Well ZZ, if guys are not allowed to try out 12 times as well then definitely not my type of a tribe. 
Dehatan,
Please put in your serious cents!!!
I tried real hard (I did), but I just couldn’t.
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[This message has been edited by Roman (edited April 10, 2000).]
ok i like dont know bout Iran
but in arab countries Mut'a is used to get married have fun then divorce
so like thats totally a disgrace
Naikoo i wasnt talking from the point view of Islam
just think it wouldnt work
In another caste in my area, I forgot its name, i think they are julahas, the girl stays in groom's house for around three weeks before marriage is fixed (does not sleep with him. but helps family in household works) Either party can walk out of engagement if the girl or groom's family finds deal unsuitable. Sounds reasonable to me.
Wah wah Naik ji...naikeyaN aap karo aur naam Chann ka..toba toba;-)
Waise idea bura nahi hai...(too late for me though) :)
busyyy....baaki laterzzzz
CM
mein yeh kya dekh raha hooN 
..mutah is not allowed for Sunnis…
hey koi baat nahin…let’s go to war and then we can get Dhair saaree concubines 
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what is male equivalent of concumbines?
anyway.. i dont think girls need to go for war and kill or die or like to get guys.. they have smarter and more subtle ways to do it..
Dehatan Ji....Thanx for the smiles...i really adore them:)
and "..... someone who shares Basic compatibility, probably about 50-60%...?"
Nayyyy:) some ppl don't settle for less than 100%...Laughs Ok Ok thats not possible...so 99.9%...Laugh
"....While, the rest has to be cultivated and worked upon."
Itni meHnat kon kare...mitti pao ji...thro dust...smile
"... in real life yooN hota hai keya..?"
Now its time to sigh:)...Sighz
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yahaN kahaN humnafas muyassir, ay des na'aashna hei ay dil!
Wo cheez tu maangta hei mujh se ke zair-e-charkh-e-kuHan nahiN hei
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sighs :)
Hayaa must be Bz wid school...aaj kal ki bacchiyaaN:)
Nova Ji.....
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Illahi Aqal-e khajasta pe ko zara si deevaangi sikha de
Issay hei sauda-e bakhiya'kaari mujhat sar-e-paeraHn nahiN hei
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smiles
Aanchal...my sista(in islam??)...that is the point....get in to a trial one and if it wudn't work....apna apna rasta naapo;-)
Chan Ji....tussi tay jaaNde ji apna asool.."Naiki ker dariya meiN Daal" ;)
Any thing for a good friend:)
Asif....War....bus bus...hun innay vi paeRay halaat nai....;-)
ZZ...Tell me more about that tribe:)
Ok ji ppl i am moving to india....case closed...smilez
Dehatan adab..kia ap na hum ko yad kia..dilse.. :);) :):);) :)
dil..dilseee.dil to akhir dil hai na
:) Dehatan bibi, aap bulaaeyn, ham naa aaeyn...hmm...aisay to halaat nahin. ;)
hugz dehatan and naik wazzup girls...
aaah...school's getting to my head...i have 5 exams headed straight for me...a head-on collision...mairay chaaleeswain per aap khawateen zaroor tashreef ki tokri lay ker aaiyyay gaa. sniff, sniff
'tis a funny topic, or so i find it. marriage is a crazy concept...i wish i could still think of it as just lights, laughter, people, food, hugz, clothes...in all...a happy joyous little occasion that lasts forever. not :)i guess i had to wake up some day eh.
this is so not a serious thread though...a trial marriage? can someone first offer me a trial life?? so that after my first try i can just go back and say...No thank you. I want a Refund please!
you can go thru marriages...wear 'em out like shoes...finally find one that u think u can make last...and kaboom...it doesn't. nothing lasts. smiles and rubiya jee...just like babies never stay babies forever...haina? but that's a sad reality. there is a trade-off behind everything. if good things lasted...than bad things would have to last as well...some would be happy forever...some not ever...(hmmm...)
don't ask my opinions on marriage. if you feel u must conform to social norms...find someone...and stick with them. PLZ thru thick or thin...no one can be exactly as we want them to be. even we can't be what we'd like ourselves to be. why expect it from others.
shoot...library is closin' on me...gotta run..
if i find time this month...will ahem...vent some more on the topic...
Naik Larki,
Inn smiles pay mat jaaiiye...ye toa bus print meiN hee theek lagtay haiN...smile
In reality dekhiyega, toa maa-ray khauf kay, bayhosh ho jaiiyega....sad but true
I agree when you say,
"Itni meHnat kon kare...mitti pao ji...thro dust"! - Hilarious!! and smart thinking..
