TTP set conditions for talks

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Thanks Amal. But we know that this is an impossible thing.

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TTP has refused to law down their arms, on the other hand they want Pakistan’s constitution to be rewritten to implement shariah (their version), change in foreign policy, and Pakistan should play their part in bringing Taleban back in Afghanistan. In short Pakistan should negotiate on their terms.

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Is it negotiation or surrender?

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Negotiations as per TTP, and surrender on the part of Pakistan. As even democracy is kufr, so the government would have to install some government as per their understanding.

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Install Hakimullah as Amir-ul-Momineen, Waliur Rahman COAS and Ehsan ullah Ahsan as information minister. And everyone will live happily ever after.

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^ they have become so confident now, that they are demanding ANP to seek forgiveness from TTP and they might give that a thought. So much for the victory against them on the doestic front. And then interestingly on the one side they are refuting the attacks on JUI and JI, and at the same reminding them to see their conduct and statements too. They are not happy with the nick name of animals they get, and then try to justify that nick with their actions. :D

At the end Safi proved his taleban apologist credentials, he keeps changing his views throughout the week.

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This is a recipe for total disaster of Al-Qaeda and loosely connected groups like TTP. The schools, employment opportunities are anesthesia for them, they will never accept it.
I don't know how much longer the establishment of Pakistan will play games and doesn't speak the truth and same is true for self-called leaders like IK & Fazlu.

Maintain stance as it was before, we don't talk with terrorists and mass murderers period. If PTI simpletons are such fond of talking with gay-monkeys then i think if they were even 1% serious they can show us something from last couple of years. Well nothing, apart from peace marches and crying out loud on drone attacks.

This year the drone attacks are already the lowest and next year they will probably go down in single digits then what will be the point of view of simpletons i can predict right now it is: general amnesty for all the butchers.

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Pakistani Taliban kia sochtay hain ?

Saleen Saafi should ask from them Okay if we agree on your one point that Army and Politicians are against so you are killing them, then Why you are taking lives of innocent kids and ordinary people of Pakistan ? Where it has written in Islam then you can take lives of kids, women ?

IMO, If Govt and Army think that they can kill then Then CRUSH them else think about give and take policy as we can't afford so much lives in this war.

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Isolating :hehe:

are you high or something, they are already enough isolated in a remote area called FATA, the problem is we have plenty of two face leaders like IK which never let this nation come on the same page. Ironically it was Imran Khan who was fierce opponent of Swat Operation if history is any guide this guy if God-forbid become PM or something will take us back to stone age in reality.

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Agreed include the Sharifs into the list too.

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Shahbaz Shareef first tenure was proof enough he will take care of such elements even if he have to resort to "police muqabalas". Now i was never fond of NS but given the political acumen of IK we see everyday, he looks better choice. Like it or not.

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Thats your thoughts! NS is unstable (he changes his mind too often and usually after passing the orders) and SS is so full of himself. The guy who holds close to 18 ministries, I tremble at the thoughts of him being the PM. A good manager/administrator doesn’t do the work himself but has it done through others. The current tenure has proved him to be a bad administrator.

Opening up a few danish schools, doling out laptops, sasti roti, Ashiana Housing haven’t solved any of the issues with regards to health, education and housing. Around 50 people have died in a month due to toxic cough syrup. Is there a Quality Assurance department in Punjab to test the medicines before they are distributed in the market? There are fake medicines spread throughout the province, and sadly that includes life saving drugs. Crime statistics are painting a grim picture too. As far as infrastructure projects are concerned, constructing a few bridges and roads are nothing when the roads in the communities are in a bad shape (as khadim e aala doesnt believe in local government system).

Anyways, here’s the crystal clear stance of PMLN on NWA operation:

Operation in N. Waziristan will make country more insecure: Nisar | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

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^ Nisar = Mr. Bean - never take him serious.

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^ please refer me to the policy statement of the sharifs regarding war on terror, as the only one I remember is in which shahbaz sharif was begging the TTP to spare Punjab as the thinking of pmln and TTP was the same.

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^ he does said it. i remember.

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Shahbaz sharifs administration style is flawed and outdated, he believes in centralisation of powers instead of devolution. If he becomes the prime minister I am certain he would prove to be a big failure.

Systems need to be strong enough to deliver on their own and not depend upon a certain premier or CM. Nothing has been done to overhaul the departments of the government.

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Thats your thought process. They are NOT isolated. They are living peaceful lives there and destroying peace of rest of the country :slight_smile:

IK was against swat operation and it proved right. This menace is still there. Taking its ugly head again DESPITE full time military deployment there. Now is this how we intend to live rest of our lives and is this how we plan to tackle this? Most definitely now.

We need military operation but not a gung ho full fledged operations because It will never succeed in the long run. We may win the battle but war will go on and on.

I suggest you read both of them. One is the unbelievably long Tamil insurgency in Sri Lanka and one is IRA insurgency in Northern Ireland. And both involved some political means aided by Military. Were civilians not killed in both insurgencies? Yes they were. But in the end long lasting peace came after a political solution complimented by military action. Now I am not saying our enemy is exactly similar but we need to take lessons from these. Our enemy is different but one thing is common. Its not afraid to die and willing to do anything to capture what they need.

Botton line is: When your enemy is not afraid to die and has a mindset creeping in the whole region (FATA etc), its time to improvise which we are failing to do :slight_smile:

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you remember, that is all we need to prove that Shahbaz Sharif has a policy on war against terror, terrorism by TTP :k:

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it seems Jang has taken the article off?