TTP getting active support from seminaries in twin cities: report

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This is not really surprising. They should shut down the madrassas that are incubators of terrorists across the country and the world.

TTP getting active support from seminaries in twin cities: report - DAWN.COM

A report jointly prepared by the Rawalpindi and Islamabad police has claimed that the outlawed Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) was getting active support from hardliner religious seminaries to carry out terrorism in the twin cities.

Fearing a strong backlash from the TTP in case of the failure of the ongoing peace talks, the federal government had directed the police to collect information about the sympathisers and supporters of the Taliban. The police prepared the report with the help of intelligence agencies.

The report, a copy of which is available with Dawn, stated that the TTP was not alone whenever it carried out terrorism activities in the twin cities. “It (TTP) gets full support from the religious seminaries and worship places of the Deobandi school of thought.”

The seminaries and worship places are used by the TTP terrorists for lodging and sheltering.

The main seminaries that provided support to the TTP are: Jamia Darul Uloom Zakrya Basti Anwarul Madina, Sara-i-Kharbooza, Tarnol, led by its administrator Pir Azizur Rehman Hazarvi, and Jamia Khalid Bin Walid located at Shams Colony in Golra which is administered by Maulana Fazlur Rehman Khalil. It said Khalil was also the chief of Ansarul Ummah and a Jihadi commander.

These two seminaries, according to the report, were used by the TTP as the central points of activities to carry out terror attacks in Islamabad and Rawalpindi.

Then there are scores of other seminaries and Jamia (central) mosques whose like-minded administrators are working in tandem with these two madressahs.Whenever the TTP planned to carry out a suicide attack in the twin cities, the last-moment support was provided to the attackers by the like-minded administrations of the seminaries and mosques located in the targeted areas.

These seminaries in different parts of the cities have students from KP, Fata, South and North Waziristan, Bajaur, Khyber and Mohmand agencies, the report stated. The students were also being imparted Jihadi training in the main seminaries - Darul Uloom Zakrya and Jamia Khalid Bin Walid.

Besides, religious seminaries and worship places managed by the Deobandis were also supporting the TTP through the administrators of the two main madressahs.

“In case of an army operation against the TTP, like-minded seminaries will be given the task to help TTP in carrying out attacks in the twin cities,” the report said. Besides, seminaries in the far-flung areas would be used by the terrorists as their sanctuaries.

The report identified 20 such seminaries in Rawalpindi which would be used by the TTP attackers.

These madressahs are located in the Cantonment, Tench Bhatta, Girja Road, Westridge, Dhamyal Camp, Saddar, Ittehad Colony, Khayaban-i-Sir Syed, Kashmiri Bazaar, Pindora, Sadiqabad, Pirwadhai, Chaklala and Dhoke Hasu. The report added that scores of students from Ummat-i-Islamia Public High School in the Jhand tehsil of Attock district had gone for Jihad with the TTP, adding nine of the students were currently stationed in Waziristan.

The school principal Manzoor Hussain’s two sons - Mujahid Manzoor and Shahid Manzoor - used to preach Jihad to other students of the school.

“Now the two are in Waziristan and engaged in Jihad along with the TTP.” The principal is a grade 18 officer of the agriculture department and was previously affiliated with the Jamaat-i-Islami (JI). Later, the JI cancelled his membership after he entered into a second marriage with a female teacher.

“Two students of the school, Mohammad Usman and Abdul Mateen, were killed in Afghanistan,” the report stated, adding they had gone to Afghanistan after completing their matriculation.

Two other students of the school, Imran Sattar and Hafiz Mudassir, carried out terrorist attacks in Jhand on January 28, 2010, and Korangi Ada on February 8, 2013.

The report said the school was training the students of 9th and 10 classes for Jihad. A large number of people from North and South Waziristan have been migrating to other parts of the country after the army conducted air strikes on militant hideouts there.

“Well-trained terrorists and their leaders and commanders can also slip out of the their hideouts in Fata and take shelter in the hilly areas such as Abbottabad, Kakul, Nathia Gali, Murree, Jat Alyot and Phagwari,” the report stated.

They can later move to the twin cities and take shelter in the seminaries and then carry out terrorism activities.

