Torture Under Saddam

Terrible terrible stories of torture under Saddam. I hope no one ever has to endure such brutality.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/24/international/worldspecial/24MAIM.html?th

TERROR UNDER HUSSEIN
Iraqis Tell of a Reign of Torture and Maiming
By CRAIG S. SMITH

BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 23 — In the Abu Chair neighborhood on the city’s outskirts, Ali Kadhem Ghanem answers the door to his family’s house with a sheepish smile. He is a handsome man of 29, until he turns his head to reveal the monstrous approximation of an ear, like something a child might fashion out of clay.

It is the result of two attempts at reconstructive surgery to replace an ear sliced off as punishment for leaving his army unit without permission for seven days. Young men by the hundreds, he said, lost ears for deserting the military after the policy was put into effect in 1994.

Thousands of people are missing in Iraq, victims of Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship, but a more visible legacy are the parts that are missing from people who survived. Missing eyes, ears, toenails and tongues mark those who fell into the hands of Mr. Hussein’s powerful security services.

A network of Baath Party informers, intelligence service investigators, secret police operatives and the feared Fedayeen Saddam preyed on the populace to snuff out dissent before it could spread. One man encountered in Baghdad in recent days said he had his hand cut off and a cross carved in his forehead for dealing in dollars.

Many of the victims were Shiite Muslims, who make up some 60 percent of the roughly 25 million Iraqis and presented a constant potential threat to Mr. Hussein’s secular but Sunni-dominated government.

Kadhim Sabbit al-Datajji, 61, a resident of the poor Shiite neighborhood known as Saddam City under Mr. Hussein, said his trouble began when the eldest of his seven sons became old enough to join the Baath Party, but did not. “Some Baathists in the neighborhood began asking why no one in my family was a party member and saying that with so many children, my family could cause trouble,” he said. "They asked, `Why don’t you or your sons join? We think you are in an opposition party.’ "

He now has a walleyed stare to show for eight years in prison. He is quick to pop out his glass eye for a visitor — and to tell of how he lost the real one to torture.

Farris Salman is one of the last victims of Mr. Hussein’s rule. His speech is slurred because he is missing part of his tongue. Black-hooded paramilitary troops, the Fedayeen Saddam, run by Mr. Hussein’s eldest son, Uday, pulled it out of his mouth with pliers last month, he said, and sliced it off with a box cutter. They made his family and dozens of his neighbors watch.

“I thought they were going to execute me,” said Mr. Salman, sitting on the floor in his family’s small house in a run-down neighborhood of the capital a week after being freed by a frightened prison warden as Americans took control of the city. "When one of the fedayeen said they were going to cut my tongue out, I said, `No, please, just kill me.’ "

The tales of torture burn fresh in the memory, regardless of how many years have passed since the damage was done.

Mr. Datajji said he was detained for questioning after the country’s 1991 Shiite uprising. In 1994, the secret police kicked in his door and rounded up the 14 males in his extended family. All were eventually released — except for Mr. Datajji and a 24-year-old nephew. The nephew was hanged after eight months in jail.

Mr. Datajji spent over two years in a lightless, six-foot-square cell from which he was summoned for what he said were countless sessions of torture. Sometimes they hung him by his arms from behind, pulling his shoulders out of joint. Sometimes they beat him with a thick wooden club and sometimes jolted him with electricity. Sometimes, he said, they did all three. One day, they pulled out four of his toenails.

“At the beginning, I was afraid, but it became normal,” he said. “Of course you scream, but it is normal to scream.”

Some people died; he does not know why he survived.

“I can’t even imagine it now,” he said. “It’s something like watching a video for me.”

After two and a half years, he was sentenced to 15 years for sedition and moved to Baghdad’s Abu Ghraib prison, sharing a 15-foot square cell with 30 to 40 other prisoners. When cellmates fought, he said, everyone was punished with more torture.

After a few years, his right eye became swollen from so many beatings. A doctor in the prison hospital promised an operation.

“I thought they were going to fix my eye,” he said, “but when I woke up I had just one eye left. They had cut the other one out.”

