Assalam O Alaikum
This is a great site. Do visit please.
http://www.irshad.org/idara/
The truth about the cult calling itself Ahmed (mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani).
Assalam O Alaikum
A very bad site indeed because most of the articles in this site is about the character of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and about his writings and against the ahmadia mission.
They should talk about the issues not about the ahmadia mission. for e.g they should tell about the jesus death, finality of prophethood etc. Instead the site is full of lies and wrong claims of the irshad sahib. The fair thing is to say that we have a claim about the death of jesus now analyze it under the light of quran and hadith. What they have done there is that they said we have a claim about the death of jesus and the they attacked on the personality of that person instead of analyzing that. They have talked a very little about the issues and all the stuff in there is the same which we are discussing here for e.g jesus death. Same verses, same hadith etc.
If they are so curious about the person who claims this then they should find other persons for e.g Mulana Nanotwi head of the dewbandi people (most of the ulima in pakistan belong to this class). He said that a prophet can come after Hazoor (SAW).
Secondly, the extract from the writings of Mirza sahib are either wrong ( they dont exist) or they are Misinterpreted. I read an extract form mirza sahibs writing on that site and I asked the webmaster of that site to provide me the reference of that extract so that I can check that. But they never gave a satisfactory reply (proving that they are just lied)
The best people to ask about the ahmadiat are ahmadis themselves. If my name is MIRZA YASIR, then why should you go to abdulla to ask my name. You should come to me to ask my name. Similarly, we are the only representative of our believes and we have the rights to tell you about that. Others don't have the right because they Misinterpret those believes.
KHUDA HAFIZ
MIRZA YASIR
[This message has been edited by mirzayasir (edited January 30, 1999).]
Excellent site,infact we find the real face of Jhoota Nabi.
JazzakALLAH Abdullah
agreed mazloom
Incorrect Mirzayasir,
It unviels the truth.
Part of text from Maulana Abu-Maududi's writing posted on this site.
"Anyone who reads the above traditions will come to the conclusion that they do not mention the advent of a promised Masih or a like
Masih or projection of Masih. The texts referred to above leave no scope for any man who is born of human sperm from the womb of a
woman to declare "I am that Masih whose advent was foretold by the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)." All the above traditions clearly and definitively proclaim the descent of that Holy Christ who was born to Mary without the instrumentality of father two thousand years
ago. It is certainly of no avail at this juncture to open the debate as to whether the Holy Christ is dead or exists alive somewhere in the world. Supposing he is dead, God has the power to raise him alive[see footnote 11], otherwise also it is not beyond the Divine power of God to keep a man alive somewhere in the cosmos for as long as thousands of years; and to bring the man back to the world at His Will. At any rate, a believer in the veracity and sanctity of the traditions will have no doubt that the traditions foretell the advent of 'Christ son of Mary' and no one else. On the contrary, if a person has no faith in the traditions, he would not be a believer in the descent of anyone, for traditions are the only bases of the doctrine of Descent. In view of all this, it is a strange kind of funny logic to take the doctrine of Descent derived from the traditions and having torn out the clear reference to Christ son of Mary, establish a modern day 'Christ incarnate' in place
of Mary's son. "
Dear Champ,
I think that I wrote a long explanation of why the new Masih has to be a different person, in one of my previous posts. (I think in the thread, “ahmedis” by soha) Read that for the explanations of all what Mulana sahib
has said.
Secondly, there are two things God is Qadir on every thing but the question is that does he really do everything in his power. In Quran Allah has said that He will never break his Sunnat and He also said that once a man dies he can’t come back in this world and also He said that He has not given Khalood to any person before prophet Muhammad (SAW). So the Supposition of Mulana sahib that Jesus died and God will make him alive again is wrong. Also the second claim about thousands of years in cosmos is wrong because the khalood is impossible.
I couldn’t understand what “traditions” mean here. Can you explain that for me.
KHUDA HAFIZ
MIRZA YASIR