out of this world, very romantic and poetic but i have never heard any singer who sings them and it has jelled with the melody. It always sound out of sync. 
In contrast, Whenever someone sings Faiz, be it Noor Jahan, Iqbal bano, Nayara noor or Tina Saani… It sounds so melodiously beautiful. It sounds like if that poem was penned down for this purpose that some one would make an extraordinary melody
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I remember One ghazal which i heard is a punjabi translation of Ghalib sound good ... it is sung by Ghulam Ali... Although I dont know which Ghazal originally it is
goes like somethign
Merey shouq da nayee aitbaar teno *
*Aa wekh mera intezaar aja ...
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^ that sounds much like Iqbal....
maana keh teri deed ke qabil nahin hoon main
tu mera shoq dekh, mera intezaar dekh
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^ Maybe But i am positive its ghalib’s thats what i heard
heres more
pawain hijr te pawain wisaal howay
wakho wakh dowaan di laztaan ne
merey sonia ja hazaar waari
aja payaraia way lakhwaar aja
ay riwaaj ay masjadan mandiraan da
outhey hasityaan te khud parastiyaan ne
mainkhaney de wich mastiyaan hi mastiyaan ne
hosh kar ban ke hoshiyaaar aja
toon saada te tera dil sada
teno awain raqeeb bura paya
jey toun merey janazey te nayee ayaa
Rah tak le merey mazaar aja
Sukhi wasnaa je tu chahna aain merey ghaliba ais jahan andar
aja rhenda di basti wich aa be ja jithey baindey ne khaksaar aja
You must have guessed it by now :fifa:
hear sung beautifully by Ghulam ali
http://www.apnaorg.com/music/GhulamAli/index-1.php3
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^ sounds so unlike ghalib....
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Chacha was a philosopher the idea behind this shear is amazing;
Wafa kaisi kahan ka ishq jab sur phoRna Thehra
to phir aey sungdil tera hi sung e aastaN kyon ho
Nice thread Codey. Also thanx reminding me Ghulam ali's ghazal. beautiful.