Mr. Datajji was suddenly released last October as part of a general pardon declared by Mr. Hussein. He said many of the people in his cell had become insane by then, and a few did not want to leave. After he returned home, he was still required to report to the local intelligence bureau once a week. The last time he went there was two days before the war started.
“I don’t know where they are now,” he said, and laughed for the first time in two hours. “They have all vanished.”
Mr. Ghanem was drafted just after Iraq was defeated by the United States in the Persian Gulf war in 1991.
He deserted once, in 1992, and lived on the run before returning to the army in 1994 when Mr. Hussein offered amnesty to deserters. After he left again for a week to help his widowed mother, he was told that Mr. Hussein had ordered one ear lopped off all conscripts who left their units.
Doctors gave him an injection and he lost consciousness, he said. When he awoke, the right side of his head was wrapped in bandages. It was Sept. 15, 1994.
“I started crying,” Mr. Ghanem said. “I felt crippled. I felt oppressed. I hated Saddam with all of my heart, but I didn’t know what to do.”
He was sent to prison where he said he saw hundreds of others missing one ear. Many, like Mr. Ghanem, had inflamed wounds.
His mother came every Friday, selling off household appliances to buy painkillers and antibiotics for her son. Others were less fortunate. Mr. Ghanem described a medieval scene in which delirious and dying inmates lay on the prison’s dirt floor screaming from pain. “The right side of some of the men’s heads were puffed up like red balloons,” he said. Two of his friends died from infections.
Many inmates had tuberculosis, Mr. Ghanem said, and when he developed a cough in 1996 he was sent under guard to a hospital. He managed to slip into a crowd, and ran away once more.
In 1999, Mr. Hussein offered deserters amnesty again. Mr. Ghanem returned to the army, and was sent to the Jordanian border.
As war with the United States drew near this spring, he said his unit was ordered to fire on Iraqi civilians trying to flee to Jordan. When the war began, his unit simply dissolved and he went home again, this time, he hoped, for good.
“Saddam, God curse him, treated my son like an animal,” said Mr. Ghanem’s weeping mother. “Only animals have their ears cut off.”
A doctor for the fedayeen confirmed that maiming was a common form of punishment under Mr. Hussein. He said that some soldiers had their ears cut off or their limbs broken.
Mr. Salman said blurrily that his offense was cursing Mr. Hussein last December, after a brawl with a local intelligence officer who had taken away two of Mr. Salman’s uncles after a Shiite uprising in 1991.
Mr. Salman, 23, and another uncle had gone to seek information about the missing men, he said. After the brawl, which ended with a fedayeen member shooting in the air, he and his uncle fled, but returned home after 10 days on hearing a false rumor that it was safe to do so. Mr. Salman and three of his uncles were arrested within hours.
For two months, he said, the men were repeatedly tortured at a prison in the Zaiona district of the capital.
Then, on March 5, Mr. Salman was blindfolded and bundled into a van. Residents of his neighborhood say the van arrived in the afternoon with an escort of seven trucks carrying more than a hundred black-uniformed fedayeen wearing black masks that only showed their eyes.
They rounded up neighbors for what was billed as a rally; Mr. Salman’s mother was ordered to bring a picture of Mr. Hussein.
Two men held Mr. Salman’s arms and head steady, and pointed a gun to his temple. Another man with a video camera recorded the scene.
“I was standing and they told me to stick my tongue out or they would shoot me, and so I did,” Mr. Salman said. “It was too quick to be painful but there was a lot of blood.”
The fedayeen stuffed his mouth with cotton and took him to a local hospital, where he got five stitches, no painkiller and was returned to prison.
Moaed Hassan, the owner of the tea shop outside of which the deed was done, said the fedayeen officer who cut the tongue held it up to the crowd and shouted, “You see this? This will be the fate of anyone who dares insult the president.” He then threw the bit of flesh on the ground; another fedayeen officer scooped it up and said it would be given to Uday Hussein as a present.
Ten days later, after the Americans started bombing, Mr. Salman and inmates of the Zaiona prison began an odyssey around other Baghdad detention places. Eventually, last week, a frightened prison warden stopped a truck during yet another transfer, and announced he was releasing his captives.
As a final gesture, the warden insisted the prisoners clap and chant, “We sacrifice our blood and soul for Saddam.” Then the guards left. Mr. Salman and one of his uncles flagged down a car, which took them home.

these men are evil. surely noone can remotely associate this kind of inhumanity with religion, any religion.

I wonder how long it will be b 4 someone post here reminding me how evil the U.S. is , like they did when I started a similar thread? I hope that the guppies compareing the hell of war to what happened to these people b 4 the war are merely trying to spark a debate, at best.

What amazes me is that despite these atrocities committed by Saddam's regime which annihilated any and all voice of dissent, there are still people who believe the Iraqi people could have removed Saddam from power merely by exerting their so-called right of self-determination. Anyone who is not willfully blind must acknowledge that the Iraqi people were so thoroughly repressed under the Saddam regime that they had absolutely no ability whatsoever to change their leadership or their government or end the tyrannical rule of Saddam.

The stories of horror like that posted by NYA are emerging in increasing numbers daily.

Let's face it, nobody here really cares.

If it were the US there would be huge Tabloid headlines screaming TORTURE!

In the US, a Black guy has to kill a white guy to make the headlines. How many black women are killed by their husbands everyday. None gets the press coverage that Scott Peterson does....

If the US takes prisoners to Guantanamo, (complete with dental facilities mind you) it is perfectly horrible news. But Muslim on Muslim violence is as transparent and newsless as Black on Black crime....