Lekin, since in order to succeed, we need "MeHnat" in every other walk of life,
how can we expect success, or near success, in this arena "Without" that same MeHnat..?
Hayaa!!
In case you failed to notice, the title of this thread is "...Marriage", yaani, (hopefully) happy occassion....
Aisay waqt pay, "chaaleeswain" say baat shuru karna zaroori thaa keya?!!
Accha College! Waisay college meiN, gorays, I mean ghorDays toa hongay...
Hmmm...better left in the stables...smile
Asif ji,
"...let's go to war...."
Naiki aur pooch pooch...
Our very own GupShup kay Religion, or for that matter, Politics section meiN aap kaa aana jaana naheeN hai keya?
Roman,
Very disappointing...
it seems you haven't advertised the ongoing Jang-e-Badr well enough...?
I wonder if the new GupShup environment is but the true reflection of where our socio-cultural values are heading....
http://www.al-islam.org/organizations/AalimNetwork/subject.html
Check this website regarding term and condition of MUTA’H tempary marriage.
Dear Dehatan,
I'm sorry to disappoint you, however I have never claimed to fullfil others' expectations (I may volunteerily try but...). And the war saga was just an attempt to look at things lightly, instead of, well, having few members pissed off in the end.
It seems to me that sometimes the atmosphere around here is too uptight and lacks diversity in thought (garam_masale's shooting episode is definitely an exception, check out his production). That's just personal perception, I could be way off here.
And I am sure you are quite aware of the fact the just because we take things lightly on times, we don't mean any disrespect at all.
It is really good to have you back.
Hayaaaaaaa Huggz
And where is the 2nd piece?? my one & only Cappio???Uss ko bi bahir nikalo ji:)
Hmmm u r right…it is funny topic :)it was meant to be atleast:)i was expecting some diff kinda responses…soocha tha Chan ji ki pittai ho gi danDooN se anDooN se…aur TamaaatarooN se…Sighz yea guppi hammesha meri umedooN per pani phaer detay heiN
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Aur bibi…don’t worry hum ChaleesweiN per tou nai…per aap ke walimay per zaroor aayeiN ge
Dehatan Ji…Sheeeeeeesh Don’t say that…an angelic smile that can brighten my 17" inch screen virtually…i am positive in real it can brighten the whole world…
Aur ji :)meHnat in other walk of life tou theek hei:) per seriously…meHnat to get a guy…Nayyyyyyy…Mitti hi paao…smile
Laterz Ciao
Ps. HugzSmooch**------->Dehatan & Hayaa
[This message has been edited by NaikLarki (edited April 11, 2000).]
Naik Larki....Hmmm....smile
Aisee baataiN karkay, kheeNchay chaali jaa raheeN haiN humay, apnay oarD....smile
Accha, getting serious again and your statment,
"meHnat to get a guy...Nayyyyyyy....Mitti hi paao..."
I should have been clearer, mayraa matlab was MeHnat "after" the fact.
Yaani, preferrably an arranged situation since those provide "security", BUT one based on "Basic Compatibility", or,
If our own choice, then "after" a Commitment of some sort....
However, I think I would go with you on this one and repeat,
"Mitti hi paao...", again Hilarious! laugh!
Because these days, integrity and ethics are badly lacking, therefore, better NOT indulge in this old-fashioned MeHnat biz,
lest one ends up in a "wrong" situation, wasting time and energy....
However, for a "arranged" situation, can I request for some adjustments to the "Mitti pao"....smile
As for CM ji,
HaaN, I noticed...bohot hee sharifaana jawaab daykay bhaag gaaye.
KaheeN, over the weekend, Bhaabi nay, daykchee uthaa kay toa nahee patak di sir pay - so probably recuperating from the impact...? worried
Roman,
Hmm...I hear you...
Smilez
"...Aisee baataiN karkay, kheeNchay chaali jaa raheeN haiN humay, apnay oarD....smile
Wow it is working..:)am i hoshiyaar or what
smilez
U know actually i had some more words about this smile.....:)Nayy i think i shud let u go now:)
Hmmmmmm meHnat "After" the fact is not a bad idea....
"....can I request for some adjustments to the "Mitti pao"....smile
Ok...just for u:)
Aur Chan ji ki fikkar na kijiay....wo becharay abb aa'di ho ge heiN....smilez
Rab Rakha
PS. Aap aati raha kijiay:) hum ko bi muskaranay ka bahana mill jaya kare:)
Naik Larki,
Laugh!
"Wow it is working..:)am i hoshiyaar or what"
"Hoshiyaar"...?Aisa commercial phrase..?frown
Aap hee nay toa kaha thaa kay dil say dil ki rah hotee hai..?
