Toronto set for citywide Wi-Fi zone

So how good is this news for us? I would definitly change from monopolist Rogers to city network if it has same quality and speed.

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&call_pageid=971358637177&c=Article&cid=1141771813894

Toronto set for citywide Wi-Fi zone

Canada’s mobile-phone giants will be on alert today as Toronto Hydro Corp. details how it plans to turn the country’s largest municipality into a massive wireless hotspot, similar to ambitious projects already underway in cities such as Philadelphia and San Francisco.
By blanketing Toronto with the same Wi-Fi networking technology already found in many homes and small businesses, Toronto Hydro will go head to head against Bell Mobility, Rogers Wireless and Telus Mobility for a piece of the $8 billion Canadian wireless market.
“I’m dazzled by the possibility,” said Rob Hyndman, a Toronto-based technology lawyer and Wi-Fi enthusiast who believes the added competition will be a boon for tourism, local businesses and the city’s reputation. “It’s an important demonstration of how serious Toronto is about being a desirable destination for business.”
Sources said the citywide hotspot could be available in the downtown core as early as September, letting anyone with a properly equipped laptop or handheld device gain high-speed Internet access while sitting on a park bench, parked in a car or even holed up at home.
Mayor David Miller is expected to join Toronto Hydro executives to announce details of the initiative, which will be the largest of its kind ever undertaken in Canada.
So-called municipal Wi-Fi makes broadband access virtually ubiquitous and gives municipalities a way of generating revenue while offering affordable high-speed Internet access to low-income individuals and neighbourhoods.
But Michael Lee, chief strategy officer for Toronto-based Rogers Communications Inc., parent of Canada’s biggest mobile-phone company, isn’t convinced it makes sense for a municipal utility to sell broadband access.
“Running a network to deliver electricity and running a network to deliver Internet protocol to customers are really two different things,” Lee said. The cost of building a Wi-Fi network may seem “tantalizingly low,” but the ongoing billing, marketing, maintenance and customer support costs are often underestimated.
“Should a utility use taxpayers’ dollars to experiment on whether this is a good business opportunity? We’ll see how customers respond.”
Officials of Bell and Telus would not comment until the details and pricing of Toronto Hydro’s plan are revealed. But industry insiders said all three companies are keeping a close eye on the announcement, which could threaten their own Wi-Fi programs and undercut next-generation mobile data services based on high-speed standards EVDO (short for evolution data optimized) and HSDPA (high-speed downlink packet access).
Sources said Toronto Hydro is entering the wireless broadband business after deciding to put the Wi-Fi infrastructure in place to support its mandated deployment of smart meters, which require two-way communications to transmit customer data for time-of-day billing.
Brian Sharwood, a telecom analyst with Seaboard Group in Toronto, said it makes sense for a utility to sell high-speed wireless access if it helps recoup the cost of supporting smart meters.
“In a way, that’s the excuse to do all of this,” he said. “You’re going to run it past a lot of people anyway.”
Toronto Hydro is expected to install the necessary wireless transmitters and receivers for 18,000 streetlights and poles purchased last year from the city for $60 million. Equip enough of them and you create a net of overlapping wireless networks across the city — what the industry describes as “mesh networking.”
A similar approach is being taken in Philadelphia, which is using 4,000 streetlight posts to set up its municipal hotspot. But Philadelphia decided to partner with Internet service provider EarthLink, which is paying the city about $300,000 US a year to lease the posts and giving the city 5 per cent of all subscription revenues.
Philadelphia plans to use that money to provide 10,000 computers and training for low-income householders and children. Most citizens will be charged $20 or less to access the service, but EarthLink has promised to offer $9.95 subscriptions to less privileged groups.
It’s unclear whether Toronto Hydro will release pricing today. Hyndman, who is also chairman of a not-for-profit organization called Accommodation, Information and Support Inc. that provides housing for people in need, said he’s hoping Toronto will emulate Philadelphia’s deals and programs for the less fortunate.
“Giving people access to something like that would be very powerful,” he said. “This is the kind of thing that could make it affordable.”
Hundreds of cities and towns in North America are believed to have embraced municipal Wi-Fi projects to varying degrees. In Ontario, utilities in Hamilton and Sault Ste. Marie are pursuing Wi-Fi strategies to support smart-meter programs. Fredericton and Ottawa are among those that have deployed such networks.
Lee said none of these initiatives has so far given Rogers a reason to worry. Pointing to Fredericton, where the entire downtown is meshed with Wi-Fi, the impact is hardly noticed.
“We don’t look at our numbers in Fredericton and say, ‘Oh my god! This is a precursor of something we should be concerned about.’
“And we watch those numbers pretty closely,” he said

Re: Toronto set for citywide Wi-Fi zone

Oh God. Lord knows we're already bombarded with enough electromagnetic radiation, last thing I want is EVEN MORE!!!

Maybe I should switch to cooking with ghee instead of olive oil so that I get the heart attack before all the radiation gives me cancer....

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cool !

so now sharjeel can sneak on my doorstep and still msn’ing me, eventually saying ok now open door, i am outside..

:hmmm: on the other hand, its gonna be QUITE an experience to be always on :k:

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I never cease to be amazed by the development in Toronto whenever I visit. Many American cities could learn quite a bit about infrastructure from here. Congratulations and enjoy being always connected!

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Or, he could sneak up on your doorstep, use your wireless LAN to go on msn, eventually saying ok now open door, i am outside..

Hmm i've been using internet access on the streets for quite a while now. Most busy areas have atleast a few people stupid enough to set up unsecured wiressless LANs. :p

By the way the wifi service in toronto currently covers a 6 km radius in downtown and will expand gradually. Its free for the first six months after which there is a charge.

Sincerely,
Captain Lota

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hehehehehhehe

khair, my access is unsecured and not encrypted...

if u can find it when u visit and login to my network, then u DEFINITELY deserve free internet :D

possibilities would be unlimited.. people who are stuck in traffic like buses, can start meetings and be online to not miss the details..

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Sounds good to me! :party:

Can’t wait for this plan to be implemented. :balley:

Btw… I didn’t read it all. How soon will it be put into action? :bobo:

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Definitely...can't wait to get this around GTA.

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It will start in downtown Toronto in June 2006 and slowly they will start to expand it in GTA.

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Good stuff! :biggthumb

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Can someone tell me what that means and how it will affect me.

Lost African

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You get to take your laptop with wireless connectivity and surf the net anywhere in the city for free.

I can charge you a one time low fee of $250 to teach you how it all works. This offer is only limited to Lost Africans.

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i heared this 2 but let's hope it's not too expensive!!

san fransisco is lucky coz google started wi-fi service for free!!

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I was under the impression that it would be for free. :\

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Interesting. I hope the costs aren't high. Otherwise, its better to have non-wireless and better being tangled with wires rather than bills. *sigh

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yeah ..i heard about this ..
well as it gets popular the costs will eventually start to go down. just don't subscribe when it first comes out...wait for two weeks, because by then some new technology will have replaced it :D

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Its free for the first 6 months. Enough to get everyone hooked. After that they start digging in your pockets. Good for people on the subway or in the bus etc.

As for drivers stuck in traffic. Woudnt it be kind of dangerous using their laptops while driving? Last i heard cellphones were being outlawed on the road, so what makes laptops any safer?

Sincerely,
Captain Lota

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^ that'd be crazy, huh? drivin' down the 401 and you see the guy beside you using his laptop too ...
where will the madness end? :p

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Toronto? I would expect something like this in Dubai.

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Here is the actual Web site of company providing the connection.
http://www.thtelecom.ca/index.html