Thanks to Ohioguy for this link posted is another thread! But, it belongs here!

http://www.indict.org.uk/witnessdetails.php?target=Qusay

Qusay Saddam Hussein

Saddam’s second son. Head of the Republican Guard. Has overall responsibility for Saddam’s security organisations.

“On that day which followed the visit of QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN to the prison, 180 prisoners were executed. The guards walked up and down the corridors calling out names. They took some prisoners from nearly every cell…when QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN visited a prison, mass executions would often follow and so we all realised what it meant when they began calling out the names of prisoners…”

"On several occasions I saw QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN walk along the row of cells, open the slot in the door and spray what I believe to be something like mustard gas into the cell…The bodies of the dead were bloated by the gas. They foamed at the mouth and were bleeding from the eyes…The prisoners were screaming. I remember one of them was only about twelve years old. I remember QUSAY shouting something like “Put this ******* in - he’s a member of the family’…The little boy was screaming. He was already bleeding from previous beatings. QUSAY killed him along with all the others…The little boy screamed out “I am sorry, I don’t want to die, I want my father.” QUSAY said, “Your father is in the cell next door”, which was true. QUSAY then proceeded to spray him with gas and he died after about ten minutes of agony. We could hear them screaming… I estimate that QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN personally murdered between 1200-1300 people during this period.”

“There was a machine designed for shredding plastic. Men were dropped into it and we were again made to watch. Sometimes they went in head first and died quickly. Sometimes they were put in feet first and died screaming. It was horrible. I saw 30 people die like this. Their remains would be placed in plastic bags and we were told they would be used as fish food… On one occasion, I saw QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN personally supervising these murders.”

“QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN went into the torture room…screaming…“I’ll put an end to you with my own hands”…[the prisoner] was brought back into the cell with his right foot covered in filthy bandages. It had been cut off during his torture…the amputation had been carried out with a power saw during his torture under the direct supervision of QUSAY SADDAM HUSSEIN…it had not been done cleanly and it had taken some time to cut the foot off.”


Qusay was a real “chip of the old block”! Having read this, and other recent accounts, I’d even support the ignorant French if they had had the cojones to put an end to this! God Bless America!

Peace To All Who Read This…

Qusay had nothing on Uday. It brings up a good question – is evil inherited or a learned trait?

Son of Saddam

… THE BUTCHER’S BOY , as he is sometimes called, is reputed to be the most brutal member of Iraq’s notorious ruling family. As an infant he reportedly played with disarmed grenades. By 10 he was accompanying his father to the torture chamber at Qasr-al-Nihayyah (the Palace of the End, where many political enemies, including deposed King Faisal II, were killed) to watch Saddam deal with dissidents. By 16 he bragged of committing his first murder, telling classmates he had killed a teacher who had upbraided him in front of a girlfriend.

For nearly 20 years Uday Hussein has been the most powerful force in Iraq’s athletic hierarchy. In 1984, when Uday was 20, Saddam handed his son the reins of both the country’s Olympic committee and its soccer federation, hoping Uday could help rebuild the spirit of the nation’s youth while also proving himself a worthy successor to his father. The Iran-Iraq war, which would drag on for eight years and lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of young Iraqis, was demoralizing Iraqi youth. Success in sports, Saddam thought, could lift their spirits and restore national pride.

“Saddam’s plan didn’t work,” says Issam Thamer al-Diwan, a former Iraqi volleyball player who now lives in the United States and carries a list of 52 athletes he claims have been murdered by the Hussein family. “Iraqi sports are worse today than ever. Our teams used to win. There was much pride in playing for your country. But Uday never understood pride, only fear. He was never an athlete. He thought he could use his father’s sadistic approach to improve performance. He has failed.”

In fact Iraq, once an Asian sports force that sent 46 athletes to the 1980 Summer Olympics, now rivals Liechtenstein in terms of athletic insignificance. Iraq sent just four athletes to the 2000 Games in Sydney. “People don’t want to play because they [are afraid] to lose,” says Sabah Mohammed, Iraq’s former national basketball coach, who fled to London in 1999 and claims that nine members of his wife’s family have been executed by the Hussein regime. “Can you blame them? No one wants to speak out against Uday.” (SI’s attempts to reach Uday for comment through the Iraqi permanent mission to the United Nations were unsuccessful.)

Uday’s penchant for violence has long been an open secret among international athletic officials. Amnesty International reported in 2001 that Uday had ordered the hand of a security officer at his Olympic headquarters to be chopped off five years earlier, after the man was accused of stealing sports equipment that was missing (but later turned up). In 1997 FIFA, the governing body of world soccer, sent two investigators to Baghdad to question members of the Iraqi national team who’d allegedly had their feet caned by Uday’s henchmen after losing a World Cup qualifying match to Kazakhstan. The investigators spoke only to people whom Uday had selected. The result: a report exonerating Uday.