“In reaction to the possible army operation, Taliban can also use Pashto speaking scavengers and women to attack their targets.” The report said the TTP activists can also find supporters and sympathisers in the rural areas of Islamabad and Rawalpindi such as Bhara Kahu and Adiala Road.

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There would be more similar seminaries, the intelligence agencies should keep an eye on all those who could create trouble in the country.

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What these mummy daddys dont know is Pir aziz ur rehman was the one who pushed people not to participate in TTP non sharia compliant activities. being a spiritual shaikh (having ijaza form Moulana zakriyya) and as spiritual shaikh of big taliban leaders (both TTp and Afghan taliban-inlcuding some deputies of mulla umer) and some pakistan generals ,he is one who have tried his best to bridge the gap between the two.

Infact he was once regarded as fitna by some deobandis scholars for trying to bridge gap between barelvi and Deobandis ( see last volume of Aap kay masail or un ka hal by Shaheed Moulana Yousaf Ludhyanivee rehamtullah alaih).

One more reason no to believe in these english newspapers.

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^ the report has been prepared by the JIT of the police of the twin cities.

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i know but you should keep in mind different factors like who prepared the report/how it is being quoted here etc(we do not accept every thing these JIT prepares or do we?). i just shared what i know.

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TTP has sharia compliant activities too? As in, Halal Suicide bombing?

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Many consider their activites in afghanistan as sharia compliant, certified and vetted. :)

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Yes, nothing can be more Sharia compliant, certified and vetted than shooting school girls and blowing up schools.

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Since when is suicide sharia compliant? How can something that the Quran deems wrong be compliant with sharia?

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^ whatever can pave their path to power is sharia compliant.

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Pakistan’s Deal With the Devil And The Taliban Shadow Surge

On March 1, the Islamabad government cut a deal with the Taliban. And since then, all hell has been breaking loose in neighboring Afghanistan.
In the last month, the Taliban has killed dozens of people in a string of attacks timed to destabilize Afghanistan ahead of the presidential elections on Saturday.

Most recently, a suicide bomber breached the heavy security at the Interior Ministry building and blew himself up, killing six police officers. And that may be just a preview, if local Taliban commanders are to be believed.

“We told Afghans not to vote,” said Haji Shakor, a Taliban commander in central Afghanistan. “If we found out you voted, you won’t take your five fingers home.”

But the real accelerators of this violence aren’t Shakor and his fellow Afghanistan-based militants, local intelligence and security officials tell The Daily Beast. Instead, it’s Taliban insurgents streaming over the border from Pakistan that have enabled the group’s recent killing spree in Kabul. And they say the Pakistani government is to blame for the incursion.

On March 1, the government in Islamabad agreed to a month-long ceasefire with Pakistan’s Taliban, known as Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). The truce was supposed to be a chance to revive stalled peace talks but its timing, just ahead of Afghanistan’s elections, suggests that it may also have been a way to reposition forces before the vote.

By increasing violence ahead of the election, the Taliban is trying to discourage voting and convince Afghans that the government is incapable of providing security. It’s a tactic the Taliban has used in the past before big political events, but this time to pull off its plan the group used some shrewd foreign diplomacy.

There are, broadly speaking, two Talibans, one in Afghanistan and one in Pakistan. The two groups operate semi-autonomously but both fall under the leadership of the Quetta Shura leadership council. And major moves, like this ceasefire, would undoubtedly be blessed by the Quetta Shura.

In a recent interview Srtaj Aziz, Pakistan’s advisor on foreign policy and national security, responded to allegations that Pakistan was responsible for Taliban attacks in Afghanistan.

“We told Afghans not to vote. If we found out you voted, you won’t take your five fingers home.”
“It is rather unfortunate because there is no justification for it. What do we get out of disrupting the elections?” Aziz asked. “For us, a smooth transition in Afghanistan is absolutely critical because without peace and stability in Afghanistan Pakistan cannot be stable,” Aziz said.

But when The Daily Beast asked him about it last week, Aziz did not deny that Pakistan’s truce with the TTP would lead the group’s fighters into Afghanistan. “It is our Pakistan internal issues,” he said.

