TTP wants clerics to issue fatwa against democracy

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So, now democracy is unslamic, too?

TTP wants clerics to issue fatwa against democracy

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

PESHAWAR: The banned Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) has purportedly written a letter to senior clerics of the country seeking an edict against democratic system and security forces, and explaining why the TTP had rebelled against the state.

A copy of the letter was obtained by the Daily Times on Thursday. “Please go through this letter and help the Muslims know the Taliban stance,” read the six-page letter in Urdu, sent by TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan.

Senior security officials described the letter as part of “the propaganda tools” of the TTP, saying the group would not gain much from it.

The letter asked how the members of parliament of the country could be called Muslims if they had failed to legislate for enforcement of Shariah.

The letter appealed to the sentiments of clerics by mentioning how the army was killing the “mujahideen” who, it said, were fighting for enforcement of God’s law in Pakistan.

However, it did not explain what steps the TTP had taken to enforce Shariah in the Tribal Areas where it held the ground.

The letter did not mention when it was written and delivered to the clerics. It was also not clear if it was sent to clerics from all sects.

“Do you know how many mujahideen were killed or arrested?” the letter asked the clerics. It informed them that thousands of “mujahideen” had been killed in army-led operations. The TTP letter also complained about the clerics who were “silent” when the government was publicly acknowledging being a “front-line ally of America and NATO”. It, however, admitted that the TTP had “provided shelter” to Uzbek, Arab, Chechen and other militants after the US-led bombings ousted the government of Mullah Muhammad Omar in late 2001 in Afghanistan. staff report

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With fatwa business, clerics like to play god all the time.
God did not say anything about democracy. But these god-wannabe will interpret seething in a way so as to issue this fatwa.

Funny that these god-wannabe people would not even accept something as proven as evolution.

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unislamic? look whos saying that. these savages who shouldnt be even called humans are going to tell us what is Islamic and unIslamic.

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Atleast read what are their stance is and then comment rather then starting your hate speech out of nothing. And believe me media will only tell you distorted truth :slight_smile:

mak_04_demo_deen.pdf - 4shared.com - document sharing - download - Ahmet Ocalan

i may not agree with them completely, rather they are even against the scholar (mujhay_hai_hukme_azan_lilahaillallah_muhammad_rasool_allah.pdf - 4shared.com - document sharing - download) whom i mostly follow in such issues but still what they say has some solid basis.

My request is that if one do not agree with their stance then they should provide concrete evidences from islamic texts, or if you can not do this stay quite on such issues.

Believe me it is fruitless to please kuffar at the cost of your deen.

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^ the way these guys want to impose religion is not according to Islam either. No one will taken them seriously unless they learn to live like humans.

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Look who's lecturing on democracy now. The savages who know nothing other then killing innocent women and children. The letter is admitting they provide refuge to terrorists and we are to believe them on democracy being unislamic. Not only are they savage but think that we are stupid as well. The only good place for a taliban is six feet under. Best thing that can happen for Pakistan.

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Yes i agree ali(as per media reports they are savages :) ). but this is another issue, why not academically counter thier claim that democracy is against islam.

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^ so as per media reports they are savages, but in real they are 'role models/angels'?

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Try some thing else brother. This makes us worse then them. sachi ( drones, bombings on northern pakistan, helping killing innocent afghans waghiara waghiara.)

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No, there are not always either angel or satan in the world. What i meant was that you dont know the truth, i regulaly see on bbc taliban accepting some thing and at the same time thier websites claiming that this is not our operation. it is very sensitive topic, no one wants to move away from his/her comfort zone.

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Talk about mind control of muslims

Imam Anwer awlakis view point on democracy.

Link of Rands Report mentioned in the bayan

About mind controls and other related, visit these

http://secretarcana.com/hiddenknowledge/monarch-programming-mind-control/

Inshallah a detailed thread will follow on this issue after ramadan.

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If you see no difference between Taliban and Pakistan Military operations against them then there is no reasoning with you. There would be no military operations, drones, etc. if the taliban became human beings and learned to live under the laws of Pakistan. If the taliban want their brand of Islam in Pakistan they should participate in elections and try to bring change that way. The taliban kill innocent women and children and they are also responsible for the innocents who die as a result of military operations against them.

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So who are these unnamed clerics in the report that Taliban look up to and seek guidance from? The media is afraid of publishing their names and expose them?

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And geniuses in the other tread think that secularism would be problematic. :halo:

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geniuses think all religious people are Taliban :halo:

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...because that *is *the Genius Society motto.

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Pakistani military first started the offence against them, we are just sowing what with did in lal masjid.I am not trying to advocate TTP (i have serious reservations about them) but labeling them as savages and labeling Pakistani forces as angels is not correct.to me pakistani forces are doing much worst and open crimes against humanity then the collective crimes of all talibans. Starting with betray of chechans in jerma bridge kohat in early 2000 these forces are not serving pakistan rather only serving their colonial masters.Latest being killing of innocent chechan civilians and later on killing of doctor at kharotabad

اللهُمَّ أَرِنَا الحَقَّ حَقّاً وَارْزُقْنَا التِبَاعَةَ وَأَرِنَا البَاطِلَ بَاطِلاً وَارْزُقْنَا

اجْتِنَابَهُ، بِرَحْمَتِكَ يَا أَرْحَمَ الرَّاحِمِينَ

Allahumma arinal-haqqa haqqan warzuqnat-tiba'ah, wa arinal-batila batilan warzuqnaj-tinabah, bi rahmatika ya arhamar-rahimeen.

O Allah! Let us see the good as good, and bless us with following it. And show us the falsehood as falsehood, and bless us with staying away from it, with Your mercy, O Most Merciful!

i will not be continuing this offtopic discussion, let us pray that we see haq and do not end of following dajjal.

Any answers on democracy part?

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The operation against these neanderthals was totally justified because they were challenging the writ of the government and threatening anyone who disagreed with their kharijism.
Lal masjid was a bold step that the government had taken and it hurt them right in the middle. Now the need was to continue this action against similar fasaadi places throughout the country. But unfortunately it didn't happen.

You are right that we are reaping what we sowed. Pakistan supported these Neanderthals in their fasad and eventually it came 360 degree to come and haunt us in the form of Lal Masjid.

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As long as Pakistanis continue to listen to these losers, we will continue to be economically bankrupt.

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Thumbs up. These intolerant neanderthals understand no language except force. Negotiations are not possible with them.
it is unfortunate to see many Pakistanis still think that they could be helpful to Pakistan against India. Actually, they are our own worst enem, bigger than India.