“Did the torture of those players happen?” asks Sharar Haydar, a longtime Iraqi soccer star who participated in 40 international matches for the national team and was a teammate of many of the victims. "Absolutely. But when you interview athletes who are under Uday’s control, what else do you expect them to say?..

Mass graves dug up exposing summary executions:

Iraqis Dig Up Corpses in Search of the Missing
Sun April 27, 2003 07:27 AM ET
By Michael Georgy
MADAEN, Iraq (Reuters) - Iraqis heard terrifying stories about Saddam Hussein’s death squads for years but never dared ask questions. Now that he’s gone, some are digging up their country’s violent past.

Just past the once-dreaded Madaen intelligence base beside thick shrubs, men with shovels uncovered what they said were mass graves of executed civilians and renegade soldiers.

Iraqis hope to confirm what they have feared all along – that Saddam’s agents killed hundreds, if not thousands, of their relatives, friends and neighbors and then hastily buried them.

As workers turned over mounds of dirt, residents of Madaen, just south of Baghdad, looked for clues; a bone, a sandal, some clothes.

Suddenly the remains of a hand appeared, protruding from the moist sleeve of a civilian shirt. People covered their noses as the stench of rotting flesh filled the air.

“I think they were killed recently. It is hard to say who these people are. They have no identification cards. We want to show the crimes of Saddam,” Awfa Yassim, 23, told Reuters.

They have been digging for days. Workers found what appeared to be a soldier’s corpse a few days ago. They said he was shot through the back of the head.

“We think there are over 50 bodies here. Dogs dup up the area,” said Waleed Faisal, a teacher who has been using a tractor to look for bodies.

Mass graves have been discovered in other parts of Iraq, including the north where most of the country’s Kurds live. The Kurds suffered harsh oppression under Saddam.

It was not easy for the people of Madaen to dig up the dead, something that is frowned upon by Islam. But they persuaded the local cleric that doing so would provide evidence of Saddam’s crimes and help come to terms with the past.

SECRET CENTER

Civilians were strictly barred from the intelligence headquarters area, which locals say was also used as a training ground for guerrilla fighters.

Facilities included obstacle courses and a large aircraft, which appears to have been used to train would-be plane hijackers.

“If you even drove your car in front of the gates and had to turn around for some reason the guards would arrest you. If you were foreign then you just said goodbye to life. If you were Iraqi you would be sent to an underground prison,” local resident Sadiq Jassim said.

As workers kept digging, a group of men cursed Saddam. One engineer complained Iraqis had been banned from listening to foreign radio stations.

“My daughters were told in school that their parents should not listen to foreign radio. It was as if they were spying on their own home,” he said.

Another man from the Shi’ite community repressed under Saddam said his cousin had been executed.

“Killing was the easiest thing for Saddam. If your relative was killed you were then banned from traveling,” said Ali, 36.

The people of Madaen may never know who was buried in the suspected mass grave site – the only evidence dug up so far is a few bones, civilian clothes and pyjamas and some sandals.

But they seem more concerned that the world should know how much they suffered under Saddam, who disappeared after U.S. troops defeated his army in the three-week war that began on March 20.

Some Iraqis will not be able to bury decades of fear while Saddam’s fate remains a mystery.

“We are still scared of him. I try to stay home because if I talk to people and say bad things about Saddam he could come back and slit my throat,” said one man who asked not to be named.
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=JEKVBDGYYP214CRBAE0CFFA?type=focusIraqNews&storyID=2636732

180 people were kidnapped in Uganda the other day. I would ask you to cry for them also but it seems these stories of Iraqi suffering are only being used to further an argument.

Ah the beauty of this. Saddam was a mad and evil man. We never denied it. He openly said he was a *******. We wanted him gone when the US supported him and gave him chemical weapons. We wanted him gone during the gulf war. When the US first called for an uprising but then let people get butchered. Then for 10 years you guys sat on your hands, with all this information :rolleyes: about his WMD and only now after he is gone you try to defend your illogical and costly war by information that everybody already knew.

You want to justify his removal? Find the damn weapons.

What baffles me is that when the US was sponsoring Saddam, the brutalities were still in operation and not eyelid was lifted.

Approximately 20 years down the line, after he no longer serves the US interest he becomes a tyrrant all of a sudden!

Did it take the US and others 20 years to catch on to what he was doing, or did it take 20 years or so to oust him?

Either way, what a track record for the US!

Thanx for the information, but that was all common knowledge to us folks a couple a decade ago. No one heard us back then. Where were all the sympathisers then?

There were those that died at the hands of saddam, those who died from US imposed sanctions and those who died from 'made in USA' missiles that landed on top of them. Tell me whats the difference?

Save your crocodile tears for a rainy day.