The recent attacks in Kabul have been devastating but they came as no surprise to Afghan security officials, who have blamed Pakistan for years for the violence in their country. Lutfullah Mahsal, a senior intelligence officer at Afghanistan’s National Directorate of Security, had been predicting the consequences of a Taliban truce with Pakistan since before the deal was reached.

“If the ongoing negotiations succeed and the TTP announces a truce with Pakistan’s government it will definitely increase and accelerate Taliban related terrorist activities in Afghanistan,” Mashal said last month, before the deal was signed.

Last week, Afghanistan’s intelligence chief, Rahmatullah Nable, told parliament that he had confirmed reports that the Taliban arranged for madrassas (religious schools) in Pakistan to close down months earlier than the usual summer holiday so students could go fight in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan’s interior minister Umar Daudzai echoed this in a media conference, saying, “some of the Madrasas in Pakistan have been shut down so students can go and fight in Afghanistan.”

An Afghan intelligence officer assigned to follow the Taliban in Pakistan said that “there is no doubt if the TTP and Pakistan government truce continues, lots of Pakistan militants will be going to Afghanistan for the fighting season.” The fighting season comes in the summer months after the election.

In other words, the TTP’s surge into Afghanistan could do more than just spoil Saturday’s vote. It could cause pain for months to come—and right when U.S. and NATO forces are preparing their withdrawal from the country.

This is a critical moment for Afghanistan. The country will elect a new leader for the first time since Hamid Karzai became president in 2001. The vast majority, if not all, American and NATO forces, will leave the country by years end. The Taliban are mustering everything they can to prove that after 13 years of war they’re still a powerful force in Afghanistan, and that the elected government is incapable of securing the country.

For years, Western militaries have tried to train and equip a series of local paramilitary forces to keep Afghanistan from cracking once NATO leaves. Shakor, the Taliban commander, admitted those paramilitaries would be tough to dislodge. But he insisted that they are next on the militants’ target list, nevertheless.

“U.S. and NATO might be leaving Afghanistan but they gave birth to local infidels and it is difficult to handle them because they are local and knew everything about the Taliban,” he told The Daily Beast.

“The reality is the Taliban have new local enemies and challengers. The tribal militias generate a lot of trouble for Taliban in the country side,” he added.

And now, in his fight against the paramilitaries Shakor has new help coming from across the border.

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i think their "shariat" is world's only religion where something as basic as 'lying' is also sharia-compliant.

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Unregulated seminaries will continue to provide raw material to the Jihadists and the country and the society will continue to suffer the consequences. There was a concentrated efforts during the time of Musharraf to regulate the seminaries, but just like a plethora of other things that we start but never end, including suo moto notices, the madrasa reforms were neither fully implemented nor followed up.

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sara-i-kharbooza? yahan kharboozay aa ker thehrtay hayn? :smiley:

Tarnol… Burnol ka bhai hay?

We all know TTP is not one “group”, don’t we? Isn’t Jamat-udDawa or likes of these considered to be “umbrella” orgs of TTP?

oh yaar parh to liya karo :smack:

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How do people buy into their agenda in the first place? If someone were to tell your kids, hey gear up, so you can blow yourself up across the border in a FELLOW MUSLIM COUNTRY AND KILL OTHER MUSLIMS...I mean what type of intelligence do you really need to know that this is probably a bad idea?

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The report identifies some madrassahs which actively support Taliban fasadi activities in Rawalpindi/ Islamabad. That is a good sign.
We know that there must be a lot madrassahs in the biggest metropolis of Pakistan involved in the same nefarious activities. I wish similar reports are published for such places in Karachi as well.

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Its not as straight as you are making it look like, you have to lecture about jannah, sacrifices, couple of ahadit/verses and twist the meanings around, give examples of few jihad moments of Prophet PBUH and twist the story and you will have some people raise their hands.

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BTW what kind of "intelligence" is to leak the report to media about exacts of few madrassahs if they are indulging in such heinous activities? Why is that our intelligence agencies could not control/stop terrorism acts?

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The "fellow Muslims" would be deemed as kaafirs and some other catchy titles attributed to them so that people could be motivated to kill them and then expect reward from Allah.

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Exactly, and the logic should work for both sides.

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