Traffic Sense - Opinion Series

Problem statement

Lack of traffic sense amoung the people, due to which we gets into traffic jams and accidents as a direct consequence and get stress, anger and anxiety as a by product.

Reason

No civic sense taught at any educational level, we tend to give motorbikes to kids of age 10 or lesser, we have been taught that breaking laws is status symbol.
Last not least, we are always in some kind of hurry. Maybe because we lack time management skills as well.

Solution
Implement traffic and civic sense as mandatory subject from primary till graduation.
Cane the kids driving cars and motorbikes and arrest the Guardian or father and keep him in jail for atleast one night.

Above solutions shall settle the problem to certain extent

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fair point but how come this nation becomes banday ka puttar the moment it steps on the motorway?

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Agreed with this proposed solution. Though one can argue that there are many other things taught as well like, “honesty is the best policy” but still we see a lot of corruption so what’s the guarantee that teaching this will help. But I think more awareness has to be raised and the earlier stage we play this, the better it’ll be. :k:

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two reasons

  1. On Motorway or Ring Road, Motor Bikes are not allowed… hence many problems don’t have space there, 2ndly, Motorway have planned exit and entry point… not entry and exit as per the convenience of riders…

  2. 2ndly, Motorway have a different kind of police, not borrowed or groomed from the existing traffic or police system. hence implementation of law and with point number 1 in consideration, it is relatively easy…

Another discussion can be started specially after revamping and restructuring of Punjab Highway Petrol and their role in making roads and highways safer place… and with the knowledge that a new Dolphin Force is being made for safer streets in the metros… the discussion would be, is it time to take out the existing policing structure???

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Honesty Best Policy, can be taught and i would like to add let the kids learn to be hygienic and knows how to clean surroundings and its importance..

being the nation we are, i would like to take baby steps :slight_smile:

interestingly i spoke to a traffic inspector about this, and agreed, he liked the canning one, according to him, the kids and teenager are the one who are major offender and 60% cause of traffic interception and jams… followed by Lady drivers :slight_smile:

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More to the topic,

I can say that Govt should make better plans, they should do this they should do that, police should do this and police should do that… and what not, and blame SS for all the mess on the roads and blame metro bus bla bla bla… this would make me a politician… who just know how to talk and sell himself out during prime time..

We need to hit to the core of the problem, which is us, the people who use roads, I mean, Is it mandatory to have for all the protestors to block Charring Cross??? today it was blocked by two parties, interestingly they divided the square between them.. one was protesting for Burmese Muslims and others were on some task and busy eating Biryani… so didn’t know what they were about..

Is it mandatory for all Naat-Mehfils, Milaad, and these sorts of things to be done on the main road???

if you don’t allow them then they protest and if you allow them then that is nuisance for general public…

I want to focus on single point, how to create awareness for traffic, many lives are lost and people have no sense for making room or letting the ambulance pass… it seems to against their ego.. or they simply stupid.. the importance of Ambulance should be taught to driver and should be highlighted in schools and colleges and universities..

more to follow…

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It is all about implementing punishment for the crime.

Sorry to have to quote Imran khan, though he is right in this sense, but he said that all the election reforms in parliament or in court would be ‘null’ if the guilty are not punished for their crimes. Ironically, this would be true for his intraparty election commission and why proper ‘punishments’ should be carried out in light of the results.

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Motorway police is very strict in warning and issuing traffic violations ticket. If one system is working fine, city police can learn from motorway police.

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Yes lack of traffic sense is one reason but lack of accountability and overall impatient mindset are also big contributors.

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Awful lot of work needs to be done on improving the exiting road work to improve the traffic system.

Accountability! Yes, introducing ‘traffic sense’ in books sounds like a such nice and romantic ideas (as if Pakistani books don’t teach that bribe is a crime?), but do you think people in the West would hesitate to park at the wrong spots, go beyond their parking permit hours, speed drive, drink drive if it wasn’t for the system of accountability? No matter how well off you are, every Westerner fears getting a ticket! Why is that? They know if you don’t pay that small fine, not only it would double but you might end up facing the judge and it’ll go on your records! So clearly a system needs to be in place and whose responsibility is it to introduce that system? Does Pakistan has any system of ensuring people pass their driving test before getting the licence? How easy it is to get a fake driving licence in Pakistan or worst, drive without a licence without ever getting noticed? Who checks on drivers’ age restriction? So yes the key word here is - system!

In Pakistan, where politicians can get away with mass murders in broad day light, you really think a person with few bucks in his pockets cares about receiving the ‘challan’ in Pakistan for breaking a traffic rule?

I agree, Pakistan has some serious issues with disciplining the privileged class who break all the little to big rules just because they can. I was shocked to see when seemingly educated people treated breaking the signal as some kind of brave adventure. It’s so bloody dangerous you dodos. Breaking the signal should be treated as attempt to murder as you are clearly putting other(s) life at risk.

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Following on from my point about lack of system - ever wondered why some ex-pats who religiously follow traffic rules in US, UK, Dubai don’s give two hoots about breaking any traffic rules in Pakistan? So yes lack of accountability and absence of system plays a huge role.

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and then go back and talk about how uncivilized the country is?

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Following laws and regulations is considered an expression of weakness.

You can have a million laws but as long as you can get away with breaking them, nothing would change.

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OP @Hannibal question for you:
You mentioned about the highway or motorway traffic police etc but that we are talking about inter-city. But within a large city, do you think we need “traffic police” as a seperate force? There are many countries where everything is done by the regular police. Ofcourse they have advanced systems which are totally automated so that helps them as well.

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Exactly. That’s the point. No amount of awareness is going to make any difference if there is no system in place! I am pretty sure that walls of Pakistani schools are chalked with messages against bribe, injustice and inequality, but how much of such ‘awareness’ has made a difference?

Whether anyone likes it or not, investing in people’s development, introducing systems and maintaining authority is government’s job.

I do believe that a lot of local traffic issues can be sorted with coming of effective Local Government system.

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Its not simply traffic, its a greater phenomena. Overall respect for and implementation of law. Can’t be done in isolation. This greater phenomena can be overcome with education reform.

Practically, there are two things:

  1. Proper licensing and training of drivers (All, bike, riskshaw, car, vans, buses, khoti rehri). Currently, 99% of the drivers on roads have no knowledge of traffic rules/norms.

  2. Strict policing and fines etc.

While, No.2 happens on and off, nothing is done No.1. Hence, persistent probelm.

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True. People would not care about law unless breaking it would result in consequences… social or legal.

It is also us, the people, who “respect” the rich and powerful, regardless how many illegal activities they are involved in.

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we have many forces, checking papers, sometime it is army checking people entering Cantt areas, sometime it is traffic wardens, sometime it is Mujahid/Shaheen Police checking, sometime excise department… nonetheless, majority of the riders either do not have documents or license and still they ride/drive like anything… so i say this multiple force controlling is a failure… we must have one police department, for each constituency of the city and that police department should look after the traffic and law and order situation of relevant area… this way, failure or mismanagement shall be easy to point..