Aji, ye hee toa mazay ki baat hai, kay jab Dil apna kaam dikhaa ta hai, toa baaki sab kuch bekaar...sab jhoot...smile
On a serious note, when time permits, I too love to come here and gupshup with people like yourself, hayaa and few others, jin kay saath, I don't have to walk on egg shells....
Yaani, "soul mates"....smile...
Accha, I will leave now and my next sentence to you, I would like "Zafar Gorakhpuri", to do the honours,
"Tum ko jab niind na aaye to mujhe Khat likhnaa
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Jab nigaaho.n ke liye ko_ii nazaaraa na rahe
ChaaNd chhip jaaye gagan par ko_ii sahaaraa na rahe
Log ho jaayeiN paraaye to mujhe Khat likhnaa.".....smile
Salaams,
Lagta hai keh aap ka attitude to marraige is not serious. Firstly marraige is based on commitment, which it seems youre not prepared to do tabhi you came up with this nonsense concept of a "Trail Marraige" this is something that the Gora Bacha's are more popular with!!!!!
If you go into a marraige with that concept in mind!! of course it's not gonna succeed!!
Plus does Islam allow this?? I certainly think not!!
Allah-Hafiz
"Don't mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps you make a living; the other helps you make a life."
Smilez
...Soul mates
NumayaaN donooN janib shaan-e-fitrat hoti jati hei
UnheiN mujh se mujhay unn se muhabbat hoti jati hei
laugh dil ne kaam dikha hi diyasmile**
Sorry for the use of sucha commercial word:)
and seriously...its really a pleasure gupping wid u:)
Aur yeh Zafar saab bi baRe situm zareef heiN...yeni ke sharteiN lagga deiN...ke neend na aaye tou khat likna;-)
Ab ijazut chaahooN gi Chaacha ji ke es sheyr ke saath....
"Khat likheiN ge hum gerchay matlab kuch na ho
Hum tou aashiq hei aap ke naam ke"
smiles
Noshi...Welcome to the GupLand:)
Aur haaN i am Gori Gori:)
Ciao
Naik Larki,
Aray aap ki aur mayree dosti toa...telepathic dosti....smile
Because as I sat doing some paper work, achanak aap ka khayaal aaya and
that because Urdu toa aati naheeN and socha hope it's okay with you, kay I posted the verses - ghalti and all! laugh!
And lo and behold! you had a post for me...
Ye dil bhee kambakht keya cheez hai...aik baar kaheeN lag jaaye, toa baar baar usee darwaazay pay....smile
But aap say baat laterz....
Noshi,
Adaab and welcome to GupShup. Umeed hai you will have a wonderful time here! smile
Now to your post - aap koa ye kisnay bataa diya kay,
[Trail Marraige" this is something that the Gora Bacha's are more popular with!!!!!]
Hmmm...lagta hai aap apnay wattan kay "real" halaat say khaas waqif naheeN haiN....
Aaj kal wahaaN keya ho raha hai, (talking about the Divorce rate), uss kay baaray meiN kuch info rakhtee haiN bhee kay naheeN?
Maa-na, we don't use the "forbidden" and as you say "nonsense concept" of "Trial marriage",
but do you think all your Desi, or Non-Gora marriages are based on "legit" and "sincere" attitudes?
And bringing Islam into the discussion,
"Commitment" toa choarDiye, hamaree marriages meiN, toa "most" of the time,
basic "Razaamandi" bhee shamil naheeN hoti..."female" party kee...
And "silent" practice of Honor Killings and Honor killing types, which only Very recently, have won an legislation against them.....
Ye sab Islamic hai keya??
Unless, you are talking about the type of Islam we are comfortable in following,
yaani, picking the aspect that suits best our "Personal" needs/requirements/arguments and kindly ignoring the rest..
Your statement to Naik Larki,
"Lagta hai keh aap ka attitude to marraige is not serious"...
To be honest, after reading your very "narrow" perspective, on what makes or breaks a marriage, I don't think you were too serious either, when writing this post.....
By the way, this was just a discussion and not proving you wrong or saying I am right, something that you mentioned in the other thread..
I don't practice that art.....smile
[This message has been edited by Dehatan (edited April 13, 2000).]
Salaams
Thanks for welcoming me on board people. Acha ab down to the discussion.
Dehatan jee Is being sincere and committed to a marraige "NARROW THINKING"?? Somehow I think not.
Hey each to his/her own jee!!
P.S. I'll definately shall not be going for a trial marraige!!
Allah-Hafiz
"Don't mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps you make a living; the other helps you make a life."